| Lacking an attacking threat 16:56 - Sep 30 with 12694 views | Jackfath |
Disappointing to give the game away again in the 90th minute.
Let’s hope we can muster some attacking prowess in our next game. Lots of time to get better at this aspect. |  |
| |  |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 23:30 - Sep 30 with 5258 views | thornabyswan |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 20:08 - Sep 30 by A_Fans_Dad |
If you had watched the u23 game there would only be one choice for the other winger and that is Dan James, he his head and shoulders above Nathan, who by the way is one of my favourite players and I know he is coming back from Injury.
James is quicker, nimbler, great in one/twos, crosses and puts the ball in the back of the net.
They both scored 2, Nathan in about 70 minutes and James in 10.
As an impact player he would do what Montero did in his first Season here, he would become a foul magnet due to his speed.
But the lad can't even get a chance in a Cup match. |
I have not watched any under 23 games.
But why did Shrewsbury send him back.
Did he have a bad injury then |  |
| |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 09:28 - Oct 1 with 5175 views | swan65split |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 22:53 - Sep 30 by ZZoric |
knock urself out - what wld u do ? |
feck u off for one.  |  | | |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 09:31 - Oct 1 with 5173 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 19:49 - Sep 30 by costalotta |
Clement knows this IMO which is why he sets us up in such a manner.
He's gone about things in the right manner from the perspective of making us hard to beat. the thing is if we don't create we are unlikely to score where as the opposition only need 1.
Did we deserve a draw today? arguably yes but they, for as poor as they were still created more and better chances than our none. We never looked like scoring did we.
We had the opportunity in the summer to do this but failed miserably, again. This is not PCs fault per se as we all know how it works at our club. But if the performances & results continue he is the one who will take the bullet. If that happens then the owners will need to look at themselves and until they do it will be the same again.
Last year Huw claimed the summer transfer window was a success. Yet our marquee signing sent packing on loan a year later. This year the same and we continue to waste millions upon millions. What happened to our scouting players for 2 years ensuring they have the attributes important to our club so that the fit in immediately? |
No but he did the same at Derby and they had one of the strongest squads in the Championship. It's the style of play which he feels comfortable with. If you are getting points you get away with it, as soon as it starts going south it stands out like a sore thumb. |  | | |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 11:14 - Oct 1 with 5147 views | jack2jack |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 23:04 - Sep 30 by TheResurrection |
Woah, he's nowhere near ready, not even for League 2.
Jesus!!!! |
Saw him a few times last season he's quick,but I don't think we can be asking a young lad to step up to the PL,to save our bacon so to speak.
I know it's all about blooding players but not now.
Anyway PC doesn't play with out and out wingers,not yet anyway. |  | | |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 11:28 - Oct 1 with 5136 views | costalotta |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 09:31 - Oct 1 by 34dfgdf54 |
No but he did the same at Derby and they had one of the strongest squads in the Championship. It's the style of play which he feels comfortable with. If you are getting points you get away with it, as soon as it starts going south it stands out like a sore thumb. |
Well if that is the case he will be gone soon enough as we're not getting the points (plural). The EPL is unforgiving and the odd draw will not be good enough.
We've had a favourable set of fixtures to open the season. We've not capitalised on that so he's already playing catch up to a certain degree. West Ham, Newcastle should have be teams were looking to get points off given the same their in. To a certain degree we should really be getting at least a point at home to Watford. The problem is, we just don't look like we have a win in us.
As for the work in progress comment, if it stops at making us solid then all the goodwill he gained at the back end of last season will evaporate, if it hasn't already.
We need results, he needs results. If not we will have a Brian Kidd moment/season. |  | | |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 11:50 - Oct 1 with 5117 views | donkonky |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 20:08 - Sep 30 by A_Fans_Dad |
If you had watched the u23 game there would only be one choice for the other winger and that is Dan James, he his head and shoulders above Nathan, who by the way is one of my favourite players and I know he is coming back from Injury.
James is quicker, nimbler, great in one/twos, crosses and puts the ball in the back of the net.
They both scored 2, Nathan in about 70 minutes and James in 10.
