| Time for us to complain to BBC 12:13 - Jan 2 with 4282 views | harryhpalmer |
I see the BBC Wales Sport have again produced an unbalanced article - propaganda piece - from the ex-shareholder.
Today they have given Rob Davies's nonsense airtime, with no rebuttal or comment from either the Trust or Phil/Hamer.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42536039
So its time for us to hit back and complain about this bias and accuse them of not following their PSB remit.
Here's a link to their online form. https://ssl.bbc.co.uk/complaints/forms/?lang=en&reset=&uid=648471691
If we get enough numbers in, then maybe someone on high will have to take notice.
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| Time for us to complain to BBC on 12:37 - Jan 2 with 4157 views | swanseajack4eva |
Disappointing but predictable. Thanks for link to make a complaint.
As I said on here yesterday to ECB ...
"I realise that, but the Trust statement was made before the Rob Davies article was released ... so in the eyes of people reading it (incl. mainstream media) the Davies article supersedes and discredits the Trust statement. In a social media world you have to keep pumping out key messages simply and consistently ... and refute categorically errors that are put out by others. Few people can be bothered to search and piece together the full story.
A simple statement from Phil and Nigel to mainstream media and a response under the comments section on the website would suffice. It would also help demonstrate the untrustworthiness of the sell-outs in upcoming legal action, if the Trust board decides to take this step."
I went to the Dai Sport website and at least added links to the Trust and SCSA statements. I realise the Trust board is all volunteer time. |  | | |
| Time for us to complain to BBC on 16:51 - Jan 2 with 3798 views | waynekerr55 |
Complaint filed. ðŸ |  |
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| Time for us to complain to BBC on 17:02 - Jan 2 with 3743 views | trampie |
The Beeb hey.  |  |
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| Time for us to complain to BBC on 18:24 - Jan 2 with 3560 views | Swanseaman |
I'm not sure if I should write this into the BBC complains or not? Is it too much information? any thoughts???
[[[The article 'Huw Jenkins: Former shareholder Rob Davies backs Swansea chairman' is not factual, & is misleading. Swansea city supporters trust are being discredited, the truth is it's the shareholders who excluded the Trust from sale negotiations which caused the rift.
By the time the Trust were informed of the sale, it was so far advanced there was little they could do about it.
If the trust were aware of the sale to the Americans from the start, the sale may not have gone ahead. The Trust was there to make sure the Club would never again be sold to the wrong people. Checks on the Americans would have been made and seeing other failed sports ventures and no intentions of any investments, they may have advised the other shareholders not to sell.
Years ago when the Trust was formed, the main purpose was to gain shares, be on the board, and to make sure no dodgy dealings were ever done. They were a safeguard to the future of Swansea, a protector of the club so that they could never again get in a similar mess as the Tony petty days.
Apart from being left out of the initial sale discussions, measures were put in place to reduce the trusts powers, and deals were made behind their backs. Shareholders, knowingly went against the Trusts ethos, because it was the ONLY way to sell their shares and make their money. They excluded the Trust, bypassed the protection processes, and are now trying to discredit the trust.
Swansea City supporters were told the sale to the Americans would take us to the next level. This was not the case and was never going to be. Why would the shareholders possibly want to sell to anyone who had absolutely no intentions of investing a penny into the club. The only people who would want that were the shareholders to gain profits for themselves.
All of these media interviews and articles are being used to discredit the Trust, a propaganda campaign you should look into. Facts are being distorted due to the potential of a court case.]]] |  |
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| Time for us to complain to BBC on 18:58 - Jan 2 with 3447 views | BrynCartwright |
| Time for us to complain to BBC on 18:24 - Jan 2 by Swanseaman |
I'm not sure if I should write this into the BBC complains or not? Is it too much information? any thoughts???
[[[The article 'Huw Jenkins: Former shareholder Rob Davies backs Swansea chairman' is not factual, & is misleading. Swansea city supporters trust are being discredited, the truth is it's the shareholders who excluded the Trust from sale negotiations which caused the rift.
