| GUIDO OUT!!!!! 16:22 - Sep 18 with 5658 views | swannylad |
Negative football. Defend defend defend. How can you expect our new strikers to make an impact with these tactics ? Useless and clueless get him out NOW! [Post edited 18 Sep 2016 16:25]
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| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 19:03 - Sep 18 with 1213 views | monmouth |
The best summary of the day.
"We were just sort of there". |  |
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| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 20:07 - Sep 18 with 1138 views | Jack123 |
It took me a while for it to sink in with Monk, even though loads said beforehand.. I just can't see ferk all working with Franco.. Fuc*ng abysmal today.. Clueless.. |  |
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| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 20:25 - Sep 18 with 1103 views | Nookiejack |
| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 18:55 - Sep 18 by JackFish |
It wasn't defensive though was it really? We didn't sit back and constrict the space and defend well, nor did we crowd the midfield and make things difficult for them. We were just sort of there, not really looking like we had a clue what to do, either in defence or attack. |
Yes you are right - the worrying thing was how much space they found between our defensive midfield and defence. Seemed to open us up at will towards end of first half and 15-20 minute spell in second half. Couldn't change the tempo either and break things up - wave after wave coming at us.
Southampton were very good their big weakness was their finishing. Another club that have gone past us by a long way. Thought they were much better than last season - when they beat us twice.
Baston looked quite good though | | | |
| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 20:30 - Sep 18 with 1087 views | Gowerjack |
| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 17:28 - Sep 18 by perchrockjack |
We showed spirit v Chelsea .
We didn't today.
We didn't carry it on.
Down to manager |
Disagree.
Down to the players. |  |
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| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 20:36 - Sep 18 with 1070 views | exiledclaseboy |
| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 20:30 - Sep 18 by Gowerjack |
Disagree.
Down to the players. |
The manager is ultimately responsible. He's in charge, he carries the can. |  |
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| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 20:39 - Sep 18 with 1058 views | Smellyplumz |
| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 20:36 - Sep 18 by exiledclaseboy |
The manager is ultimately responsible. He's in charge, he carries the can. |
Yep and a good manager will galvanise the squad and the team spirit, Rodgers being a prime example for us. |  |
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""Although I cannot promise or predict the future, I can guarantee one thing - the current board of directors will always fight, as we have done over the last 12 years, to work together as one with the Supporters Trust to make 100% sure that Swansea City football club remains the number one priority in all our thoughts and in every decision we make." | | Poll: | Huw Jenkins |
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| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 20:39 - Sep 18 with 1056 views | 3swan |
| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 20:36 - Sep 18 by exiledclaseboy |
The manager is ultimately responsible. He's in charge, he carries the can. |
He carries the can, but he can't make players pass to each other and offer support.
Now at the end of last season, and again this season he has said in interviews that we need to be more aggressive in our play and at a higher tempo.
Now either this isn't done in match preparation or the players just aren't capable. | | | |
| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 20:42 - Sep 18 with 1047 views | JackFish |
| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 20:39 - Sep 18 by 3swan |
He carries the can, but he can't make players pass to each other and offer support.
Now at the end of last season, and again this season he has said in interviews that we need to be more aggressive in our play and at a higher tempo.
Now either this isn't done in match preparation or the players just aren't capable. |
He can't make the players pass to each other no, but surely it's his responsibility to make sure that they at the very least give 100% effort and commitment. |  | | |
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| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 20:46 - Sep 18 with 1032 views | 3swan |
| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 20:42 - Sep 18 by JackFish |
He can't make the players pass to each other no, but surely it's his responsibility to make sure that they at the very least give 100% effort and commitment. |
Again yes he should, but once over that white line it's mostly down to the players.
In reality when you look at the rest of the squad has he many options to improve things.
This isn't me out and out supporting him as I believe there are things wrong all through the club from top to bottom, culminating in what we see an the pitch | | | |
| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 20:47 - Sep 18 with 1028 views | FearOfAJackPlanet |
| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 20:39 - Sep 18 by 3swan |
He carries the can, but he can't make players pass to each other and offer support.
Now at the end of last season, and again this season he has said in interviews that we need to be more aggressive in our play and at a higher tempo.
Now either this isn't done in match preparation or the players just aren't capable. |
"he can't make players pass to each other and offer support."
It's kind of his job description though, isn't it? |  |
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| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 20:48 - Sep 18 with 1014 views | Gowerjack |
| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 20:36 - Sep 18 by exiledclaseboy |
The manager is ultimately responsible. He's in charge, he carries the can. |
Not once they go over the white line it's then down to the players. | |
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| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 20:49 - Sep 18 with 1012 views | 3swan |
| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 20:47 - Sep 18 by FearOfAJackPlanet |
"he can't make players pass to each other and offer support."
It's kind of his job description though, isn't it? |
Yes but also the basics of their job.
Being 'Premier League' players you'd have thought they would have mastered the basics | | | |
| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 20:52 - Sep 18 with 985 views | exiledclaseboy |
How many different formations did we play today? Three? And none of them were any good.
