Hampshire's greatest footballers 14:53 - Dec 20 with 27470 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup | Updated full list. Some very good players here. Of course Portsmouth gets the lions' share, but Southampton is a good second. I imagine that there is little dispute in this list, if we are basing it on facts and not bias. 1- 10 Top Draw Portsmouth : Von Donop : Hampshire’s first ever superstar Soton : Ted Drake : Good scoring rate, right time, right place Portsmouth : Reg Flewin : One of only 6 captains to win post war back to back championships Portsmouth : Peter Harris : Probably the highest ever scoring winger in England. Champion Alton: Jimmy Dickinson : Mr consistency for club and country. Champion Aldershot: Johnny Berry : In terms of trophies, tops the list. Champion Portsmouth : Ray Crawford : Scored the goals to give Ipswich the Championship Farnham : Peter Storey : Probably Hampshire’s hardest footballer, champion and serial winner Greater Portsmouth : Bobby Tambling : In Chelsea’s greatest ever team. Impressive scoring rate Portsmouth : Alex Chamberlain : Only player to win Europe’s highest accolade 10 — 20 : Excellent Players New Alresford : Sir Christopher Rawlinson Botley : Don Roper Soton : Tom Parker Greater Portsmouth : George Lilycrop Portsmouth : Johnny Gordon Winchester : Terry Paine Soton : Martin Chivers Portsmouth : Steve Foster Soton : Darren Anderton Winchester : Wayne Bridge 20 — 30 : Very good players New Forest : Frank Jefferis Soton : Peter Sillett Aldershot : Bruce Rioch Soton : Nick Holmes New Forest : Kevin Reeves Soton : Graham Roberts Bournemouth : Paul Rideout Greater Portsmouth : Kevin Pressman New Forest : Jamie Redknapp Basingstoke : Tom Cleverley 30 — 40 : Solid players Farnborough : John Mortimore Portsmouth : Phil Gunter Portsmouth : Malcolm Waldron Portsmouth : Bobby Stokes Soton : Francis Benali Romsey : Nigel Spackman Portsmouth : Daryl Powell Portsmouth Joel Ward Portsmouth : James Ward Prowse Portsmouth : Mason Mount 40 — 50 : Dependable players Greater Portsmouth : Albert Mundy Soton : John Sillett Hartley Wintney : Archie turner Portsmouth : David Jones Winchester : Steve Guppy Portsmouth : Steve Claridge Basingstoke : Kit Symons New Forest : Sam Vokes Greater Portsmouth : Matt Ritchie Petersfield : Calum Chambers Final Tally : Ports 21 Soton 9 NF 4, Winch 3, Aldershot 2, Basingstoke 2 Alton, Farnham, Botley, New Alresford, Farnborough, Bournemouth, Romsey, Petersfield, Hartley Wintney [Post edited 20 Dec 2019 15:48]
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 14:24 - Mar 3 with 1582 views | this_charming_man |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 14:06 - Mar 3 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup | Several, but you won't or can't name them!!. I've already said I will update the list, and mentioned a couple that need adding. The only other real omission is Jim Goodchild. The fact that that you know who some of the omissions are means that you have been studying this, even though you won't admit it. I admire your never give up spirit. And don't forget these arguments have been going on within this site for some while, and not always driven by me. I just challenge the sites somewhat predictable narrative, but have clearly shown most of the players at the top of the tree are from the Pompey area. |
Not really, i just saw the list and within about 30 seconds saw a number of Southampton based ommisions. Its your list and you're point you are proving so the burden of proof is on you. As things stand your list is subjective, very inaccurate, a number of omissions so not credible. Sorry about that. | |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 14:52 - Mar 3 with 1558 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 14:24 - Mar 3 by this_charming_man | Not really, i just saw the list and within about 30 seconds saw a number of Southampton based ommisions. Its your list and you're point you are proving so the burden of proof is on you. As things stand your list is subjective, very inaccurate, a number of omissions so not credible. Sorry about that. |
Oh yes, your 30 second list. Elliott (38 PL apps), Jutkiewicz (28 PL apps) And Brian Howard who has 0 PL appearances, and is from Winchester | |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 14:54 - Mar 3 with 1556 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup | Brian Howard | |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 15:48 - Mar 3 with 1534 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 15:43 - Mar 3 by this_charming_man | There are other too. However the fact remains that a Hampshire born player with 1 bottom tier professional appearance in his career is more valid a member of your elite Hampshire players list than a player with 1000 international caps that isn't from Hampshire. Sorry about that. [Post edited 3 Mar 2020 15:45]
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Brian Howard is just so funny. Have a nice cup of tea fella, and try to forget about it. | |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 15:54 - Mar 3 with 1528 views | this_charming_man |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 15:48 - Mar 3 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup | Brian Howard is just so funny. Have a nice cup of tea fella, and try to forget about it. |
Not as funny as including players who are not from Hampshire in a list of Hampshire footballers Try and forget about it. | |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 16:33 - Mar 3 with 1516 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 15:54 - Mar 3 by this_charming_man | Not as funny as including players who are not from Hampshire in a list of Hampshire footballers Try and forget about it. |
