| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 18:04 - Oct 24 with 2130 views | Swans9 |
Mad QPR look like Spain there fans thought it was Christmas. If no reaction next week we will slip out of the play offs without a fight. Now we see if team has got heart. |  | |  |
| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 18:07 - Oct 24 with 2097 views | 3swan |
I was just trying to put my thoughts into words
Luckily I don't have to.
The report is word perfect | | | |
| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 18:30 - Oct 24 with 1937 views | onehunglow |
That’s as great a demolition as I’ve seen and it’s very concerning
Positives say we will dust ourselves down and thrash Blackburn which is of course warlocks
Matos is very likeable but football changes dramatically
He must make significant changes
Why loan Parente and not play him
He can’t be a worse defender than Tymon
Seelt should replace Cabango
Just needs to be kept out of squad and loaned out in January and it makes Walta extract more puzzling
Widdell is a lovely likeable lad but he’s not learning as he should
We are still apparently passing Martin style for the sake of it
Mowbray is a real fox and his team are next up
He was the type of manager we should have employed , ie a proven operator at this level
But, it’s gone and it’s down to Mator to put it right | |
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| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 18:52 - Oct 24 with 1868 views | max936 |
I think both Seelt and Stewart need starts, Just needs to find some confidence, its obvious that he can be more than decent, but it has to be said that he's been poor, game to fast to physical for him at the moment I don't know, but he needs people around him to help him to improve his confidence, not scapegoating for todays debacle of course, Welsh, Cabango Stamenic or Tymon didn't turnup today, Vig needs to watch that penalty again over and over and not make a challenge like that again.
Game over and move on, there'll be enough post mortems carried out at Fairwood this week without doubt. [Post edited 24 Oct 19:00]
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| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 19:02 - Oct 24 with 1829 views | KeithHaynes |
| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 18:07 - Oct 24 by 3swan |
I was just trying to put my thoughts into words
Luckily I don't have to.
The report is word perfect |
Liam will be pleased to read that. |  |
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| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 19:04 - Oct 24 with 1816 views | KeithHaynes |
| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 18:52 - Oct 24 by max936 |
I think both Seelt and Stewart need starts, Just needs to find some confidence, its obvious that he can be more than decent, but it has to be said that he's been poor, game to fast to physical for him at the moment I don't know, but he needs people around him to help him to improve his confidence, not scapegoating for todays debacle of course, Welsh, Cabango Stamenic or Tymon didn't turnup today, Vig needs to watch that penalty again over and over and not make a challenge like that again.
Game over and move on, there'll be enough post mortems carried out at Fairwood this week without doubt. [Post edited 24 Oct 19:00]
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I still believe that Stewart starting would give us something. | |
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| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 19:10 - Oct 24 with 1743 views | onehunglow |
| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 18:52 - Oct 24 by max936 |
I think both Seelt and Stewart need starts, Just needs to find some confidence, its obvious that he can be more than decent, but it has to be said that he's been poor, game to fast to physical for him at the moment I don't know, but he needs people around him to help him to improve his confidence, not scapegoating for todays debacle of course, Welsh, Cabango Stamenic or Tymon didn't turnup today, Vig needs to watch that penalty again over and over and not make a challenge like that again.
Game over and move on, there'll be enough post mortems carried out at Fairwood this week without doubt. [Post edited 24 Oct 19:00]
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| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 19:20 - Oct 24 with 1733 views | max936 |
| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 19:04 - Oct 24 by KeithHaynes |
I still believe that Stewart starting would give us something. |
In defence and attack for me, plus he's natural goal scorer, I can only assume that he was kept on the bench today cause he still carrying a niggle or two. | | | |
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| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 19:30 - Oct 24 with 1670 views | PawelAbbott |
There was a large piece on the BBC last week about Matos' tactics.
Since the West have lost 2 game 0 - 6.
I can see the merit in doing these interviews after 40 games with promotion secured.
But after 10 games we have won nothing. Why go in and boast about your tactics 10 games into a season?? | | | |
| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 19:33 - Oct 24 with 1659 views | Dr_Winston |
| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 19:30 - Oct 24 by PawelAbbott |
There was a large piece on the BBC last week about Matos' tactics.
Since the West have lost 2 game 0 - 6.
I can see the merit in doing these interviews after 40 games with promotion secured.
But after 10 games we have won nothing. Why go in and boast about your tactics 10 games into a season?? |
The scale of the defeat may be surprising, but the defeat itself is not. As I've said elsewhere, despite us turning over the lesser teams we've faced, we generally come up wanting in the games that matter. We've not spent the money we have to get turned over so easily by the better sides.
Clean sheets and goals against Watford and Derby are all well and good. Clean sheets and goals against West Ham matter more.
We have to start doing better against the sides in the higher reaches of the table. We can't keep writing off poor results as a one off when in reality they're beginning to point to larger issues with our play. We can't keep picking the same teams and players and expecting different outcomes. |  |
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| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 19:46 - Oct 24 with 1591 views | swancity |
A bad day at the office but although a concerning scoreline it was not a 5-0 game. So there’s a need for perspective as always.