As an impact player he would do what Montero did in his first Season here, he would become a foul magnet due to his speed.
But the lad can't even get a chance in a Cup match. |
Agreed. Not much point in investing in U 23 program if they are not given the chance to push on. Just think if Ben Davies or Joe were involved in the current set up! Theyd soon be washed up broken lower league players. GIve em a go...nothing to lose but hell of a lot to gain. |  | | |
| Lacking an attacking threat (n/t) on 11:59 - Oct 1 with 5102 views | FlyingSwan77 |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 19:57 - Sep 30 by londonlisa2001 |
But even the first half was really not great. We showed some (relatively) nice touches and found some space between the lines, but we created nothing of note. And West Ham were really awful as well.
What would I do now? I've no idea to be frank. I think we simply lack quality throughout the squad.
We have no pace, no spark, no movement. Just a bunch of average midfield players who are indistinguishable in their mediocrity. You can get away with one or two acting as water carriers for talent around them, but they're all water carriers and there is no talent around them. We are definitely better with Leon on the pitch, that's for sure. And that is an awful indictment.
To be honest, I'd be tempted to revert back to 4231, play Mesa and Leon or Mesa and Ki as the '2', play Ayew at '10' (Fer is not good enough) or possibly Ki if Leon can play one of the holding players, and try any 2 of Narsingh, Dyer, Routs, James wide with Bony up front.
I wouldn't bother with Carroll, Fer, Clucas or (for the time being at least), Sanches. |
|  | | |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 12:01 - Oct 1 with 5097 views | FlyingSwan77 |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 19:57 - Sep 30 by londonlisa2001 |
But even the first half was really not great. We showed some (relatively) nice touches and found some space between the lines, but we created nothing of note. And West Ham were really awful as well.
What would I do now? I've no idea to be frank. I think we simply lack quality throughout the squad.
We have no pace, no spark, no movement. Just a bunch of average midfield players who are indistinguishable in their mediocrity. You can get away with one or two acting as water carriers for talent around them, but they're all water carriers and there is no talent around them. We are definitely better with Leon on the pitch, that's for sure. And that is an awful indictment.
To be honest, I'd be tempted to revert back to 4231, play Mesa and Leon or Mesa and Ki as the '2', play Ayew at '10' (Fer is not good enough) or possibly Ki if Leon can play one of the holding players, and try any 2 of Narsingh, Dyer, Routs, James wide with Bony up front.
I wouldn't bother with Carroll, Fer, Clucas or (for the time being at least), Sanches. |
This is all sense.
One top post... | | | |
Login to get fewer ads
| Lacking an attacking threat on 13:18 - Oct 1 with 5040 views | monmouth |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 12:01 - Oct 1 by FlyingSwan77 |
This is all sense.
One top post... |
It says something that not bothering with 'talent' that has probably cost us £30m plus wages makes sense. |  |
| |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 13:29 - Oct 1 with 5028 views | GeoffThom |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 22:15 - Sep 30 by TheResurrection |
So by some bizarre fackforward flipping bullshit rationale, West Ham were now the better side because they, at home, had some half chances.
Fack me, Georgie Bingham cum LisaLondon cum Tony Facking Gale cum what??
We are missing something, that's clear, but using your example for whatever point you're trying to prove is bonkers.
Overall, we were the better side today. At the end of the first half we were streets ahead. And this with Tammy a passenger. We could have played a 5th midfielder and arguably been more threatening.
Our squad is good, much better than last season. But the tactics are weak,
ps you've got an iPhone 9, clearly! |
You really really believe this squad is better than last year ,feck me the drugs really have left their mark on you 😂😂😂😂😂😂 |  | | |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 13:29 - Oct 1 with 5027 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 13:18 - Oct 1 by monmouth |
It says something that not bothering with 'talent' that has probably cost us £30m plus wages makes sense. |
I honestly believe that Clucas is a stats / moneyball / whatever you want to call it, signing.
I think he's a nice player - I said so when we signed him. I also said that I really hoped he wasn't as good as it was going to get, but it was. And that's the issue.