The lopsided one winger formation reminds me of the Flynn halcyon days. | |
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| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 20:53 - Sep 18 with 973 views | exiledclaseboy |
| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 20:48 - Sep 18 by Gowerjack |
Not once they go over the white line it's then down to the players. |
So his come it's always the manager who loses his job then? | |
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| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 20:53 - Sep 18 with 970 views | 3swan |
| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 20:52 - Sep 18 by exiledclaseboy |
How many different formations did we play today? Three? And none of them were any good.
The lopsided one winger formation reminds me of the Flynn halcyon days. |
We stayed up | | | |
| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 20:59 - Sep 18 with 913 views | JackFish |
| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 20:52 - Sep 18 by exiledclaseboy |
How many different formations did we play today? Three? And none of them were any good.
The lopsided one winger formation reminds me of the Flynn halcyon days. |
Oh good, someone else noticed we were playing some bizarre diamond with a sort-of-winger on one side and a huge gap on the other. I couldn't work out if one of Siggy/Fer was meant to be staying wider on the left or if we'd deliberately lined up with four central midfielders, one striker and one winger. | | | |
| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 21:00 - Sep 18 with 909 views | FearOfAJackPlanet |
| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 20:49 - Sep 18 by 3swan |
Yes but also the basics of their job.
Being 'Premier League' players you'd have thought they would have mastered the basics |
We all know players are generally c*nts. Pampered, self-important darlings.
But if they won't perform for their manager, we have to sack the manager and acquiesce to the players. Chelsea sacked their best manager ever due to player power, we'll probably have to bin FG for the same reason.
It's sickening, but it's the nature of the beast.
Maybe there will be some constructive clear-the-air talks this week and we wipe the slate clean; not holding my breath though. | |
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| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 21:04 - Sep 18 with 897 views | 3swan |
| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 21:00 - Sep 18 by FearOfAJackPlanet |
We all know players are generally c*nts. Pampered, self-important darlings.
But if they won't perform for their manager, we have to sack the manager and acquiesce to the players. Chelsea sacked their best manager ever due to player power, we'll probably have to bin FG for the same reason.
It's sickening, but it's the nature of the beast.
Maybe there will be some constructive clear-the-air talks this week and we wipe the slate clean; not holding my breath though. |
It is the way of football to sack the manager, but it just confirms what we think about players.
Do they do the same to the next manager and the one after that. The manager has to earn their respect but the players also have to earn ours. | | | |
| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 21:05 - Sep 18 with 890 views | Gowerjack |
| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 20:53 - Sep 18 by exiledclaseboy |
So his come it's always the manager who loses his job then? |
Thats a dull question. | |
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| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 21:09 - Sep 18 with 872 views | JackFish |
| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 21:00 - Sep 18 by FearOfAJackPlanet |
We all know players are generally c*nts. Pampered, self-important darlings.
But if they won't perform for their manager, we have to sack the manager and acquiesce to the players. Chelsea sacked their best manager ever due to player power, we'll probably have to bin FG for the same reason.
It's sickening, but it's the nature of the beast.
Maybe there will be some constructive clear-the-air talks this week and we wipe the slate clean; not holding my breath though. |
Exactly. You can hardly sack the whole squad of players. | | | |
| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 21:10 - Sep 18 with 869 views | exiledclaseboy |
| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 21:05 - Sep 18 by Gowerjack |
Thats a dull question. |
I agree, because the answer is self evident. It's the manager's responsibility to get his players to perform. This stuff about "well there's nothing he can do once they're on the pitch" is a trite and glib platitude. | |
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| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 21:12 - Sep 18 with 857 views | harryhpalmer |
the players have got a bloody responsibility, and need to man up.
If they are unhappy about the tactics, which it seems they are, then the senior pros need to go to the manager - Leon, Cork, Siggy, and tell him the "team" are not comfortable playing this way. | |
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| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 21:12 - Sep 18 with 857 views | 3swan |
| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 21:10 - Sep 18 by exiledclaseboy |
I agree, because the answer is self evident. It's the manager's responsibility to get his players to perform. This stuff about "well there's nothing he can do once they're on the pitch" is a trite and glib platitude. |
Not quite. They are adults and not young kids.
Do you need your manager to instill your work ethic. | | | |
| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 21:15 - Sep 18 with 842 views | exiledclaseboy |
| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 21:12 - Sep 18 by 3swan |
Not quite. They are adults and not young kids.
Do you need your manager to instill your work ethic. |
No, but she'll carry the can if I f*ck up just the same as I will if my team messes up. | |
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| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 21:17 - Sep 18 with 828 views | 3swan |
| GUIDO OUT!!!!! on 21:15 - Sep 18 by exiledclaseboy |
No, but she'll carry the can if I f*ck up just the same as I will if my team messes up. |
Are you saying it's as black and white as that?
Or would all other circumstances be taken into account. | | | |
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