| Adam Johnson on 20:27 - Feb 16 with 1659 views | sully49 |
What is the longest ever thread on PS? The trial is only 2 days in ffs, there's lots more to come. |  |
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| Adam Johnson on 20:28 - Feb 16 with 1655 views | Jacandme |
| Adam Johnson on 20:25 - Feb 16 by Jackfath |
Unfortunately if she is 15 it is illegal. I'm assuming here you understand that. If she went into school and told a teacher (or indeed if one of her friends told the teacher) the teacher has a professional and moral obligation to inform the school's child protection officer (every school has one). From there the officer would p[hone the county officer and from there social services would be in touch. |
What are you going on about? Where have I said she is having underage sexual relationships or that I would be happy supporting it?
Once we establish this then you may have some meaning behind your posts, at the moment they do not fit in with what has been discussed. |  | | |
| Adam Johnson on 20:28 - Feb 16 with 1653 views | Darran |
| Adam Johnson on 20:25 - Feb 16 by Jackfath |
Unfortunately if she is 15 it is illegal. I'm assuming here you understand that. If she went into school and told a teacher (or indeed if one of her friends told the teacher) the teacher has a professional and moral obligation to inform the school's child protection officer (every school has one). From there the officer would p[hone the county officer and from there social services would be in touch. |
Well if she went into school and said we are going on holidays for half term and my dad says I can have sexual intercourse over there if I want to because it's legal there'd be consequences. |  |
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| Adam Johnson on 20:30 - Feb 16 with 1641 views | shandyjack |
| Adam Johnson on 20:26 - Feb 16 by Jacandme |
She is a very intelligent young woman, not a child. If you disagree with the laws interpretation of what a child is then feel free to lobby against it, I can't help you on that front. |
Wrong, a 15 year old girl is a child. |  |
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| Adam Johnson on 20:30 - Feb 16 with 1639 views | Dewi1jack |
| Adam Johnson on 20:20 - Feb 16 by shandyjack |
I find it incredible that you'd be supportive of youre child having sex at such a young age with a 30 year old man. |
This thread has some very sinister overtones to it.
So, Jacandme a question.
Do you think that sex at the age of 8 or 10 with a much older man is right or wrong?
There are countries that allow arranged marriages at this age and turn a blind eye to anything that goes on between married couples.
So in your world, I have to assume that both you and that waste of space Skippyjack think it's acceptable.
Both of you need serious, serious therapy and quickly.
How the fuk you can even think you're a half tidy parent to your 15yr old is beyond me. |  |
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| Adam Johnson on 20:31 - Feb 16 with 1634 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Adam Johnson on 20:28 - Feb 16 by Jacandme |
What are you going on about? Where have I said she is having underage sexual relationships or that I would be happy supporting it?
Once we establish this then you may have some meaning behind your posts, at the moment they do not fit in with what has been discussed. |
What do you think the age of consent should be? |  |
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| Adam Johnson on 20:32 - Feb 16 with 1621 views | Jackfath |
| Adam Johnson on 20:31 - Feb 16 by exiledclaseboy |
What do you think the age of consent should be? |
He's good at avoiding this question. |  |
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| Adam Johnson on 20:33 - Feb 16 with 1618 views | Jacandme |
| Adam Johnson on 20:28 - Feb 16 by Darran |
Well if she went into school and said we are going on holidays for half term and my dad says I can have sexual intercourse over there if I want to because it's legal there'd be consequences. |
That wouldn't be the case though would it as that is not what I said.
If we are in a country where the legal age of consent is 15 and not 16 and my 15 year old daughter had legal consentual sex, then I would be supportive of her decision, not happy, but supportive. She is an intelligent young wiman capable of far more than decising if she wants sex or not.
