| No loans coming in? 14:04 - Aug 30 with 34088 views | Swansea93 |
Potters press conference l
I counted today that our squad is about 27 or 28 players so from a numbers perspective I think we are okay. Injuries can affect you at any level and make starting XI different. I don’t see it is as light as you think. We will need a bit of luck we are okay numbers wise
If no-one else comes in, is it finances or football?
“It’s a bit of both, I would count around 27 or 28 players who have indicated they want to be here. That’s a lot of players and I have to take them down to 11 and there will be guys who will still be disappointed not to make the 18. I had a player in Sweden where I had a young player who was in Fourth Division in Sweden and went on to play against Arsenal in Europa League. It’s about development.” [Post edited 30 Aug 2018 14:12]
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| No loans coming in? on 17:30 - Aug 30 with 1997 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| No loans coming in? on 17:22 - Aug 30 by thornabyswan |
Yes he said the squad was unbalanced but was ok in numbers.
I am pretty sure Clement said the squad was unbalanced as well.
And I read something from Calvahal that stated that transfers were difficult.
They all moan after they have gone. [Post edited 30 Aug 2018 17:32]
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Carvahal said we struggled because of our position at the time. That’s understandable.
Unless there’s two arrivals tomorrow, DMF and striker, there are no excuses. It’s likely Narsingh, Dyer and Routs are off to further lower wage bill. |  | | |
| No loans coming in? on 17:32 - Aug 30 with 1978 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| No loans coming in? on 17:22 - Aug 30 by thornabyswan |
Yes he said the squad was unbalanced but was ok in numbers.
I am pretty sure Clement said the squad was unbalanced as well.
And I read something from Calvahal that stated that transfers were difficult.
They all moan after they have gone. [Post edited 30 Aug 2018 17:32]
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The side has been "unbalanced" in one way or another since Monk got rid of all the Spanish players. | | | |
| No loans coming in? on 17:33 - Aug 30 with 1969 views | trinityann |
Maybe Mr Potter was surprised by the high standards of the U-23's players after having more time to study the squad. | | | |
| No loans coming in? on 17:35 - Aug 30 with 1954 views | rob |
| No loans coming in? on 17:22 - Aug 30 by thornabyswan |
Yes he said the squad was unbalanced but was ok in numbers.
I am pretty sure Clement said the squad was unbalanced as well.
And I read something from Calvahal that stated that transfers were difficult.
They all moan after they have gone. [Post edited 30 Aug 2018 17:32]
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The squad that Potter has to pick his team from is an utter disgrace. Going into a long brutal season with a handful of experienced pros and the rest, kids, is far too risky.
Personally, I think we have been very, very lucky to have had the start that we have had. Truth is, we could go down this season. If you can't see that, you must be fing blind. |  | | |
| No loans coming in? on 17:38 - Aug 30 with 1933 views | thornabyswan |
| No loans coming in? on 17:35 - Aug 30 by rob |
The squad that Potter has to pick his team from is an utter disgrace. Going into a long brutal season with a handful of experienced pros and the rest, kids, is far too risky.
Personally, I think we have been very, very lucky to have had the start that we have had. Truth is, we could go down this season. If you can't see that, you must be fing blind. |
Why are you quoting me was just repeating what Potter said in his press conference. | |
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| No loans coming in? on 17:38 - Aug 30 with 1926 views | magicdaps10 |
He stated today that he is happy with numbers and then when asked about experience, he said that it is all about quality rather than age.
The question is, does he have the quality in the numbers he has?
There was the opening for the journos.
Reading back through his quotes, it is obvious he is not totally happy and is just keeping quiet about it to the media. |  |
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| No loans coming in? on 17:39 - Aug 30 with 1924 views | rob |
| No loans coming in? on 17:38 - Aug 30 by thornabyswan |
Why are you quoting me was just repeating what Potter said in his press conference. |
Sorry, pressed the wrong reply button :D ! | | | |
| No loans coming in? on 17:40 - Aug 30 with 1915 views | dobjack2 |
| No loans coming in? on 17:11 - Aug 30 by 34dfgdf54 |
This in spades.