Rarely will a team only have 12 goal attempts and score 5. We defended badly at crucial moments and also conceded an unnecessary penalty. We had some good chances within our 8/9 goal attempts and should have scored two or three of them. At least. Widell being the main culprit. As bad as we were today defensively the scoreline did not reflect the 90 minutes where we also had more of the ball. In key moments though that was a bad showing.
Clearly we are not automatic promotion contenders and that our reasonable goal is a play off place and that would be seen as a superb achievement
It’s only one game today just three points lost. They will learn from it. Possibly they were believing the hype. When that happens you can get casual. And sloppy. In big moments and today was one of those. We will be back. Keep calm chaps. We have a lot of good players in the squad. They will be hurting but that wasn’t as bad as the scoreline might suggest. Nowhere near it. | |
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| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 20:18 - Oct 24 with 1457 views | Fireboy2 |
| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 19:46 - Oct 24 by swancity |
A bad day at the office but although a concerning scoreline it was not a 5-0 game. So there’s a need for perspective as always.
Rarely will a team only have 12 goal attempts and score 5. We defended badly at crucial moments and also conceded an unnecessary penalty. We had some good chances within our 8/9 goal attempts and should have scored two or three of them. At least. Widell being the main culprit. As bad as we were today defensively the scoreline did not reflect the 90 minutes where we also had more of the ball. In key moments though that was a bad showing.
Clearly we are not automatic promotion contenders and that our reasonable goal is a play off place and that would be seen as a superb achievement
It’s only one game today just three points lost. They will learn from it. Possibly they were believing the hype. When that happens you can get casual. And sloppy. In big moments and today was one of those. We will be back. Keep calm chaps. We have a lot of good players in the squad. They will be hurting but that wasn’t as bad as the scoreline might suggest. Nowhere near it. |
I have drawn a line under it, I too think that they believe the hype, i honestly believe that they think that they are better than they really are but i think that this result will do us the world of good, Blackburn are a good side now Mowbray is back, we have to hit them early and hard, I think will kick the fcuk out of them. |  | | |
| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 21:16 - Oct 24 with 1271 views | swan65split |
Bad dauy all around for everyone, players, tactics , hard work and head search reqd.
i had a poor stream for the first 30 mins or so, dropping in and out , and I missed the 2nd goal, but to me it looked like we were playing 3 at the back leaving space and gaps everywhere, players for 2 of the goals were static and not challenging .
They were up for it, as their kick off showed, wanted it more, they had done their homework, us? |  | | |
| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 21:25 - Oct 24 with 1239 views | Whiterockin |
Does today put an end to the myth that we are better when teams come at us. |  | | |
| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 21:41 - Oct 24 with 1187 views | max936 |
| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 21:25 - Oct 24 by Whiterockin |
Does today put an end to the myth that we are better when teams come at us. |
Not sure that you can make any judgement on that question after today, we were 3 down after 15mins, slow out of the blocks perhaps away from home at an intimidating ground and the weather bad, I think that all takes it toll, we have had a target on our backs after our start to the season and they had a start that dreams are made of and we really couldn't change our fortunes, we had chances but couldn't finish them on another day etc. | | | |
| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 21:47 - Oct 24 with 1172 views | union_jack |
| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 21:41 - Oct 24 by max936 |
Not sure that you can make any judgement on that question after today, we were 3 down after 15mins, slow out of the blocks perhaps away from home at an intimidating ground and the weather bad, I think that all takes it toll, we have had a target on our backs after our start to the season and they had a start that dreams are made of and we really couldn't change our fortunes, we had chances but couldn't finish them on another day etc. |
I’m still waiting for this ‘other day’ because not taking our chances has been the story of our season so far. Up until last week we’d done enough but the last 2 games have highlighted the need for us to be more composed and clinical in front of goal.
If Idah had scored at 1-0 we may still have lost, we’ll never know but it may have been a completely different game. |  |
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| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 21:56 - Oct 24 with 1150 views | Dr_Winston |
It's probably a bit of both.
Certainly our good start has led to a degree of arrogance and perhaps complacency when it comes to assessing our chances in games and this season in general, but today was probably an outlier in that we're unlikely to be 3-0 down inside 15 minutes again any time soon. We were spectacularly bad.
