| E-cigs at the Liberty 22:17 - Aug 3 with 14565 views | Swanzay |
As I was down in Swansea today I went to have a look at the new club shop, as I was strolling around the stadium I noticed there are new signs up saying e-cigs are not permitted?
This is more aimed at Phil S really, why?
Surely the club should prefer this to people trying to smoke normal cigs in the toilets etc.
There is no smoke smell as its water vapour, so wrong with that?
Also had a look around the RGB training facility, looks impressive, amazing how far we have come, especially with fairwood on the horizon.
Well worth a visit before the nature blocks the view! |  | | |  |
| E-cigs at the Liberty on 13:25 - Aug 4 with 1642 views | Ice_Tea |
| E-cigs at the Liberty on 12:30 - Aug 4 by Educated_Pork |
You have to admire the club. They still get to hide behind Stadco when making daft decisions. |
Stadco are the landlords so they make the rules. |  | | |
| E-cigs at the Liberty on 13:29 - Aug 4 with 1638 views | exiledclaseboy |
| E-cigs at the Liberty on 13:25 - Aug 4 by Ice_Tea |
Stadco are the landlords so they make the rules. |
True. Swansea City is part of Stadco. |  |
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| E-cigs at the Liberty on 13:54 - Aug 4 with 1622 views | Educated_Pork |
| E-cigs at the Liberty on 13:29 - Aug 4 by exiledclaseboy |
True. Swansea City is part of Stadco. |
And really should be the dominant partner these days. |  | | |
| E-cigs at the Liberty on 13:57 - Aug 4 with 1619 views | JackoBoostardo |
What a curious thread this has evolved into.
Seems to be a lot of self righteous people who believe they should have the right to do whatever they want.
These E-cigs are a gimmick. Giving the smoker the impression they are still smoking when all they are doing is just keeping their fingers busy. So why should people who are non-smokers have to put up sitting next to someone who (and let's be frank - knew the risks of smoking and addiction before starting their habit) cannot stop thinking of having a smoke for a very short period of the day?
I find these E-cigs almost as annoying when the crap still ends up in my face - afterall, I didn't ask for it. It's like sitting next to a a guy who insists on speaking to you throughout the game, but spits everywhere when he shouts. Or being stuck on a crammed train with a person next to you with bad gas - you shouldn't have to put up with it so why should you? Yet we're being told we should have sympathy for smokers?
I'm not a militant on this subject by any stretch - but don't go trying to claim the smokers deserve more as you've already had enough!
I don't want this turned into a debate - just accept it as an opposing view! Rant over. |  |
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| E-cigs at the Liberty on 15:04 - Aug 4 with 1588 views | Smellyplumz |
| E-cigs at the Liberty on 12:57 - Aug 4 by Brynmill_Jack |
Yeah but cancer of the gob awaits anyone who does that with any regularity |
There is a high % that would be the case but its not a given, I've met people who now in their 50`s started chewing at 12 yrs old and they have no oral cancer.
Same as smoking really. men can get breast cancer so go figure that one innit. |  |
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""Although I cannot promise or predict the future, I can guarantee one thing - the current board of directors will always fight, as we have done over the last 12 years, to work together as one with the Supporters Trust to make 100% sure that Swansea City football club remains the number one priority in all our thoughts and in every decision we make." | | Poll: | Huw Jenkins |
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| E-cigs at the Liberty on 15:10 - Aug 4 with 1581 views | JackoBoostardo |
| E-cigs at the Liberty on 15:04 - Aug 4 by Smellyplumz |
There is a high % that would be the case but its not a given, I've met people who now in their 50`s started chewing at 12 yrs old and they have no oral cancer.
Same as smoking really. men can get breast cancer so go figure that one innit. |
And people can dodge trains and cars on the motorway for 40 years and not be hit yet, but it doesn't mean it won't happen.
% statistics are there to provide an idea/educated estimation/approximation. It isn't intended to be 100% accurate - but if you go against them then you can't say you're not aware of the risks involved. | |
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| E-cigs at the Liberty on 15:24 - Aug 4 with 1574 views | reddythered |
I smoked for a long time, used e-cigs, very very useful in giving up.
Brand I used had no nictotine, just apple.
Stadco / SCFC cannot ban e-cigs in that instance where there's no nicotine. Perfectly legal under the law - can use in place of work etc. That was something I had confirmed at CCS.