So no, I wouldnt inform her that "we are going to a country where the law is 12 months younger so go for it" or whatever other nonsensical twisting of words and scenarios you wish to oartake in to make your point look less feeble. | | | |
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| Adam Johnson on 20:35 - Feb 16 with 1603 views | Jacandme |
| Adam Johnson on 20:30 - Feb 16 by shandyjack |
Wrong, a 15 year old girl is a child. |
In your opinion, thats fine. Some maybe are chikdren i agree. Some 16 year olds are children too. But many aren't. Adult and child isn't decided by age, its maturity. | | | |
| Adam Johnson on 20:35 - Feb 16 with 1599 views | Darran |
| Adam Johnson on 20:33 - Feb 16 by Jacandme |
That wouldn't be the case though would it as that is not what I said.
If we are in a country where the legal age of consent is 15 and not 16 and my 15 year old daughter had legal consentual sex, then I would be supportive of her decision, not happy, but supportive. She is an intelligent young wiman capable of far more than decising if she wants sex or not.
So no, I wouldnt inform her that "we are going to a country where the law is 12 months younger so go for it" or whatever other nonsensical twisting of words and scenarios you wish to oartake in to make your point look less feeble. |
Sick you are. | |
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| Adam Johnson on 20:36 - Feb 16 with 1594 views | pencoedjack |
Dear oh dear a 26 year bloke admits to fiddling with a 15 year old girl who idolised him and still some try to justify it.
Hang your heads in shame. |  | | |
| Adam Johnson on 20:36 - Feb 16 with 1590 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Adam Johnson on 20:35 - Feb 16 by Jacandme |
In your opinion, thats fine. Some maybe are chikdren i agree. Some 16 year olds are children too. But many aren't. Adult and child isn't decided by age, its maturity. |
What do you think the age of consent should be? Any what age do you think it's acceptable for young people to be able to consent to having sex? | |
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| Adam Johnson on 20:36 - Feb 16 with 1586 views | Jackfath |
| Adam Johnson on 20:35 - Feb 16 by Darran |
Sick you are. |
Are you turning into Yoda? | |
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| Adam Johnson on 20:37 - Feb 16 with 1586 views | shandyjack |
| Adam Johnson on 20:35 - Feb 16 by Jacandme |
In your opinion, thats fine. Some maybe are chikdren i agree. Some 16 year olds are children too. But many aren't. Adult and child isn't decided by age, its maturity. |
Not in the eyes of the law. | |
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| Adam Johnson on 20:39 - Feb 16 with 1577 views | Darran |
| Adam Johnson on 20:36 - Feb 16 by Jackfath |
Are you turning into Yoda? |
Be so silly, do not. | |
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| Adam Johnson on 20:39 - Feb 16 with 1579 views | Jacandme |
| Adam Johnson on 20:31 - Feb 16 by exiledclaseboy |
What do you think the age of consent should be? |
I would be happy if my country had 15/16 as the legal consent age, as I feel those are the ages where most decide they wish to develop sexual relationships. I am happy with our standard at 16, but am wise enough to know many 15 year olds are no different to the legal 16 year olds and can be just as physically and mentally mature. However the kaw is there to protect those that are not. | | | |
| Adam Johnson on 20:41 - Feb 16 with 1570 views | Jackfath |
| Adam Johnson on 20:39 - Feb 16 by Jacandme |
I would be happy if my country had 15/16 as the legal consent age, as I feel those are the ages where most decide they wish to develop sexual relationships. I am happy with our standard at 16, but am wise enough to know many 15 year olds are no different to the legal 16 year olds and can be just as physically and mentally mature. However the kaw is there to protect those that are not. |
What about a mature 13 or 14 year old? | |
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| Adam Johnson on 20:41 - Feb 16 with 1570 views | shandyjack |
| Adam Johnson on 20:35 - Feb 16 by Jacandme |
In your opinion, thats fine. Some maybe are chikdren i agree. Some 16 year olds are children too. But many aren't. Adult and child isn't decided by age, its maturity. |
The UN Convention on the Rights of the Child defines a child as everyone under 18 unless, "under the law applicable to the child, majority is attained earlier" (Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights, 1989). The UK has ratified this convention.