As someone said above, he has said numerous times about his squad needing “support” in the way of transfers and loans, now all of a sudden it’s “oh I checked the numbers this morning and we are fine in terms of numbers in squad”
It’s all complete b*llocks |
Yep.
Careful with his words. He has enough players in the squad but the players that are playing in the first team need support.
In my book it means he would like to move some on and get others in. However as the moving on side isn’t going to happen neither is the coming in. It’s one out one in by the sounds of it with any in on lower wages than any out.
If we can see where the gaping holes are I’m sure that Potter is more than capable of knowing where the issues are. So if the current first team isn’t going to get the support that he would like what is he going to do? Exactly what he was brought here to do, work on the training pitch.
We may well see some players playing in unfamiliar roles if we have a run of injuries or players need a rest and the coaching team will be working on that on the training ground. | | | |
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| No loans coming in? on 17:54 - Aug 30 with 1844 views | GixerJack |
| No loans coming in? on 14:17 - Aug 30 by LeonWasGod |
We've certainly got the numbers if we drag bodies in from the development squad. Quality now is a whole different matter.
Good to see us focussing on development though rather than signing overpaid misfits. I think I'd rather this way round even if it could take a while to get up to speed. |
Someone posted a link to a radio interview that Pearlman gave a couple of weeks ago in which he said that we would be "looking from within", in my mind this comment confirmed that the intention was always to develop and promote the youngsters to the first team which will in turn further develop.
Some of these guys have been employed by the club for a number of years playing in the development teams in preparation for the step up to senior football, a season playing at this level will give a damned good measure of which ones we should be keeping for a serious attempt at promotion next season and which ones should be shipped out and replaced. |  | | |
| No loans coming in? on 18:01 - Aug 30 with 1800 views | angryjack |
| No loans coming in? on 17:54 - Aug 30 by GixerJack |
Someone posted a link to a radio interview that Pearlman gave a couple of weeks ago in which he said that we would be "looking from within", in my mind this comment confirmed that the intention was always to develop and promote the youngsters to the first team which will in turn further develop.
Some of these guys have been employed by the club for a number of years playing in the development teams in preparation for the step up to senior football, a season playing at this level will give a damned good measure of which ones we should be keeping for a serious attempt at promotion next season and which ones should be shipped out and replaced. |
Promotion from league 1 | | | |
| No loans coming in? on 18:01 - Aug 30 with 1794 views | thornabyswan |
| No loans coming in? on 17:40 - Aug 30 by dobjack2 |
Yep.
Careful with his words. He has enough players in the squad but the players that are playing in the first team need support.
In my book it means he would like to move some on and get others in. However as the moving on side isn’t going to happen neither is the coming in. It’s one out one in by the sounds of it with any in on lower wages than any out.
If we can see where the gaping holes are I’m sure that Potter is more than capable of knowing where the issues are. So if the current first team isn’t going to get the support that he would like what is he going to do? Exactly what he was brought here to do, work on the training pitch.
We may well see some players playing in unfamiliar roles if we have a run of injuries or players need a rest and the coaching team will be working on that on the training ground. |
Good post can't disagree with any of that.
We are very lucky to have Potter I just hope he isn't hung out to dry.
I do think we are in for a tough season unless he can solve the midfield conundrum as only Fer has impressed there to date. | |
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| No loans coming in? on 18:09 - Aug 30 with 1757 views | londonlisa2001 |
| No loans coming in? on 18:01 - Aug 30 by angryjack |
Promotion from league 1 |
People are so blasé about this division it’s unreal isn’t it?
‘Ah well, we’ll tread water and then go up.’
I imagine that’s what Sunderland thought as well.
Anyone that thinks Potter is doing anything other than putting a brave face on things is genuinely mad. And, I can only assume, hasn’t watched us this season.
Our weakness is plain for all to see. And that’s in the teams that have played, which are pretty much first choice, what on earth will we look like in November, with even an average amount of injuries.