The problem in the window wasn't selling Siggy and Llorente - we had to sell Siggy for the price which was ridiculous, and we had to sell Llorente when he refused to sign a new contract as we can't afford to (effectively) spend £12m on a loan for a season.
But it was an opportunity to really build the squad. That, together with the enormous saving in wages this year, and the shipping out of Barrow, Gomis, Cork, Kingsley etc for money, meant that we could really build fresh. Mesa was a good start to that as the long term replacement for Leon. It also made sense bringing in Tammy on loan, as we have Baston out on loan, so we could consider again next summer what to do.
But then we brought in no full backs, a utility midfielder (when we already had Ki, and Fer, and Carroll, and Fulton) and sod all creativity. People were enthused for some reason by the return of Bony (a wonderful player the first time round, but honestly - is that as good as we can get now for £12m?) and were seduced into believing that the window was good by Sanches.
Before we sold Llorente, Clement said we needed two attacking players. Assuming Bony was a straight swap for Llorente, that still left us needing two, and we bought none.
And that's the problem. Oh, and we still have no full back cover. | | | |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 13:35 - Oct 1 with 5020 views | monmouth |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 13:29 - Oct 1 by londonlisa2001 |
I honestly believe that Clucas is a stats / moneyball / whatever you want to call it, signing.
I think he's a nice player - I said so when we signed him. I also said that I really hoped he wasn't as good as it was going to get, but it was. And that's the issue.
The problem in the window wasn't selling Siggy and Llorente - we had to sell Siggy for the price which was ridiculous, and we had to sell Llorente when he refused to sign a new contract as we can't afford to (effectively) spend £12m on a loan for a season.
But it was an opportunity to really build the squad. That, together with the enormous saving in wages this year, and the shipping out of Barrow, Gomis, Cork, Kingsley etc for money, meant that we could really build fresh. Mesa was a good start to that as the long term replacement for Leon. It also made sense bringing in Tammy on loan, as we have Baston out on loan, so we could consider again next summer what to do.
But then we brought in no full backs, a utility midfielder (when we already had Ki, and Fer, and Carroll, and Fulton) and sod all creativity. People were enthused for some reason by the return of Bony (a wonderful player the first time round, but honestly - is that as good as we can get now for £12m?) and were seduced into believing that the window was good by Sanches.
Before we sold Llorente, Clement said we needed two attacking players. Assuming Bony was a straight swap for Llorente, that still left us needing two, and we bought none.
And that's the problem. Oh, and we still have no full back cover. |
Lisa, I'm depressed enough mun. | |
| |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 13:36 - Oct 1 with 5017 views | GeoffThom |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 13:29 - Oct 1 by londonlisa2001 |
I honestly believe that Clucas is a stats / moneyball / whatever you want to call it, signing.
I think he's a nice player - I said so when we signed him. I also said that I really hoped he wasn't as good as it was going to get, but it was. And that's the issue.
The problem in the window wasn't selling Siggy and Llorente - we had to sell Siggy for the price which was ridiculous, and we had to sell Llorente when he refused to sign a new contract as we can't afford to (effectively) spend £12m on a loan for a season.
But it was an opportunity to really build the squad. That, together with the enormous saving in wages this year, and the shipping out of Barrow, Gomis, Cork, Kingsley etc for money, meant that we could really build fresh. Mesa was a good start to that as the long term replacement for Leon. It also made sense bringing in Tammy on loan, as we have Baston out on loan, so we could consider again next summer what to do.
But then we brought in no full backs, a utility midfielder (when we already had Ki, and Fer, and Carroll, and Fulton) and sod all creativity. People were enthused for some reason by the return of Bony (a wonderful player the first time round, but honestly - is that as good as we can get now for £12m?) and were seduced into believing that the window was good by Sanches.
Before we sold Llorente, Clement said we needed two attacking players. Assuming Bony was a straight swap for Llorente, that still left us needing two, and we bought none.
And that's the problem. Oh, and we still have no full back cover. |
You just blew yourself out of the water with the first part concerning llorente,of course we should have kept him for 12m if it meant us staying up to recoup 100m so your statement on that makes no sense ad for Tammy ,he's going to be good but not yet and not now he's like bambi on ice with stupid flicks that aren't coming off we needed to keep llorente and should have told him he was staying to see out his contract | | | |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 13:39 - Oct 1 with 5009 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 22:15 - Sep 30 by TheResurrection |
So by some bizarre fackforward flipping bullshit rationale, West Ham were now the better side because they, at home, had some half chances.