Taken from the NSPCC website.
So in the eyes of the law your 15 year old daughter is a child, and the fact you'd support her having sex with a 30 year old man is sickening | |
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| Adam Johnson on 20:43 - Feb 16 with 1558 views | Jacandme |
| Adam Johnson on 20:37 - Feb 16 by shandyjack |
Not in the eyes of the law. |
Agreed. But the law and nature often conflict. I was certainly not a child at 15. [Post edited 16 Feb 2016 20:43]
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| Adam Johnson on 20:44 - Feb 16 with 1543 views | shandyjack |
| Adam Johnson on 20:43 - Feb 16 by Jacandme |
Agreed. But the law and nature often conflict. I was certainly not a child at 15. [Post edited 16 Feb 2016 20:43]
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yes you were [Post edited 16 Feb 2016 20:44]
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| Adam Johnson on 20:45 - Feb 16 with 1525 views | Jacandme |
| Adam Johnson on 20:41 - Feb 16 by shandyjack |
The UN Convention on the Rights of the Child defines a child as everyone under 18 unless, "under the law applicable to the child, majority is attained earlier" (Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights, 1989). The UK has ratified this convention.
Taken from the NSPCC website.
So in the eyes of the law your 15 year old daughter is a child, and the fact you'd support her having sex with a 30 year old man is sickening |
By that stance a 17 year old having sex is also "sickening". Where as I would be happy to assume most people have done by 18.
I have said I would support my daughter if ahe decides to have "legal" sexual relations. Why you keep wanting to twost that I am not so sure. | | | |
| Adam Johnson on 20:46 - Feb 16 with 1521 views | Jacandme |
| Adam Johnson on 20:44 - Feb 16 by shandyjack |
yes you were [Post edited 16 Feb 2016 20:44]
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No. No I wasn't. | | | |
| Adam Johnson on 20:46 - Feb 16 with 1515 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Adam Johnson on 20:35 - Feb 16 by Jacandme |
In your opinion, thats fine. Some maybe are chikdren i agree. Some 16 year olds are children too. But many aren't. Adult and child isn't decided by age, its maturity. |
Given the law can't spend time talking at length to each one, it has to be decided on age. 15 is illegal. You were specifically asked (after you said your child was 15) whether you'd find it acceptable if she had a relationship with a man of 26 and you said yes. It's illegal at that age in this country. You attempted to say it was legal throughout a lot of Europe, and there could only be a few months in it but that couldn't be less relevant.
As it happens, I personally find a relationship between a person of 60 and a person of 25 utterly repulsive, but that's just me. It's not sexism either, a few years ago I was shopping in Bond Street in Gucci (window shopping it must be said...) and a very famous female music star was in there with a boyfriend of at least 30 years younger than her. She spent her time telling him ' try it on I'll buy you anything you want'. Absolutely pathetic it was, and I was actually quite disappointed as I'd always previously liked her. So it works all ways and is sad and repulsive every which way. | | | |
| Adam Johnson on 20:47 - Feb 16 with 1511 views | SwansNZ |
My daughter is 16 and legally entitled to have sex, but if she was having sex with a 26 year old man, or even older, the last thing I would be is bloody supportive. |  |
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| Adam Johnson on 20:47 - Feb 16 with 1510 views | shandyjack |
| Adam Johnson on 20:45 - Feb 16 by Jacandme |
By that stance a 17 year old having sex is also "sickening". Where as I would be happy to assume most people have done by 18.
I have said I would support my daughter if ahe decides to have "legal" sexual relations. Why you keep wanting to twost that I am not so sure. |
i posted that to define what a child was, i'm not twisting anything, it may be legal in other countries but it is morally wrong for a young child to have sex with a grown adult | |
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