| Opposition corners 16:48 - Feb 1 with 1581 views | loftboy |
I have been screaming for this god knows how long to leave someone upfield at a corner, finally yesterday we left three!
De-congested the penalty box and gave us an out ball.
Only thing I found strange was after one we conceded a throw in then those three players dropped back! [Post edited 1 Feb 16:52]
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| Opposition corners on 16:51 - Feb 1 with 1526 views | jeffranger50 |
Totally agree & been saying the same thing |  | | |
| Opposition corners on 17:11 - Feb 1 with 1393 views | W12Mikey |
I thought it worked well yesterday. Not only does it provide an out ball, but it relieves the pressure on the keeper, especially as all our keepers have been criticised for failure to come and claim the ball in a crowded penalty area. Early days for this tactic, but I hope we persist with it. | | | |
| Opposition corners on 17:20 - Feb 1 with 1351 views | dmm |
It's not a tactic many teams employ so it will cause a degree of uncertainty in the opposition. I was pleased to see it employed yesterday and hope we keep doing it. |  | | |
| Opposition corners on 17:21 - Feb 1 with 1350 views | MrSheen |
| Opposition corners on 17:11 - Feb 1 by W12Mikey |
I thought it worked well yesterday. Not only does it provide an out ball, but it relieves the pressure on the keeper, especially as all our keepers have been criticised for failure to come and claim the ball in a crowded penalty area. Early days for this tactic, but I hope we persist with it. |
I wonder would Premier League teams try this with Arsenal? Arsenal might be so confident of a precise delivery that they would be happy to take the risk and have more up to rough the keeper up. |  | | |
| Opposition corners on 17:26 - Feb 1 with 1310 views | M40R |
Yeah, really liked the tactic and glad it was noticed. Waiting to see what Clive makes of it in his (much awaited) report, but it seemed refreshing after years of all back.
The odd thing is that with one up, the opposition normally leaves two back, but yesteday it was three back matching up our three so no numerical advantage.
It was a shame that it never got tested as I don't remember any corner being cleared as far as the half way line. | | | |
| Opposition corners on 17:31 - Feb 1 with 1276 views | loftboy |
| Opposition corners on 17:26 - Feb 1 by M40R |
Yeah, really liked the tactic and glad it was noticed. Waiting to see what Clive makes of it in his (much awaited) report, but it seemed refreshing after years of all back.
The odd thing is that with one up, the opposition normally leaves two back, but yesteday it was three back matching up our three so no numerical advantage.
It was a shame that it never got tested as I don't remember any corner being cleared as far as the half way line. |
There was one where Walsh sent a superb ball over to the left but as Brian would say CTN | |
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| Opposition corners on 17:33 - Feb 1 with 1256 views | QPRsince54 |
Like you guys, I have been calling for this tactic for a few years now. Only thing I would criticise is not having one of them in the middle of our half to receive the ball, which would allow the keeper to go short or long. | | | |
| Opposition corners on 17:48 - Feb 1 with 1165 views | hoopstar67 |
| Opposition corners on 17:21 - Feb 1 by MrSheen |
I wonder would Premier League teams try this with Arsenal? Arsenal might be so confident of a precise delivery that they would be happy to take the risk and have more up to rough the keeper up. |
There has been one team that has used it,might have been Aston Villa a few weeks ago. |  | | |
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| Opposition corners on 18:32 - Feb 1 with 1034 views | enfieldargh |
Why not accelerate it a bit, have the 2 wide players start running towards each other causing the defenders to shadow them, a bit like an NFL play, they could vary the routine all this going on before they have taken the corner and all the push me pull you pallava is going on.
Its revolutionary i tell you |  |
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| Opposition corners on 18:40 - Feb 1 with 985 views | Watford_Ranger |
Amazed you don’t see it in the Prem especially against the physically bigger sides.
Also interesting they only left three back. Sure most teams would choose 4-5. | | | |
| Opposition corners on 18:58 - Feb 1 with 930 views | qpr1976 |
From None up front to 3 !
I ‘kin love this Club….. | | | |
| Opposition corners on 19:38 - Feb 1 with 812 views | essextaxiboy |
One of the teams on MOTD used it yesterday not sure who but one of the pundits was saying how different it was and if any other teams dared trying it . I was shouting at the TV that we did it yesterday .. Fat Frank didn’t know how to deal with it |  | | |
| Opposition corners on 21:21 - Feb 1 with 643 views | Noelmc |
I'm a big fan of this tactic as it really annoys me when teams bring everyone back to defend corners. Invariably if the ball gets cleared the opponents have another chance to launch it into the box with their big men still up and keep the pressure on.
