| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 19:51 - Feb 16 with 2280 views | Nookiejack |
Watching some news analysis last week - there was a U.S. military analyst who said U.S. military much more worried about the Iran (Shia Muslims) acquiring nuclear arms capability rather than ISIS (Sunni Muslims) of ever expanding Caliphate. |  | |  |
| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 20:10 - Feb 16 with 2262 views | Swanjack10 |
the marines,navy seals, sas should have ended this ages ago,isis are now targeting every country which will soon end in another world war,f u ck religion,its evil and should be dealt with,grow some balls cameron etc. |  |
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| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 20:16 - Feb 16 with 2257 views | twotimejack |
| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 20:10 - Feb 16 by Swanjack10 |
the marines,navy seals, sas should have ended this ages ago,isis are now targeting every country which will soon end in another world war,f u ck religion,its evil and should be dealt with,grow some balls cameron etc. |
Typical response from a brainless imbecile. |  |
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| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 20:19 - Feb 16 with 2250 views | Swanjack10 |
| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 20:16 - Feb 16 by twotimejack |
Typical response from a brainless imbecile. |
ive bothered you havent i lol,stalk alert,i smell carnage  | |
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| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 20:23 - Feb 16 with 2242 views | twotimejack |
| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 20:19 - Feb 16 by Swanjack10 |
ive bothered you havent i lol,stalk alert,i smell carnage |
What is this stalk alert you talk of ? | |
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| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 20:24 - Feb 16 with 2240 views | Jackfath |
| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 20:23 - Feb 16 by twotimejack |
What is this stalk alert you talk of ? |
Can you keep the thread on topic please? |  |
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| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 20:31 - Feb 16 with 2230 views | shimmie |
| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 17:33 - Feb 16 by Parlay |
Then again we disagree wholeheartedly.
The church was created to have control over the masses. It is not a religious base, it is disguised as religion. The Christian faith is based on the Egyptian faith. Is it a direct lifting of a religion even down to the 10 commandments being taken from the Egyptian book of the dead... Yet this religion was created years before Christianity.
All religions are the same. It is a human created thesis to make sense of why we are here and who created is, that was then taken on for control and power. ISIS are doing what they are doing to take control of land and power under the guise of religious radicalism.
The basis has nothing to do with religion. |
Ok then, do you agree that Islam is a religion? Because IS is 100%, by the letter, bells and braces islamic. | | | |
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| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 20:39 - Feb 16 with 2211 views | CountyJim |
| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 20:31 - Feb 16 by shimmie |
Ok then, do you agree that Islam is a religion? Because IS is 100%, by the letter, bells and braces islamic. |
The IRA where Catholic did you blame every Catholic or Catholicism for them |  | | |
| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 21:08 - Feb 16 with 2185 views | Lohengrin |
| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 20:39 - Feb 16 by CountyJim |
The IRA where Catholic did you blame every Catholic or Catholicism for them |
Since 1945 aside from the odd Jesuit fanatic the IRA were/are very much creatures of the far-left. In point of fact the only faction of any of the manifestations of Irish republicanism that carried Rome's sanction was O'Duffy's Blueshirts when they ventured to Spain in support of Franco's uprising. |  |
| An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it. |
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| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 21:12 - Feb 16 with 2180 views | shimmie |
| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 20:39 - Feb 16 by CountyJim |
The IRA where Catholic did you blame every Catholic or Catholicism for them |
Where did I say I blame all Muslims for IS? Most of them believe the fairy tale and don't hurt anyone. I do think Islam is more ridiculous than Scientology and more damaging than any other belief system in the world today. | | | |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 21:16 - Feb 16 with 2174 views | Wingstandwood |
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| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 21:31 - Feb 16 with 2144 views | Parlay |
| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 20:31 - Feb 16 by shimmie |
Ok then, do you agree that Islam is a religion? Because IS is 100%, by the letter, bells and braces islamic. |
Yes.
I dont believe ISIS are conducting their actions in the name of Islam. Some of the fighters may be misguidedly doing so however. |  |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 03:44 - Feb 17 with 2059 views | Highjack |
Well said. |  |
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| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 10:26 - Feb 17 with 2018 views | VetchitBack |
| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 21:31 - Feb 16 by Parlay |
Yes.
I dont believe ISIS are conducting their actions in the name of Islam. Some of the fighters may be misguidedly doing so however. |
"I don't believe ISIS are conducting their actions in the name of Islam."
Well a) "They are" and crucially b) "They believe they are"
I know the mainstream media like to play this card to pander to Muslims generally but it is self-evidently nonsense.
If Islamic State beheading Christians for being Christians is not about religion then the FA Cup is not about football.
Many scholars actually believe the extremists have a sounder theological basis for their actions. |  |
| The orthodox are always orthodox, regardless of the orthodoxy.
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| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 12:05 - Feb 17 with 1993 views | Parlay |
| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 10:26 - Feb 17 by VetchitBack |
"I don't believe ISIS are conducting their actions in the name of Islam."
Well a) "They are" and crucially b) "They believe they are"
I know the mainstream media like to play this card to pander to Muslims generally but it is self-evidently nonsense.
If Islamic State beheading Christians for being Christians is not about religion then the FA Cup is not about football.
Many scholars actually believe the extremists have a sounder theological basis for their actions. |
The FA Cup was founded to further the game of football. It has everything to do with football.