Fack me, Georgie Bingham cum LisaLondon cum Tony Facking Gale cum what??
We are missing something, that's clear, but using your example for whatever point you're trying to prove is bonkers.
Overall, we were the better side today. At the end of the first half we were streets ahead. And this with Tammy a passenger. We could have played a 5th midfielder and arguably been more threatening.
Our squad is good, much better than last season. But the tactics are weak,
ps you've got an iPhone 9, clearly! |
I didn't say they were the better side. I said it's false to bang on that we were.
Because we created absolutely nothing. We weren't streets ahead in the first half. We just weren't as sodding useless as we were last week in the first half and yesterday in the second half. Is that how low our standards are slipping?
I'm never one who thinks we have a God given right to beat anyone, let alone West Ham at their place, but we used to give it a go Chris. Not meekly hope that we can drag a point out of these matches. If we lose, so be it. It's what it is. But it's not about that. It's about desire, and trying things, and taking teams on, and creating things which may or may not come off.
We are like watching paint dry. | | | |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 13:44 - Oct 1 with 4998 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 13:36 - Oct 1 by GeoffThom |
You just blew yourself out of the water with the first part concerning llorente,of course we should have kept him for 12m if it meant us staying up to recoup 100m so your statement on that makes no sense ad for Tammy ,he's going to be good but not yet and not now he's like bambi on ice with stupid flicks that aren't coming off we needed to keep llorente and should have told him he was staying to see out his contract |
We can't afford to pay a £12m loan fee.
We could have found a great replacement for him at that sort of money (or some more - we had £40m plus from Siggy, we could have paid £20m or £25m for the right replacement).
Tammy isn't playing great at the moment, I just said that loaning a replacement for Baston who is only on loan makes sense. | | | |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 13:45 - Oct 1 with 4990 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 13:35 - Oct 1 by monmouth |
Lisa, I'm depressed enough mun. |
We've got to go back to 4231 Mon. Let's have a go for God's sake. | | | |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 14:14 - Oct 1 with 4942 views | whoflungdung |
And this is what upsets me more than anything.
Great post Lisa,really it's as it is .
We ve bought players in for big money only to decide they re no good.
Baston is greatest example of this | |
| |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 20:00 - Oct 1 with 4886 views | GeoffThom |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 13:44 - Oct 1 by londonlisa2001 |
We can't afford to pay a £12m loan fee.
We could have found a great replacement for him at that sort of money (or some more - we had £40m plus from Siggy, we could have paid £20m or £25m for the right replacement).
Tammy isn't playing great at the moment, I just said that loaning a replacement for Baston who is only on loan makes sense. |
You say we can't afford a 12 m loan fee ,hmmmm I'd love to know how much we're paying loan fees at the moment I bet it's that and maybe more ? | | | |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 20:06 - Oct 1 with 4885 views | bonymine |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 14:14 - Oct 1 by whoflungdung |
And this is what upsets me more than anything.
Great post Lisa,really it's as it is .
We ve bought players in for big money only to decide they re no good.
Baston is greatest example of this |
Jenkins' fault again maybe he's done a deal with the 'Spanish builders' for his Marbella villa ???!!! |  |
| |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 20:46 - Oct 1 with 4834 views | Highjack |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 17:03 - Sep 30 by magicdaps10 |
We need to go back to wingers to give us any chance.
I fear that it is going to be a tough season for sure but we are terrible at the moment. |
We haven't got any wingers. |  |
| |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 20:54 - Oct 1 with 4825 views | trampie |
| Lacking an attacking threat on 17:03 - Sep 30 by magicdaps10 |
We need to go back to wingers to give us any chance.
I fear that it is going to be a tough season for sure but we are terrible at the moment. |
Wingers out of fashion these days. |  |
| |
| |
By continuing to use the site, you agree to our use of cookies and to abide by our Terms and Conditions.