I think it suits us well as we invariably have a least two small players (perm any 2 from Chair, Smyth, Dembele, Saito & Poku) on the pitch at any time. They offer very little defensively at corners but could be a real threat on the break.
I think two left up is sufficient and means the penalty box is less congested for defending the corner, but all credit to Stephan for really going for it yesterday with three left up front. It worked well and long may it continue. |  | | |
| Opposition corners on 21:37 - Feb 1 with 545 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Opposition corners on 18:32 - Feb 1 by enfieldargh |
Why not accelerate it a bit, have the 2 wide players start running towards each other causing the defenders to shadow them, a bit like an NFL play, they could vary the routine all this going on before they have taken the corner and all the push me pull you pallava is going on.
Its revolutionary i tell you |
It's one of the things I really lament in the modern game: the lack of innovation from coaches/trainers. Dave Sexton was famous for this, e.g. going to watch Dutch teams at his own expense to help develop new free kick routines (though he was also working with talented originals like Venables and Bowles who had the skill and appetite to do things seemingly 'off the cuff' that were actually often carefully rehearsed). The point is, alluding to DS isn't merely 'nostalgic' (not that there's too much wrong with nostalgia) - it's about highlighting a kind of spirit of doing things that's all the more important as the game gets more 'professionalised', expectations get downward managed, and people get lazier, more scared, and stupider. I was thinking this week about what it has been that made me fall in love with QPR, and kept me in love, and for me it's been that maverick (often underdog) spirit: Stan, Stainrod, Wegerle, Byrne - and more recently the Terror Bat and Mr Eze.
Morrissey is right here - 'diversity', in many ways, breeds conformity. I think we live in very conformist times. Is there anyone apart from us of late (though we haven't been playing it very well) who doesn't play 4-5-1 these days, for instance? Yawn! It's why the forces of groupthink - whether it's on a football message board or in a football club - have to be fought all the harder. Inertia (and its close cousin, corruption) are two of the major human problems. For Christ's sake, we're all in boxes of one kind or another, so try thinking outside them.
I suppose what I'm saying is, at the end of the day and all things considered . . .
You Rrrrrs!  [Post edited 1 Feb 21:44]
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| Opposition corners on 21:38 - Feb 1 with 553 views | Tonto |
Totally agree. Its not like Dembele or Smyth are going to defend a corner very well is it? ,but with their pace, a quick outball will scare the shit out of defenders |  |
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| Opposition corners on 22:14 - Feb 1 with 428 views | Myke |
| Opposition corners on 21:38 - Feb 1 by Tonto |
Totally agree. Its not like Dembele or Smyth are going to defend a corner very well is it? ,but with their pace, a quick outball will scare the shit out of defenders |
Could be effective to leave Burrell up front when he returns. The oppo would deffo leave two back | | | |
| Opposition corners on 22:25 - Feb 1 with 386 views | nix |
My son says this every week. |  | | |
| Opposition corners on 00:47 - Feb 2 with 186 views | Spaghetti_Hoops |
It seems blindingly obvious to have at least one up, and if three works great.
I just hate the usual corner melees, the obstruction, the rugby tackles etc which seem to greatly favour the defending teams with referees too cowardly to award penalties. It seems obvious for the attacking team to have player(s) on the halfway line and spread out to give near post and beyond the far post options. Harder to get away with holding and obstruction.
Unless you have brilliant delivery under the bar like Arsenal with Rice, Saka etc when you wouldn't change a winning formula. | | | |
| Opposition corners on 01:09 - Feb 2 with 154 views | Northernr |
Yeh I don't know what brought that on yesterday but more please! |  | | |
| Opposition corners on 04:41 - Feb 2 with 69 views | PlanetHonneywood |
Been a real annoyance of mine for eons. With a team of diddy men, some of whom can shift, keeping one up always seemed a sensible outlet and one where the oppo needs to keep one extra back.
To wait so long and then have three, was beyond expectation. Thought Cov's response equally bold. We'll see if this continues and if it does, whether others follow suit.
Just can't believe its taken this long! |  |
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| Opposition corners on 05:24 - Feb 2 with 43 views | mart_Goblin |
It was so refreshing to see wasn’t it?
Everybody is so obsessed with ‘blockers’ at defensive corners and it’s a risk because attackers have more room to find space , but if you defend well then it really can work in your favour .
Could never get the everyone back for corners routine and fair play as it totally flummoxed Lampard and Coventry.
As said , would love to see that more . |  | | |
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