Again you aren't looking any further than the actions of the fighters. The REASON they are trying to establish a caliphate and essentially take over the middle east is not religiously motivated. IS was set up by a few individuals who are clearly doing it for power and wealth. Something religion was set up for in the first place. While someone cuts a christians head off in the process. Doesn't mean IS are religiously motivated, they are simply politically motivated.
IS are a power hungry organisation that has used religion as an excuse to recruit and justify their actions. They may do misguided religious atrocities, but they aren't religiously motivated. If Islam didn't exist IS would be looking for another excuse to do the same.
Many cant differentiate between the fighters of IS and IS themselves. Which is understandable due to the faceless nature of the hierarchy. However to assume their motivations are the same is simply naive in my opinion. [Post edited 17 Feb 2015 12:07]
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| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 12:11 - Feb 17 with 1987 views | Ponderosa |
| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 12:05 - Feb 17 by Parlay |
The FA Cup was founded to further the game of football. It has everything to do with football.
Again you aren't looking any further than the actions of the fighters. The REASON they are trying to establish a caliphate and essentially take over the middle east is not religiously motivated. IS was set up by a few individuals who are clearly doing it for power and wealth. Something religion was set up for in the first place. While someone cuts a christians head off in the process. Doesn't mean IS are religiously motivated, they are simply politically motivated.
IS are a power hungry organisation that has used religion as an excuse to recruit and justify their actions. They may do misguided religious atrocities, but they aren't religiously motivated. If Islam didn't exist IS would be looking for another excuse to do the same.
Many cant differentiate between the fighters of IS and IS themselves. Which is understandable due to the faceless nature of the hierarchy. However to assume their motivations are the same is simply naive in my opinion. [Post edited 17 Feb 2015 12:07]
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Look out, Kate Adie's had a Lambrini |  |
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| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 12:14 - Feb 17 with 1980 views | Parlay |
| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 12:11 - Feb 17 by Ponderosa |
Look out, Kate Adie's had a Lambrini |
God she talks sense under the influence. Well done Kate. | |
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| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 16:20 - Feb 17 with 1931 views | perchrockjack |
Briiliant that.
Shows quite simply IS is al about ISLAM.
Like all religious fundamentalists, ALL believe they are right and ALL others are wrong.
IS simply differs as it wants to kill all those who don't believe as they do.
Its that simple.
Islam s problem is that it very split with differing views of God and the juxtaposition of Mohammed his prophet.
Christianity has its own prophets ,who are also right ,according to their believers.
Thinking it is NOT about religion,ie ISLAM is folly and dangerously so.
IS whole ethos is religion based albeit as how they see it.
Without doubt it shows religion really is the cause of almost al wars to some degree and the sooner we have a secular world the better. | |
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| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 17:35 - Feb 17 with 1906 views | FearOfAJackPlanet |
Good read that. |  |
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| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 17:44 - Feb 17 with 1897 views | Parlay |
| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 16:20 - Feb 17 by perchrockjack |
Briiliant that.
Shows quite simply IS is al about ISLAM.
Like all religious fundamentalists, ALL believe they are right and ALL others are wrong.
IS simply differs as it wants to kill all those who don't believe as they do.
Its that simple.
Islam s problem is that it very split with differing views of God and the juxtaposition of Mohammed his prophet.
Christianity has its own prophets ,who are also right ,according to their believers.
Thinking it is NOT about religion,ie ISLAM is folly and dangerously so.
IS whole ethos is religion based albeit as how they see it.
Without doubt it shows religion really is the cause of almost al wars to some degree and the sooner we have a secular world the better. |
No Perch, not the cause, that is the point.
The excuse maybe, the front, the reason to recruit.... But not the cause. That is and always will be simply due to power and control. | |
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| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 20:12 - Feb 17 with 1870 views | perchrockjack |
All religion is about power.
Whether it be God or any other deity, it needs power to intimidate and control minds. And it does. | |
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| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 20:17 - Feb 17 with 1864 views | Parlay |
| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 20:12 - Feb 17 by perchrockjack |
All religion is about power.
Whether it be God or any other deity, it needs power to intimidate and control minds. And it does. |
Well no thats another thing all together.
Its a chicken and the egg type scenario. Power is not based on religion, but religion is based on power. Any move by ISIS is for power not religion, religion is the pretext for it. | |
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| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 10:22 - Feb 19 with 1785 views | trampie |
| ISIS behead 21 Christians. on 09:50 - Feb 16 by libertine |
what was the actual reason we helped them overthrow gadaffi,
I watched a terrifying documentary about oil on Netflix, which says a lot of things but include
that in the near future we are either going to have to accept that our armies go into other countries and take their oil off them
what we seem to forget is February of last year we were going to help these lunatics militarily to overthrow Assad, until we say the footage of one of their soldiers eating the heart of one of Asads soldiers
This blood is on our hands as a country for destabilising the whole area.
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Sh*g it was the Welsh and the other Celts that saved this country from going to war on the same side as the Islamic State, the English were all for it.
Nobody reported the fact although the information was out there how mps voted, virtually every mp representing Celtics areas no matter what party voted against war the majority of mps representing English constituencies voted for war which would have put us on the same side as IS and the rest of them groups.
Although the vast majority of mps represent English areas, the Celts were close to 100% against war and managed to carry the day.
Make no mistake an independent Wales and or Scotland just like Ireland would not always vote the same way as the English, a UN vote on Palestinian statehood im sure could well highlight that.
We could see Wales with the other Celtic nations and the rest of the World taking a different view to England and America (and Israel) and possibly one or two of the other Anglo Saxon nations if Wales was an independent sovereign state. |  |
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