Peter Storey lived in Ash, and Ash is within the Aldershot Urban area. Aldershot is in Hampshire Peter Storey also went to school in the Ash area ie now Ash manor School, also situated in the Aldershot urban area. Peter Storey lived and was schooled in a Hampshire urban area. | |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 17:11 - Mar 3 with 1505 views | this_charming_man |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 16:33 - Mar 3 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup | Peter Storey lived in Ash, and Ash is within the Aldershot Urban area. Aldershot is in Hampshire Peter Storey also went to school in the Ash area ie now Ash manor School, also situated in the Aldershot urban area. Peter Storey lived and was schooled in a Hampshire urban area. |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ash,_Surrey Own goal. | |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 17:21 - Mar 3 with 1491 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
From your page "It is within the Aldershot Urban Area" | |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 17:23 - Mar 3 with 1489 views | this_charming_man |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 17:21 - Mar 3 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup | From your page "It is within the Aldershot Urban Area" |
Which part of Shire county Surrey Make it part of Hampshire? | |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 17:27 - Mar 3 with 1480 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 17:23 - Mar 3 by this_charming_man | Which part of Shire county Surrey Make it part of Hampshire? |
Which part of Aldershot isn't in Hampshire? and btw lots of local Hampshire facilities/ centres are in Farnham. Whys is that? | |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 17:45 - Mar 3 with 1465 views | this_charming_man |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 17:38 - Mar 3 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup | Who is the best footballer from Hampshire? 1. Brian Howard from Southampton, well actually Winchester with Zero top flight appearances 2. Peter Storey who was born in a Surrey hospital, but schooled and lived in a Hampshire urban area, then played almost 400 games for Arsenal and 19 for England. Difficult I know |
1 Brian Howard Peter Storey isn't from Hampshire. He was born in Surrey and raised in Surrey. If the question was "who is the better the footballer?" Then clearly the answer would be different. Sorry about that. Can you please remove him from your list along with the other players you've included who aren't from Hampshire. You need to work with me here 130, i'm trying the help your list be more credible and factual. | |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 18:25 - Mar 3 with 1444 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 17:45 - Mar 3 by this_charming_man | 1 Brian Howard Peter Storey isn't from Hampshire. He was born in Surrey and raised in Surrey. If the question was "who is the better the footballer?" Then clearly the answer would be different. Sorry about that. Can you please remove him from your list along with the other players you've included who aren't from Hampshire. You need to work with me here 130, i'm trying the help your list be more credible and factual. |
The problem is that you have brought up a website that clearly states Ash is part of the Aldershot urban area, Also, his school merged with the Robert Haining school in Mytchett, and what does your sister site say about Mytchett? "Mytchett forms an eastern flank of the Farnborough/Aldershot Built-up Area, a conurbation straddling a small part of the two counties mentioned (Surrey and Hampshire) and Berkshire" It would seem that kids going to Ash Manor school will be even more confused than previously, as they will be additionally mixing with kids from a town that 'straddles' Hampshire and Surrey as well as being brought up in a town that is part of an urban area of a famous Hampshire town. | |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 18:36 - Mar 3 with 1439 views | this_charming_man |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 18:25 - Mar 3 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup | The problem is that you have brought up a website that clearly states Ash is part of the Aldershot urban area, Also, his school merged with the Robert Haining school in Mytchett, and what does your sister site say about Mytchett? "Mytchett forms an eastern flank of the Farnborough/Aldershot Built-up Area, a conurbation straddling a small part of the two counties mentioned (Surrey and Hampshire) and Berkshire" It would seem that kids going to Ash Manor school will be even more confused than previously, as they will be additionally mixing with kids from a town that 'straddles' Hampshire and Surrey as well as being brought up in a town that is part of an urban area of a famous Hampshire town. |
There isnt a problem. Which county, not urban area but county, as per the title of your thread is Peter Storey from? | |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 18:53 - Mar 3 with 1417 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 18:36 - Mar 3 by this_charming_man | There isnt a problem. Which county, not urban area but county, as per the title of your thread is Peter Storey from? |
The problem is that removing Storey from the list allows you to get another Soton lad into the top echelon of Hampshire players like Anderton, Chivers or Parker (all fine players btw). Portsmuthians aren’t worried about this of course, because they already have 5 lads in the top bunch with another Portsmouth Urban area lad additionally included. Storey would have certainly felt like a Hampshire lad, I guess the fairest way would be to ask him. | |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 18:54 - Mar 3 with 1418 views | this_charming_man |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 18:53 - Mar 3 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup | The problem is that removing Storey from the list allows you to get another Soton lad into the top echelon of Hampshire players like Anderton, Chivers or Parker (all fine players btw). Portsmuthians aren’t worried about this of course, because they already have 5 lads in the top bunch with another Portsmouth Urban area lad additionally included. Storey would have certainly felt like a Hampshire lad, I guess the fairest way would be to ask him. |
