| #LetFansIn on 16:24 - Oct 6 with 1943 views | andrew |
| #LetFansIn on 13:21 - Oct 6 by jasper_T |
It's a public safety issue, not a personal safety issue.
Restrictions should be stronger, not looser. |
“There is no evidence that this virus is being transmitted outdoors”
Mark Drakeford |  |
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| #LetFansIn on 16:38 - Oct 6 with 1935 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| #LetFansIn on 16:24 - Oct 6 by andrew |
“There is no evidence that this virus is being transmitted outdoors”
Mark Drakeford |
We should have this fully tested by now. Open the stadiums take names and addressess track and trace and see what happens. |  |
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| #LetFansIn on 16:41 - Oct 6 with 1934 views | Catullus |
| #LetFansIn on 14:48 - Oct 6 by Jack_Kass |
Obviously I don't have the exact details of how the seating plan at the Liberty would be treated in comparison, there are probably all kinds of risk averse options.
But the point remains that if a cinema, shopping centre, or restaurant is allowed to operate to guidelines given to them, then why shouldn't a football club at least be allowed to attempt the same? Instead of being outright restricted.
It's a character assassination on the supporters, simple as, which sadly some posts in this thread are clear evidence of [Post edited 6 Oct 2020 14:49]
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Character assasination on the supporters? No, it's character assasination of the human race because we are stupid, too many people can't or won't obey the rules, given some alcohol the number increases.
People can't maintain distancing in local shops and pubs, people refuse to wear masks.
PS, while it hasn't happened in recent memory (since we moved to the Liberty) getting a golden shower or a vomit pack was a regular down the Vetch. You couldn't even walk into the North Bank toilets some days without being an inch deep in "water" and I saw people throwing up in the turnstyles often enough. At the Liberty people rarely washed their hands and I'm as guilty as anyone there. | |
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| #LetFansIn on 16:41 - Oct 6 with 1931 views | Andyconky |
Signed |  |
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| #LetFansIn on 16:59 - Oct 6 with 1919 views | onehunglow |
Old jack threw up all over us at Pride Park.Nice chap though | |
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| #LetFansIn on 17:31 - Oct 6 with 1907 views | Jack_Kass |
| #LetFansIn on 16:59 - Oct 6 by onehunglow |
Old jack threw up all over us at Pride Park.Nice chap though |
An incident that can only be compared to the Hull game, in terms of seemingly impossible attendance
We must have taken something close to 25,000 that day , with OldJack spraying the ground like a loose, vomit fueled hosepipe | |
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| #LetFansIn on 17:54 - Oct 6 with 1881 views | AndyCole |
Would be far more comfortable going to the Liberty than the local Lidl.
Ridiculous that stadia are treated differently to some of these hot sweaty cramped aisles with the great unwashed up close and personal. | |
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| #LetFansIn on 18:29 - Oct 6 with 1872 views | Andy1300 |
| #LetFansIn on 13:41 - Oct 6 by Badlands |
You may feel you have the right to attend but then people outside have the right to expect you to stay away from them and possibly pass on a life threatening and debilitation virus. When the self employed have to self isolate that's two weeks without working or earning.
We are really living in a world where minorities can shout I wanted expect to be given. |
So I guess those people would be careful about where they went and would shield themselves from danger, just as they have been doing for years |  |
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| #LetFansIn on 18:41 - Oct 6 with 1862 views | Jack_Kass |
68k!
[Post edited 6 Oct 2020 18:45]
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| #LetFansIn on 19:04 - Oct 6 with 1847 views | KeithHaynes |
| #LetFansIn on 18:41 - Oct 6 by Jack_Kass |
68k!
[Post edited 6 Oct 2020 18:45]
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There has time when fans are allowed back in a strategic way, there also has to be a way that those who don’t want to go don’t feel alienated. But like running this website. |  |
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| #LetFansIn on 19:34 - Oct 6 with 1827 views | Oldjack |
| #LetFansIn on 15:54 - Oct 6 by Jack_Kass |
13k when I posted
Up to 24k now
Plenty do agree
And plenty see that the hypocrisy has to be stopped, you can't allow certain industries to work to guidelines, and others not.