If we don’t bring in the 2 or 3 we so desperately need, it’s an unforgivable disgrace. | | | |
| No loans coming in? on 18:13 - Aug 30 with 1733 views | Catullus |
| No loans coming in? on 18:01 - Aug 30 by thornabyswan |
Good post can't disagree with any of that.
We are very lucky to have Potter I just hope he isn't hung out to dry.
I do think we are in for a tough season unless he can solve the midfield conundrum as only Fer has impressed there to date. |
It all depends on what Potter was told and how much of it turned out to be BS. Then it will depend on how much more BS he can handle before he does a Mickey Adams. If Potter does quit we could be stuffed, we'll be lucky to attract Kevin Cullis the way things are. | |
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| No loans coming in? on 18:17 - Aug 30 with 1703 views | thornabyswan |
| No loans coming in? on 18:09 - Aug 30 by londonlisa2001 |
People are so blasé about this division it’s unreal isn’t it?
‘Ah well, we’ll tread water and then go up.’
I imagine that’s what Sunderland thought as well.
Anyone that thinks Potter is doing anything other than putting a brave face on things is genuinely mad. And, I can only assume, hasn’t watched us this season.
Our weakness is plain for all to see. And that’s in the teams that have played, which are pretty much first choice, what on earth will we look like in November, with even an average amount of injuries.
If we don’t bring in the 2 or 3 we so desperately need, it’s an unforgivable disgrace. |
Can I ask a question please as a Trust member.
Will they be getting access to the accounts to put minds at rest on here.
As I have lost count of the number of posters who have mentioned money going out of the club.
And what is your personal view of the way the club is being run if you don't want to answer no problem. [Post edited 30 Aug 2018 18:20]
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| No loans coming in? on 18:18 - Aug 30 with 1697 views | Flashberryjack |
| No loans coming in? on 18:13 - Aug 30 by Catullus |
It all depends on what Potter was told and how much of it turned out to be BS. Then it will depend on how much more BS he can handle before he does a Mickey Adams. If Potter does quit we could be stuffed, we'll be lucky to attract Kevin Cullis the way things are. |
Maybe Potter wasn't told bullsh*t, but the fans have been.
"hopefully 3 loans coming in" some f*cker's lying. |  |
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| No loans coming in? on 18:18 - Aug 30 with 1696 views | Fireboy2 |
| No loans coming in? on 18:09 - Aug 30 by londonlisa2001 |
People are so blasé about this division it’s unreal isn’t it?
‘Ah well, we’ll tread water and then go up.’
I imagine that’s what Sunderland thought as well.
Anyone that thinks Potter is doing anything other than putting a brave face on things is genuinely mad. And, I can only assume, hasn’t watched us this season.
Our weakness is plain for all to see. And that’s in the teams that have played, which are pretty much first choice, what on earth will we look like in November, with even an average amount of injuries.
If we don’t bring in the 2 or 3 we so desperately need, it’s an unforgivable disgrace. |
Spot on lisa
Im resigned to the fact that potter was lied to (like so many others) and they were never going to get any loans in to replace the expensive failures
They always had the intention of promoting from within even if it does send us down
The sooner these fvcking hedge fund cvnts are gone the better
Even if we are in league 2 |  | | |
| No loans coming in? on 18:22 - Aug 30 with 1658 views | awayjack |
| No loans coming in? on 18:09 - Aug 30 by londonlisa2001 |
People are so blasé about this division it’s unreal isn’t it?
‘Ah well, we’ll tread water and then go up.’
I imagine that’s what Sunderland thought as well.
Anyone that thinks Potter is doing anything other than putting a brave face on things is genuinely mad. And, I can only assume, hasn’t watched us this season.
Our weakness is plain for all to see. And that’s in the teams that have played, which are pretty much first choice, what on earth will we look like in November, with even an average amount of injuries.