By the time the Trust were informed of the sale, it was so far advanced there was little they could do about it.
If the trust were aware of the sale to the Americans from the start, the sale may not have gone ahead. The Trust was there to make sure the Club would never again be sold to the wrong people. Checks on the Americans would have been made and seeing other failed sports ventures and no intentions of any investments, they may have advised the other shareholders not to sell.
Years ago when the Trust was formed, the main purpose was to gain shares, be on the board, and to make sure no dodgy dealings were ever done. They were a safeguard to the future of Swansea, a protector of the club so that they could never again get in a similar mess as the Tony petty days.
Apart from being left out of the initial sale discussions, measures were put in place to reduce the trusts powers, and deals were made behind their backs. Shareholders, knowingly went against the Trusts ethos, because it was the ONLY way to sell their shares and make their money. They excluded the Trust, bypassed the protection processes, and are now trying to discredit the trust.
Swansea City supporters were told the sale to the Americans would take us to the next level. This was not the case and was never going to be. Why would the shareholders possibly want to sell to anyone who had absolutely no intentions of investing a penny into the club. The only people who would want that were the shareholders to gain profits for themselves.
All of these media interviews and articles are being used to discredit the Trust, a propaganda campaign you should look into. Facts are being distorted due to the potential of a court case.]]] |
I would add some of the facts outlined in the excellent My Final Heaven thread about our not so illustrious owners..
https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/swanseacity/forum/215104/page:5
Such a shame we sold out to these assholes. Why could we not have found someone who actually gives a shite about the club. |  |
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| Time for us to complain to BBC on 19:02 - Jan 2 with 3429 views | swanseajack4eva |
I would go for it SwanseaMan. The text allowed is quite generous but not unlimited. You make good points well and to get attention the volume of complaints matters as much as the content, provided the content is generally on the mark. | | | |
| Time for us to complain to BBC on 19:12 - Jan 2 with 3387 views | harryhpalmer |
you need to stick to the facts of where you see bias in the reporting (or not) of the facts:
the points made Jenkins and Davies articles show no evidence, and are not challenged. Info that IS in the public domain not used for the challenges.
Nor, before the articles are published, were those accused afforded to rebut the points made by the sellers.
the Trust article does not afford them a proper recourse of rebuttal on each point, as afforded to their accusers.
And since the Trust or Phil's statements were made, again there is no evidence that the BBC have gone back to Jenkins or Davies and asked to comment. | |
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| Time for us to complain to BBC on 19:17 - Jan 2 with 3370 views | Swanseaman |
| Time for us to complain to BBC on 19:12 - Jan 2 by harryhpalmer |
you need to stick to the facts of where you see bias in the reporting (or not) of the facts:
the points made Jenkins and Davies articles show no evidence, and are not challenged. Info that IS in the public domain not used for the challenges.
Nor, before the articles are published, were those accused afforded to rebut the points made by the sellers.
the Trust article does not afford them a proper recourse of rebuttal on each point, as afforded to their accusers.
And since the Trust or Phil's statements were made, again there is no evidence that the BBC have gone back to Jenkins or Davies and asked to comment. |
These are the facts I've included:
FACT: the shareholders who excluded the Trust from sale negotiations which caused the rift.
FACT: By the time the Trust were informed of the sale, it was so far advanced there was little they could do about it.
FACT: If the trust were aware of the sale to the Americans from the start, the sale may not have gone ahead.
FACT: Apart from being left out of the initial sale discussions, measures were put in place to reduce the trusts powers, and deals were made behind their backs.
FACT: Shareholders, knowingly went against the Trusts ethos, because it was the ONLY way to sell their shares and make their money. They excluded the Trust, bypassed the protection processes, and are now trying to discredit the trust.
FACT: Swansea City supporters were told the sale to the Americans would take us to the next level. This was not the case and was never going to be.
FACT: Why would the shareholders possibly want to sell to anyone who had absolutely no intentions of investing a penny into the club. The only people who would want that were the shareholders to gain profits for themselves. | |
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