Why don’t you answer the question, you’re not usually so evasive Which county is he from? | |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 19:01 - Mar 3 with 1415 views | Butty101 |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 18:53 - Mar 3 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup | The problem is that removing Storey from the list allows you to get another Soton lad into the top echelon of Hampshire players like Anderton, Chivers or Parker (all fine players btw). Portsmuthians aren’t worried about this of course, because they already have 5 lads in the top bunch with another Portsmouth Urban area lad additionally included. Storey would have certainly felt like a Hampshire lad, I guess the fairest way would be to ask him. |
Don’t forget to rename the greater Portsmouth players as well. | |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 19:07 - Mar 3 with 1408 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 18:54 - Mar 3 by this_charming_man | Why don’t you answer the question, you’re not usually so evasive Which county is he from? |
The problem is that you want it all to be nice and tidy, it isn't always so is it? Check out Lallana and Paul Rideout. You could easily make a claim that Lallana is essentially a Hampshire lad. Check out the history of Ash. "The making of Aldershot Camp has revolutionized the whole of this neighbourhood. The camp itself is in Hampshire, but ranges have been established in Ash parish, and houses in connexion with the camp have turned what were desolate heaths into a succession of straggling villages or even towns. Henley Park (q.v.) lies on the other side of the parish. It is one of the numerous parks formed in the Surrey bailiwick of Windsor Forest. Cobbett, the famous political and social reformer, farmed land at Normandy in this parish". So, it appears that all those villages in Surrey were villages that sprouted out because of the growth of the Army Camp. ie a lot of those people had Aldershot employment connections, but presumably Surrey didn't want to let the land go to Hampshire, so allowed the hamlets and villages to form part of the Hants Urban area, although remaining in Surrey. No spin here, just facts. | |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 19:11 - Mar 3 with 1408 views | this_charming_man |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 19:07 - Mar 3 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup | The problem is that you want it all to be nice and tidy, it isn't always so is it? Check out Lallana and Paul Rideout. You could easily make a claim that Lallana is essentially a Hampshire lad. Check out the history of Ash. "The making of Aldershot Camp has revolutionized the whole of this neighbourhood. The camp itself is in Hampshire, but ranges have been established in Ash parish, and houses in connexion with the camp have turned what were desolate heaths into a succession of straggling villages or even towns. Henley Park (q.v.) lies on the other side of the parish. It is one of the numerous parks formed in the Surrey bailiwick of Windsor Forest. Cobbett, the famous political and social reformer, farmed land at Normandy in this parish". So, it appears that all those villages in Surrey were villages that sprouted out because of the growth of the Army Camp. ie a lot of those people had Aldershot employment connections, but presumably Surrey didn't want to let the land go to Hampshire, so allowed the hamlets and villages to form part of the Hants Urban area, although remaining in Surrey. No spin here, just facts. |
“So it appear all these villages in Surrey” God that what hard work, but we got there in the end. Can you remove Storey from The list please now you’ve confirmed he’s got nothing to do with Hampshire Thanks x | |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 19:16 - Mar 3 with 1397 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 19:11 - Mar 3 by this_charming_man | “So it appear all these villages in Surrey” God that what hard work, but we got there in the end. Can you remove Storey from The list please now you’ve confirmed he’s got nothing to do with Hampshire Thanks x |
Is Aldershot in Hampshire Yes or No? Is Ash part of the Aldershot urban area Yes or No? Just accept it's an anomaly, and if you know anything about the area, ie North Camp and surrounding, it's viewed as a bit of a dump, and presumably Surrey CC were quite happy for Aldershot to control the area and it's people. | |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 19:19 - Mar 3 with 1392 views | this_charming_man |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 19:16 - Mar 3 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup | Is Aldershot in Hampshire Yes or No? Is Ash part of the Aldershot urban area Yes or No? Just accept it's an anomaly, and if you know anything about the area, ie North Camp and surrounding, it's viewed as a bit of a dump, and presumably Surrey CC were quite happy for Aldershot to control the area and it's people. |
Is the title of this thead Hampshire greatest footballers? Yes or no Was peter Storey from ash? Yes or no Is ash a village in Surrey? yes or no? [Post edited 3 Mar 2020 19:20]
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 19:24 - Mar 3 with 1381 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 19:19 - Mar 3 by this_charming_man | Is the title of this thead Hampshire greatest footballers? Yes or no Was peter Storey from ash? Yes or no Is ash a village in Surrey? yes or no? [Post edited 3 Mar 2020 19:20]
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Is Surman from Hampshire Y or N? Rideout from Hants Y or N? Tambling from Hants Y or N? Is Bridge or Vokes from Southampton Y or N? You obviously don't get how badly North Camp is perceived locally | |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 19:27 - Mar 3 with 1378 views | this_charming_man |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 19:24 - Mar 3 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup | Is Surman from Hampshire Y or N? Rideout from Hants Y or N? Tambling from Hants Y or N? Is Bridge or Vokes from Southampton Y or N? You obviously don't get how badly North Camp is perceived locally |
You’re tragic. Although I’ve enjoyed your research of schools in Mychett and army camps in hants and Surrey today to desperately try and fail to prove your point. It’s just a shame that every day your precious thread gets ever more laughable. Enjoy your evening. | |
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