| Some of our owners on 22:45 - Dec 17 with 2923 views | Garyjack |
| Some of our owners on 22:23 - Dec 17 by PawelAbbott |
Quite possibly not.
The trust holds 21.1%.
The consortium holds 68% split over 25 sub share holders.
The consortium is held together by Levein and Kaplan.
However, a consortium member does not have to remain in support of its key shareholers and can use their shareholding to back a different controlling stake in the club if they feel that is a better management of their investment.
Current management of the club is looking like losing their entire investment, possibly they would seek a better leadership of the investment than Levein and Kaplan are currently displaying.
The idea that they are or can asset strip has been discussed at length on here previously and the result is always that it is not legally possible as they can't take the money from the club except via dividends or sale of shares.
Relegation means almost entire loss of investment.
I probably am missing something though |
Look, these 'investors' invest in lot's of things. Some pay off, some don't. They do not have a personal interest in any of them, even to the point that some do not even know what they've invested in! It's all managed for them. Some you win, some you lose. Do you honestly think for 1 minute that the pretty girl from the BBC website (can't be bothered to bring up her name) even realises she is a Swansea City shareholder? I'll bet you a penny to a bucket of shit she's never heard of us! But the people who manage her finances have, and taken a little punt. |  | |  |
| Some of our owners on 22:46 - Dec 17 with 2922 views | Darran |
| Some of our owners on 22:39 - Dec 17 by londonlisa2001 |
Wouldn't have been the first time shares were sold undervalue (Nurse), or people were given plenty of time to find the money...
You can sell your shares for what you want Darran. They'd have made less of course. Possibly a lot less. But they could have also held on and worked with the Trust to find someone that valued being different and working with fans. |
Thank you Lisa that’s now made me more angry. |  |
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| Some of our owners on 22:50 - Dec 17 with 2911 views | max936 |
| Some of our owners on 22:39 - Dec 17 by londonlisa2001 |
Wouldn't have been the first time shares were sold undervalue (Nurse), or people were given plenty of time to find the money...
You can sell your shares for what you want Darran. They'd have made less of course. Possibly a lot less. But they could have also held on and worked with the Trust to find someone that valued being different and working with fans. |
They would never have done that, they're all about self interest that much is becoming clearer by each passing day. |  |
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| Some of our owners on 22:57 - Dec 17 with 2882 views | Private_Partz |
| Some of our owners on 22:50 - Dec 17 by max936 |
They would never have done that, they're all about self interest that much is becoming clearer by each passing day. |
Yep and they would have delayed the sale and lost money as the Trust struggled to raise funds.
The Trust scuppered the previous deal which ironically now looks better than the current one.
Hence the Trust were left out of the loop and the sale rushed though. They have since been scratching around trying to negate the SHA in operation at the time by any means possible.
Shameful behaviour by those who claimed to have had the interests of their club at heart. |  |
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| Some of our owners on 23:15 - Dec 17 with 2812 views | longlostjack |
It's why I asked our newly co-opted Trust Board member Andrew McGlashan on a previous thread whether he had ever crossed paths with Oaktree Capital in his professional dealings with US Equity firms. Just to put my mind at rest I'd be grateful if he could confirm that he hasn't. [Post edited 17 Dec 2017 23:16]
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| Some of our owners on 23:48 - Dec 17 with 2749 views | PawelAbbott |
| Some of our owners on 22:45 - Dec 17 by Garyjack |
Look, these 'investors' invest in lot's of things. Some pay off, some don't. They do not have a personal interest in any of them, even to the point that some do not even know what they've invested in! It's all managed for them. Some you win, some you lose. Do you honestly think for 1 minute that the pretty girl from the BBC website (can't be bothered to bring up her name) even realises she is a Swansea City shareholder? I'll bet you a penny to a bucket of shit she's never heard of us! But the people who manage her finances have, and taken a little punt. |
Yes, I completely agree. I wasn't anticipating that she in particular was about to come forward and push to run the club.
However, any or all of them maybe looking for a way to get some return on investment. And right now they are staring at losing the whole lot.
For the sake of someone from the trust doing all the work, running the club etc and they have to change their voting to back the trust over Levein they may see some return. |  | | |
| Some of our owners on 23:49 - Dec 17 with 2748 views | Outsider |
| Some of our owners on 22:45 - Dec 17 by Garyjack |
Look, these 'investors' invest in lot's of things. Some pay off, some don't. They do not have a personal interest in any of them, even to the point that some do not even know what they've invested in! It's all managed for them. Some you win, some you lose. Do you honestly think for 1 minute that the pretty girl from the BBC website (can't be bothered to bring up her name) even realises she is a Swansea City shareholder? I'll bet you a penny to a bucket of shit she's never heard of us! But the people who manage her finances have, and taken a little punt. |
Gary is right ... this is our reality. | | | |
| Some of our owners on 23:51 - Dec 17 with 2745 views | Outsider |
| Some of our owners on 22:35 - Dec 17 by Darran |
I’m not being a clever twát here Lis but how could they have sold a few percent to the Trust if the Trust didn’t have the money to buy? |
As Lisa has said the are many ways they could have done this and secured a long-term legacy for Swansea supporters. It is so disappointing and disgusting that I hardly have words. | | | |
| Some of our owners on 23:56 - Dec 17 with 2725 views | harryhpalmer |
| Some of our owners on 23:48 - Dec 17 by PawelAbbott |
Yes, I completely agree. I wasn't anticipating that she in particular was about to come forward and push to run the club.