The majority of other business have been allowed to return to customer interaction in some capacity. |
never gonna happen any time soon |  |
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| #LetFansIn on 19:39 - Oct 6 with 1819 views | KeithHaynes |
| #LetFansIn on 19:34 - Oct 6 by Oldjack |
never gonna happen any time soon |
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| #LetFansIn on 19:48 - Oct 6 with 1812 views | Jack_Kass |
| #LetFansIn on 19:34 - Oct 6 by Oldjack |
never gonna happen any time soon |
85k in a days work.
Keep the faith.
All we can do is highlight the inaccuracies and unfair treatment.
As things stand, there is no reason why football grounds shouldn't be treated the same as pubs, restaurants etc
Whether they should be open is another debate entirely, but they are, so what is fair for one, is fair for another. [Post edited 6 Oct 2020 19:49]
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| #LetFansIn on 19:56 - Oct 6 with 1805 views | Neath_Jack |
Not for me, let's see where we are in December. |  |
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| #LetFansIn on 21:06 - Oct 6 with 1788 views | Jack_Kass |
And we are officially over the line with 105k.
Let's see if it makes it into debate at the HOP | |
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| #LetFansIn on 21:07 - Oct 6 with 1787 views | builthjack |
Not signed |  |
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| #LetFansIn on 21:31 - Oct 6 with 1771 views | Scotia |
Stadiums could open safely. Without a doubt.
Close the bars, no loitering in the concourse, social distancing in the queue, no turnstiles, minimise people in the bogs, masks worn and seat people as an absolute minimum of 2 metres apart (or even 4 metres just to be certain for starters) .
Any clubs not putting in the measures are back to playing behind closed doors instantly and if similar happens again points are docked.
If we don't think slightly out of the box we are going to have no crowds at all until 21/22.
Nearby pubs and public transport would be a problem too so would need strict monitoring. | | | |
| #LetFansIn on 21:32 - Oct 6 with 1766 views | KeithHaynes |
| #LetFansIn on 21:31 - Oct 6 by Scotia |
Stadiums could open safely. Without a doubt.
Close the bars, no loitering in the concourse, social distancing in the queue, no turnstiles, minimise people in the bogs, masks worn and seat people as an absolute minimum of 2 metres apart (or even 4 metres just to be certain for starters) .
Any clubs not putting in the measures are back to playing behind closed doors instantly and if similar happens again points are docked.
If we don't think slightly out of the box we are going to have no crowds at all until 21/22.
Nearby pubs and public transport would be a problem too so would need strict monitoring. |
Your last point cracks it. That’s the problem. | |
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| #LetFansIn on 09:21 - Oct 7 with 1704 views | Vincent_Vega |
| #LetFansIn on 21:31 - Oct 6 by Scotia |
Stadiums could open safely. Without a doubt.
Close the bars, no loitering in the concourse, social distancing in the queue, no turnstiles, minimise people in the bogs, masks worn and seat people as an absolute minimum of 2 metres apart (or even 4 metres just to be certain for starters) .
Any clubs not putting in the measures are back to playing behind closed doors instantly and if similar happens again points are docked.
If we don't think slightly out of the box we are going to have no crowds at all until 21/22.
Nearby pubs and public transport would be a problem too so would need strict monitoring. |
Never going to happen, using the Swans as an example. It would cost the club more to let fans in under those conditions than just leaving the doors closed. The club have our season ticket money. No money made by the bars, concourse and the bogs are too small in 3 of the stands and I'd question the west too in regards to Social distancing even at 25% capacity. Also you'd have to employ extra staff to enforce these new rules again adding to cost.
Agree if you have to wait until Covid goes then yeah no crowds this season, what clubs outside the prem can survive that?
Oh and good luck enforcing new covid rules in pubs on matchday, landlords/ladies and bar staff are taking a pasting off punters now imagine 1000's of footy fans?
