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..who'd want to be one today? What have they to look forward to ???
(1) A chance of the first step on the housing ladder in London? No foo king chance! (2) University education subsidised by the state like in the good old 80's? Sorry, minimum of 30k for 3 years for you or your parents to have hanging over your head for years to pay back eventually. (3) Imminent elderly nursing home explosion..who's going to pay for it?..the kids of course! (4) Pensions to start at 70. and now the absolute tin lid killer from George Osborne: (5) An 8 hour school-day! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/georgeosborne/12195132/Budget-2016-Geor
What with all the stress I can't see them getting any skinnier. Taking comfort refuge in their mobiles,fizzy drinks and cake and burgers very understandable.
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'I'm 18 with a bullet.Got my finger on the trigger,I'm gonna pull it.."
Love,Peace and Fook Chelski!
More like 20StoneOfHoop now.
Let's face it I'm not getting any thinner.
Pass the cake and pies please.
I like London, wouldn't come over so often otherwise, three games Sept / Oct, now Brentford and Preston...but, my area is not my area anymore, so. Don't really know what it's like for the young kids, hope they're having as good a time as I had, fcuking great laugh in the 70's.
Lost count of how many times I have returned to London/UK from living overseas and the only real solace I think I can offer, is that much of what is said above, is the same as I have experienced all around the planet.
If you haven't read Orwell's '1984' or 'Animal Farm' for that matter, the unerring accuracy of his predictions is chillingly obvious for all to see on a daily basis. How life is imitating art is also fascinating - if you've seen the existence envisioned by Fritz Lang in his 1927 film 'Metropolis', its uncanny.
Yesterday the news carried a piece about an AI machine trouncing the human world champion of some Chinese board game. That alone should ring alarm bells about the rise of the machines!
Kids today, don't envy them at all!
For those interested in Orwell I really recommend Isaac Deutscher's essay '1984 - The Mysticism of Cruelty'.
Deutscher knew Orwell as they worked at The Observer together. '1984' was based on a much earlier novel - Yevgeny Zamyatin's 'We' (written in 1921) which Deutscher discusses in the essay. Deutscher also discusses the vexed question of whether Orwell was a socialist. If you read the anecdote about Yalta at the end of the essay you will see that Orwell was not distinguished by any great historical foresight.
My God, you lot sound old. It was always better when the older generation were kids, FFS.
None of us have any idea whether kids today are happier than we were because we can neither read their minds or remember our youthful ones.
I had a fcking great time and it's hard to top. I suspect they will have a better time. Yes the violence was absurd, it could be hard to make a pound, but you had a chance and you took it. They will too.
Just dont tell them there are long beaches, wild women, cheap booze and a far better standard of living elsewhere or the place will implode with the universe hot on its tails.
I don't see why our golden years should be consumed by work. We're human beings FFS, not robots.
Not to mention that robots (and other scientific advances) have the potential to vastly increase productivity, and free human beings from routine tasks. Given that, the real question is why are living standards not rising while people work less?
Kids don't know any better. They're happy. One thing I've noticed about kids programs though is how adult the content is these days. Having watched a fair bit recently it dawned on me that cartoons like Adventure time is really just for stoned students or people into the occult. The American trash programs have kids trying to organise house party's and getting girlfriends or boyfriends at the age of 11 ffs. I hope I don't sound like Mary Whitehouse or something but kids tv has somehow lost its innocence a bit.Its definitely not as good as it was. Phineas and Ferb is my favourite.
Punter (age 39 )
Having said that my kids just watch youtube mostly.
My God, you lot sound old. It was always better when the older generation were kids, FFS.
None of us have any idea whether kids today are happier than we were because we can neither read their minds or remember our youthful ones.
Well said, Brian.
I'm sure kids today aren't too disappointed to have Xbox, Playstation etc and opportunities for them to have a kiss & a cuddle must be better than ever with the like of Tinder etc. Swings and roundabouts.
Let's just hope the kids of today are more socially and environmentally responsible than their parents e.g. restrict themselves to none or one child, and look after the environment and other living creatures on this planet. If they're as selfish and irresponsible as the older generations then they really are fcuked I would say
Let's just hope the kids of today are more socially and environmentally responsible than their parents e.g. restrict themselves to none or one child, and look after the environment and other living creatures on this planet. If they're as selfish and irresponsible as the older generations then they really are fcuked I would say
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Give it a rest for fúcks sake
favourite cheese mature Cheddar. FFS there is no such thing as the EPL
My partner and I discussed it and we probably won't have kids.