However, any or all of them maybe looking for a way to get some return on investment. And right now they are staring at losing the whole lot.
For the sake of someone from the trust doing all the work, running the club etc and they have to change their voting to back the trust over Levein they may see some return. |
most of them are either affiliated to kaplan or Levien by business relationships or birth. And the others I suspect have investments through their other investment vehicles.
So I very much doubt the Trust approaching any of these people would make a difference.
Maybe Mindy may not like the publicity if here twitter account started getting loads of negative Swansea posts though! | |
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| Some of our owners on 00:09 - Dec 18 with 2693 views | Al_Bundy |
We deserve all that's coming our way in the remaining months of the season and beyond ! | | | |
| Some of our owners on 00:13 - Dec 18 with 2684 views | jasper_T |
Are hedge funds really a new concept to you lot? | | | |
| Some of our owners on 00:17 - Dec 18 with 2672 views | londonlisa2001 |
The Mattew Walsh mentioned is an ex basketball player not a comedian.
He's linked with the close that Tummer mentioned earlier. His name came up before somewhere. | | | |
| Some of our owners on 02:39 - Dec 18 with 2609 views | LeonWasGod |
| Some of our owners on 19:53 - Dec 17 by magicdaps10 |
I still cant believe people think that by getting relegated that these people wont make money....they will.
The parachute payments and the inevitable sale of players in the summer when relegated, with little to no money put in for signings will be the start of things......they bought the club far too cheap.
Their profit will be made when they sell the club on, all they will need is what they paid for it and their bank accounts will be far healthier. |
They won't be making a profit is they sell the club on in the Championship. They'd be lucky to get half their money back.
Selling players may boost the coffers, but we haven't got many who are worth anything.
They obviously want to make money, but it's not that easy in the Championship. Most clubs there are run at a loss. Take Cardiff - they posted their first profit under Tan the first season back in the Championship, a whopping £3.8m. last year they posted a £9m loss, even with parachute payments.
The excellent Swiss Ramble blog has talked about the state of the Championship finances earlier this year. Here are the profit & losses over the previous 2 years.
In short, we HAVE to stay in the PL for the American consortium to stand any chance of making a reasonable return on their punt. |  | | |
| Some of our owners on 04:34 - Dec 18 with 2583 views | Ebo |
| Some of our owners on 20:11 - Dec 17 by Dan_Swan |
Does he not own a camera phone? |
Maybe he is a flat earth type and has one of those Nikon cameras. [Post edited 18 Dec 2017 4:34]
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| Some of our owners on 09:31 - Dec 18 with 2463 views | fbreath |
I wonder if all these people with shares in SCFC invested on the back of watching JTAK.
Can you imagine them getting friends around for a movie night showing them their latest big money spinner. |  |
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| Some of our owners on 09:36 - Dec 18 with 2459 views | Smellyplumz |
| Some of our owners on 20:13 - Dec 17 by NeathJack |
Story has now been updated to include them all:
Swansea Football LLC: Jeffrey Aronson, Kerry Assil, Laurence Berg, Romie Chaudhari, Landon Donovan, Robert Hernreich, Mindy Kaling, Kevin Knight, David Ott, Chip Rosenbloom, Ian Schapiro, Edward Shapiro, David Snyderman, Andris Upitis, Dr John Zvijak, Jed Kaplan, George Leiva, Curtis Lane, James Ford, Michael Harmon, Brian Wersdesheim, Michael Singer, Cliff Singer, Matthew Walsh, Steven Yi. |
I hope they all lose every penny |  |
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""Although I cannot promise or predict the future, I can guarantee one thing - the current board of directors will always fight, as we have done over the last 12 years, to work together as one with the Supporters Trust to make 100% sure that Swansea City football club remains the number one priority in all our thoughts and in every decision we make." | | Poll: | Huw Jenkins |
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| Some of our owners on 09:48 - Dec 18 with 2440 views | Fireboy2 |
Was out on an alldayer in manchester yesterday so missed this unbelievable sheeite
I dont want to trawl through all the posts but this proves conclusively that the fcuking yanks have always been in it to make money and with now being out in the open it should give us good reason to mount a strong and sustained demonstrations against the owners and especially the sellouts
Fcuking disgusting creatures the lot of them |  | | |
| Some of our owners on 13:11 - Dec 18 with 2346 views | JoshTheJack |
The PL fit and proper person test has a lot to awnser for. |  | | |
| Some of our owners on 13:13 - Dec 18 with 2344 views | dobjack2 |
Reads more like a list of people in a lottery syndicate rather than fit and proper owners of a football club. | | | |
| Some of our owners on 13:23 - Dec 18 with 2317 views | Shaky |
Where does this info come from? How were Top Secret Delaware corporate filings obtained by some Welsh journo?
I am not sure i trust it is accurate, especially with all the hysteria and crackpot conspiracy theories flying around. |  |
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