We need to be positive, we need to take our game to teams and we need options when Plan A isn't working. I've not seen anything like a hint of a Pan B so far. | |
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| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 22:00 - Oct 24 with 1131 views | Whiterockin |
| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 21:41 - Oct 24 by max936 |
Not sure that you can make any judgement on that question after today, we were 3 down after 15mins, slow out of the blocks perhaps away from home at an intimidating ground and the weather bad, I think that all takes it toll, we have had a target on our backs after our start to the season and they had a start that dreams are made of and we really couldn't change our fortunes, we had chances but couldn't finish them on another day etc. |
Hindsight is wonderful, but what did you think when you saw the starting 11. The conditions were made for Fulton and Eom. I had no qualms with the defence selection but they had no protection. As for Just I can't understand why he is currently selected. That's two matches in a row we can say on another day, but I'm putting the blame fully on Matos. That starting 11 is not the best we have, no excuse of two games in a week, just poor selection and tactics. | | | |
| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 22:17 - Oct 24 with 1072 views | vetchonian |
| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 18:30 - Oct 24 by onehunglow |
That’s as great a demolition as I’ve seen and it’s very concerning
Positives say we will dust ourselves down and thrash Blackburn which is of course warlocks
Matos is very likeable but football changes dramatically
He must make significant changes
Why loan Parente and not play him
He can’t be a worse defender than Tymon
Seelt should replace Cabango
Just needs to be kept out of squad and loaned out in January and it makes Walta extract more puzzling
Widdell is a lovely likeable lad but he’s not learning as he should
We are still apparently passing Martin style for the sake of it
Mowbray is a real fox and his team are next up
He was the type of manager we should have employed , ie a proven operator at this level
But, it’s gone and it’s down to Mator to put it right |
Lissah and Welsh were worse than Cabango
Lissah nowhere near his man for first goal,Kone outjumped Welsh for 2nd | |
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| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 22:25 - Oct 24 with 1053 views | Whiterockin |
| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 22:17 - Oct 24 by vetchonian |
Lissah and Welsh were worse than Cabango
Lissah nowhere near his man for first goal,Kone outjumped Welsh for 2nd |
He said he couldn't get a stream on the match thread, then comments on the game, I'm confused. | | | |
| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 22:26 - Oct 24 with 1032 views | onehunglow |
I’ve said before we have the worst defending full backs in the league
Tymon can be effective going forward but defensively he’s terrible
As for full back that’s now injured, the same
Lissah is a talent but no right back
Welsh is good bringing ball out but aerially poor
Cabango is no leader as is obvious
By now Parente should have been tried , if he’s not rated , why bring him in
Tymon needs “ a rest”
Seelt should be an obvious shoe in given our lack of height and presence
Just is not up to it
Widdell , lovely as he is, makes errors all the time
Estaq should be dominant ( he’s not
Fulton
Stamenic is so frustrating as is Opoku
Where is Monga
We have assembled a multitude of players so Matos has no excuse
Lot of thinking to do for Vitor | |
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| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 22:42 - Oct 24 with 985 views | Fireboy2 |
You can tell we have lost, one bad game and someone says all our players are poor
Thats strange, we were top until last weekend and still sit second.
One bad game doesnt make our players poor, this person just loves us doing badly and loves coming on spouting negativity.
We have beaten most of whats been put in front of us and still sit second but yeah we have poor players, blah, blah, blah. | | | |
| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 22:45 - Oct 24 with 985 views | Whiterockin |
| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 22:42 - Oct 24 by Fireboy2 |
You can tell we have lost, one bad game and someone says all our players are poor
Thats strange, we were top until last weekend and still sit second.
One bad game doesnt make our players poor, this person just loves us doing badly and loves coming on spouting negativity.
We have beaten most of whats been put in front of us and still sit second but yeah we have poor players, blah, blah, blah. |
Without even watching the game, you couldn't make it up. | | | |
| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 23:27 - Oct 24 with 909 views | swancity |
| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 22:26 - Oct 24 by onehunglow |
I’ve said before we have the worst defending full backs in the league
Tymon can be effective going forward but defensively he’s terrible
As for full back that’s now injured, the same
Lissah is a talent but no right back
Welsh is good bringing ball out but aerially poor
Cabango is no leader as is obvious
By now Parente should have been tried , if he’s not rated , why bring him in
Tymon needs “ a rest”
Seelt should be an obvious shoe in given our lack of height and presence
Just is not up to it
Widdell , lovely as he is, makes errors all the time
Estaq should be dominant ( he’s not
Fulton
Stamenic is so frustrating as is Opoku
Where is Monga
We have assembled a multitude of players so Matos has no excuse
Lot of thinking to do for Vitor |
In a team sport too many of the individuals do not perform you are in trouble. That happened today.
There was nothing wrong with the team selection or tactics but we were poor in key moments both in attack and especially in defence today. That was hard to take as they have been incredibly good all season wifh only eight goals conceded.
Meanwhile you are completely clueless in every respect on the subject. You seem to enjoy it when we lose. | |
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| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 23:40 - Oct 24 with 881 views | Fireboy2 |
| 5-0 ! Swans thrashed as questions will be asked for sure on 23:27 - Oct 24 by swancity |
In a team sport too many of the individuals do not perform you are in trouble. That happened today.
There was nothing wrong with the team selection or tactics but we were poor in key moments both in attack and especially in defence today. That was hard to take as they have been incredibly good all season wifh only eight goals conceded.
Meanwhile you are completely clueless in every respect on the subject. You seem to enjoy it when we lose. |
The last 2 months have been killing him, he hates it when we do well and loves it when we lose and go on a bad run, atm he is sticking pins in a matos doll hoping we will go on a bad run. | | | |
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