If we don’t bring in the 2 or 3 we so desperately need, it’s an unforgivable disgrace. |
Agree. GP is paying lip service to his employers. He’s smart enough to see we’re 3-4 players short of a competive squad. It’s naive - no actually stupid - not to plan for injuries. Rodon and Roberts have already stepped up which is brilliant - but expect another 3-4 U23 to also step is just naive. This is a hugely competitive championship not league 1/2. |  | | |
| No loans coming in? on 18:25 - Aug 30 with 1642 views | jackrmee |
Swear we are in administration! |  |
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| No loans coming in? on 18:30 - Aug 30 with 1608 views | londonlisa2001 |
| No loans coming in? on 18:17 - Aug 30 by thornabyswan |
Can I ask a question please as a Trust member.
Will they be getting access to the accounts to put minds at rest on here.
As I have lost count of the number of posters who have mentioned money going out of the club.
And what is your personal view of the way the club is being run if you don't want to answer no problem. [Post edited 30 Aug 2018 18:20]
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The Trust does get access to accounts (management accounts).
They contain quite a lot of information (more detailed than the annual accounts) and so money leaving the club (in an asset stripping type way) would be spotted within relatively short order.
Also, the supporters director has regular meetings with the club’s FD at which questions can be raised. Questions are also raised and answered if any arise from review of the accounts.
We have asked a number of quite detailed questions about this transfer window and it’s effect on the financial position and currently await response. When response is received, we’d be better placed to answer the last bit of your post and update members accordingly.
In my personal view, there was an obvious need to reset the finances this season. High earners needed to be moved on and the financial gap between PL income and Championship income closed.
However, there was never the expectation that any reset would leave a threadbare or unbalanced squad. As at now, we have 24 hours or so to see if that’s the case. | | | |
| No loans coming in? on 18:31 - Aug 30 with 1599 views | Flashberryjack |
| No loans coming in? on 18:25 - Aug 30 by jackrmee |
Swear we are in administration! |
We will be before the yanks, sneaky beaky and the penny slotter f*ck off. | |
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| No loans coming in? on 18:32 - Aug 30 with 1591 views | Landore_Jack |
| No loans coming in? on 18:09 - Aug 30 by londonlisa2001 |
People are so blasé about this division it’s unreal isn’t it?
‘Ah well, we’ll tread water and then go up.’
I imagine that’s what Sunderland thought as well.
Anyone that thinks Potter is doing anything other than putting a brave face on things is genuinely mad. And, I can only assume, hasn’t watched us this season.
Our weakness is plain for all to see. And that’s in the teams that have played, which are pretty much first choice, what on earth will we look like in November, with even an average amount of injuries.
If we don’t bring in the 2 or 3 we so desperately need, it’s an unforgivable disgrace. |
Have the Trust spoke with the owners and Jenkins regarding new signings? |  |
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| No loans coming in? on 18:32 - Aug 30 with 1583 views | londonlisa2001 |
| No loans coming in? on 18:32 - Aug 30 by Landore_Jack |
Have the Trust spoke with the owners and Jenkins regarding new signings? |
Yes. | | | |
| No loans coming in? on 18:47 - Aug 30 with 1497 views | Fireboy2 |
And? | | | |
| No loans coming in? on 18:48 - Aug 30 with 1497 views | thornabyswan |
| No loans coming in? on 18:30 - Aug 30 by londonlisa2001 |
The Trust does get access to accounts (management accounts).
They contain quite a lot of information (more detailed than the annual accounts) and so money leaving the club (in an asset stripping type way) would be spotted within relatively short order.
Also, the supporters director has regular meetings with the club’s FD at which questions can be raised. Questions are also raised and answered if any arise from review of the accounts.
We have asked a number of quite detailed questions about this transfer window and it’s effect on the financial position and currently await response. When response is received, we’d be better placed to answer the last bit of your post and update members accordingly.
In my personal view, there was an obvious need to reset the finances this season. High earners needed to be moved on and the financial gap between PL income and Championship income closed.
However, there was never the expectation that any reset would leave a threadbare or unbalanced squad. As at now, we have 24 hours or so to see if that’s the case. |
Thanks for the reply my view is unless anybody goes out nobody will come in.
Which when you consider the number of players who have already gone is shocking really.
Especially after Pearlman indicated he would be surprised if there were no incomings.
They are taking the pi$$ out of everyone. | |
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