The baby boomers have ruined everything for everyone. And then they have the audacity to tell us we're doing things wrong. We are what you made us mate.
The tech revolution instead of making us free is being used to crush us all, tearing away all our rights and protections, making us scramble around in the dust for peanuts while our malevolent overlords call us low achievers for daring to ask questions, or abuse each other so that we never look up to see who actually holds the yoke over us.
My partner and I discussed it and we probably won't have kids.
The baby boomers have ruined everything for everyone. And then they have the audacity to tell us we're doing things wrong. We are what you made us mate.
The tech revolution instead of making us free is being used to crush us all, tearing away all our rights and protections, making us scramble around in the dust for peanuts while our malevolent overlords call us low achievers for daring to ask questions, or abuse each other so that we never look up to see who actually holds the yoke over us.
I'm so depressed
Jeez, fellas, that's the first time I've seen one of them with self-awareness. It's like something out of Asimov. We better kill him before he infects the others and causes unrest.
Let's just hope the kids of today are more socially and environmentally responsible than their parents e.g. restrict themselves to none or one child, and look after the environment and other living creatures on this planet. If they're as selfish and irresponsible as the older generations then they really are fcuked I would say
[Post edited 15 Apr 2016 10:56]
I'll bite.
Having 11 billion people on the planet and a clean environment are compatible.
My partner and I discussed it and we probably won't have kids.
The baby boomers have ruined everything for everyone. And then they have the audacity to tell us we're doing things wrong. We are what you made us mate.
The tech revolution instead of making us free is being used to crush us all, tearing away all our rights and protections, making us scramble around in the dust for peanuts while our malevolent overlords call us low achievers for daring to ask questions, or abuse each other so that we never look up to see who actually holds the yoke over us.
Having 11 billion people on the planet and a clean environment are compatible.
And you could be absolutely right (although, for what it's worth, I disagree). However, if the kids now are more responsible then you never know I suppose.
I do, however, seriously doubt that if there were 11 billion people then there will be room for many of the other creatures we share this planet with (and who have just as much right to live here as we do). I mean, we're wiping them out at a pace never seen before and we're currently at 7.5 billion or something. Why does there have to be 11 billion of us anyway? Less is more for all concerned surely?
My partner and I discussed it and we probably won't have kids.
The baby boomers have ruined everything for everyone. And then they have the audacity to tell us we're doing things wrong. We are what you made us mate.
The tech revolution instead of making us free is being used to crush us all, tearing away all our rights and protections, making us scramble around in the dust for peanuts while our malevolent overlords call us low achievers for daring to ask questions, or abuse each other so that we never look up to see who actually holds the yoke over us.
I'm so depressed
Cheer up having kids is great.
Besides with your rugby background within a few years you will be at mini rugby and dragged into coaching them etc. You get to take them to LR for the first time (take them young enough and they think its enormous).
Yes they will have to put up with 70 yrs of the Rs letting you down at crucial moments but even that teaches you valuable life skills.
Besides when you are old you will have someone to help you choose which old age torment centre you go and live in.
And you could be absolutely right (although, for what it's worth, I disagree). However, if the kids now are more responsible then you never know I suppose.
I do, however, seriously doubt that if there were 11 billion people then there will be room for many of the other creatures we share this planet with (and who have just as much right to live here as we do). I mean, we're wiping them out at a pace never seen before and we're currently at 7.5 billion or something. Why does there have to be 11 billion of us anyway? Less is more for all concerned surely?
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World growth rates are shrinking rapidly.
Not taking into account any unknown unknowns, we are heading in the right direction.
Not taking into account any unknown unknowns, we are heading in the right direction.
Cheer up mate.
If that's right then fair enough it adds a bit of light to the end of the tunnel and cheered me up a bit (just a bit mind!!). Hope it isn;t all too late. The animal world is being decimated at the moment and shows no sign of abating as the human population goes out of all control. Fcuk it, time for a
I don't see why our golden years should be consumed by work. We're human beings FFS, not robots.
Well it is just Economics really. If you are going to have a longer retirement you have to pay for it. So we work longer but retire for longer as we are living longer.
I try not to think of retirement as my golden years, I could get run over on the way home.
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