Either open all up no restrictions like before and chance it or keep as we are for the next 18 months to 2 years. There is no alternative and bear in mind the majority of the 72 cannot afford that. |  |
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| #LetFansIn on 10:34 - Oct 7 with 1690 views | onehunglow |
VV.
It simply boils down to the fact we have a nation of tossers who cannot or willnot comply with advice thinking they they either know better or cant be arsed-a national disease in itself.
We are a nation where 10 pm is too early to stop drinking alcohol.In fact politicians,TORY ones at that rebel against their own Govt at the closure time.No doubt concerned for chums in the drinks/gaming industry. It shows what we are about. This is seen as an infringement on liberty .
Look no further than our own stupidity. | |
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| #LetFansIn on 11:00 - Oct 7 with 1677 views | Scotia |
| #LetFansIn on 09:21 - Oct 7 by Vincent_Vega |
Never going to happen, using the Swans as an example. It would cost the club more to let fans in under those conditions than just leaving the doors closed. The club have our season ticket money. No money made by the bars, concourse and the bogs are too small in 3 of the stands and I'd question the west too in regards to Social distancing even at 25% capacity. Also you'd have to employ extra staff to enforce these new rules again adding to cost.
Agree if you have to wait until Covid goes then yeah no crowds this season, what clubs outside the prem can survive that?
Oh and good luck enforcing new covid rules in pubs on matchday, landlords/ladies and bar staff are taking a pasting off punters now imagine 1000's of footy fans?
Either open all up no restrictions like before and chance it or keep as we are for the next 18 months to 2 years. There is no alternative and bear in mind the majority of the 72 cannot afford that. |
I agree and understand it is difficult that is why I haven't and won't sign the petition. I wouldn't go under those conditions but it is those conditions or nothing, because we can't open up as we were. Those condiditons are safe - are they workable for the Swans? Probably not but for other clubs they may be.
For example I reckon the Ospreys could easily let 50% of their season ticket holders in to each game, that would probably be about 3500 people.
Ultimately a lot of football clubs will go under, and I can see the 72 dwindling to something like 50 by next season.
Same goes for the pubs, I'm a member of the Landore club they rely heavily on Swans match days, they will struggle financially this year. Could they afford to only allow members in on a match day? Probably not but it may be better than nothing.
It's probably not the seating in the stadium that is the major issue but the pubs, concourses, trains and buses that are the problem. | | | |
| #LetFansIn on 12:29 - Oct 7 with 1651 views | MrSwerve |
Letting 5k+ fans into a stadium of any size simply isn't going to happen, regardless of how easy it is to socially distance people in the stands.
As has already been said, you've got to think about the thousands extra using public transport, pubs, restaurants, etc.
Whether we like it or not, football fans have the tendency to have plenty of alcohol before/with/after the game and this is where social distancing is breaking down. There'll also be idiots travelling to the stadium/nearby pubs even though they can't get in.
It's a bigger problem than the actual match/stadium itself. However many thousands sign that petition, it's still a tiny amount compared to how many football fans there are. |  |
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| #LetFansIn on 13:08 - Oct 7 with 1644 views | onehunglow |
Sadly,we are all victims of a drinking culture the genesis of which was in our glory industrial days when heavy drinking/replacement of fluid was considered normal-as was of course the wife battering as a result which went unpunished. | |
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| #LetFansIn on 15:02 - Oct 7 with 1627 views | Whiterockin |
Anyone who thinks a couple of thousand in the Liberty is a good idea, has forgotten those miserable mid week cup games freezing cold and no atmosphere. |  | | |
| #LetFansIn on 15:42 - Oct 7 with 1616 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Play at lunchtime with about 2000 to start with. Toilets stewarded with maximum 5 people. Sanatiser used on entrance and exit. No food or drink on sale. Wear masks and bring a 60s style rattle instead ouf shouting.
Cold packed lunch including sandwiches and soft drink pre ordered and collected on concourse for collection on arrival. Pre booked seat numbers.
Risk level very low. | |
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