Now, it may be the decision is made because some may not know they are e-cigs and thus think it's ok to smoke normal cigarettes. | |
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| E-cigs at the Liberty on 15:26 - Aug 4 with 1572 views | exiledclaseboy |
| E-cigs at the Liberty on 15:24 - Aug 4 by reddythered |
I smoked for a long time, used e-cigs, very very useful in giving up.
Brand I used had no nictotine, just apple.
Stadco / SCFC cannot ban e-cigs in that instance where there's no nicotine. Perfectly legal under the law - can use in place of work etc. That was something I had confirmed at CCS.
Now, it may be the decision is made because some may not know they are e-cigs and thus think it's ok to smoke normal cigarettes. |
They can ban them as a condition of entry into the stadium. Cigarette smoking in public wasn't banned until a few years ago but it's always been a no smoking stadium. The law is irrelevant, there's no law that forces any football club, stadium operator or other business to allow the use of Ecigs if they don't want to. | |
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| E-cigs at the Liberty on 15:27 - Aug 4 with 1568 views | Belfast |
Birmingham City are sponsored by an e cigs company, and actively promote them within the stadium. |  |
| You can always save face by cutting your fu cking head off. |
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| E-cigs at the Liberty on 15:30 - Aug 4 with 1563 views | JackoBoostardo |
| E-cigs at the Liberty on 15:24 - Aug 4 by reddythered |
I smoked for a long time, used e-cigs, very very useful in giving up.
Brand I used had no nictotine, just apple.
Stadco / SCFC cannot ban e-cigs in that instance where there's no nicotine. Perfectly legal under the law - can use in place of work etc. That was something I had confirmed at CCS.
Now, it may be the decision is made because some may not know they are e-cigs and thus think it's ok to smoke normal cigarettes. |
Private property numbnuts.
They can ban whatever they want as long as they're not breaking the law for doing so (discrimanation/racial etc).
If this issue is so contentious for you - then don't bother coming at all to watch the match. I'd rather watch the game next to another who appreciates our team over someone whining about not-smoking for 90 minutes. | |
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| E-cigs at the Liberty on 15:37 - Aug 4 with 1554 views | reddythered |
| E-cigs at the Liberty on 15:30 - Aug 4 by JackoBoostardo |
Private property numbnuts.
They can ban whatever they want as long as they're not breaking the law for doing so (discrimanation/racial etc).
If this issue is so contentious for you - then don't bother coming at all to watch the match. I'd rather watch the game next to another who appreciates our team over someone whining about not-smoking for 90 minutes. |
Stay classy.
Fact is the non-nicotine version are legal as per the law. Hence Stadco may not have a great defence if someone pressed the issue.
As I said, I suspect the issue is more along the lines of not being able to tell which ciggies are which.
I don't whine about not smoking because errm, I quit six months ago.
Plus I feel I might need to point out to you that you might want to have read my post and noticed the username before putting the last paragraph in.
As I said, they are perfectly fine within CCS. | |
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| E-cigs at the Liberty on 15:47 - Aug 4 with 1540 views | JackoBoostardo |
| E-cigs at the Liberty on 15:37 - Aug 4 by reddythered |
Stay classy.
Fact is the non-nicotine version are legal as per the law. Hence Stadco may not have a great defence if someone pressed the issue.
As I said, I suspect the issue is more along the lines of not being able to tell which ciggies are which.
I don't whine about not smoking because errm, I quit six months ago.
Plus I feel I might need to point out to you that you might want to have read my post and noticed the username before putting the last paragraph in.
As I said, they are perfectly fine within CCS. |
I'm aware of who you are Reddy.
You are again missing the point - they stadium do not need to defend anything. It's private property and as such falls under their own statutory rules.
And I assume at one point you will be visiting the Liberty with your team in order to get schooled at football. Whilst it may indeed be acceptable at CCS/Legoland, doesn't mean it should be followed at all other stadia. I personally would not want to see it being allowed. Nothing personal against the smokers who want it there, but if you can't hold out for a short period of time then that shows a weak character and nothing more - so is it right I should have to put up with someone blowing fake smoke/vapour around me for 90 minutes? I'd rather watch the game and enjoy it.
I also did mention the reasons why it was not permitted earlier in the thread. It is up to each individual stadium/management company what they allow in to the grounds - in the same mechanic as Vuvuzela's which are also not permitted for consistently being a pain in the ass, e-cigs are reviewed the same. | |
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| E-cigs at the Liberty on 17:36 - Aug 4 with 1504 views | cosy121 |
Why not ban people from making a noise,lol | | | |
| E-cigs at the Liberty on 17:46 - Aug 4 with 1493 views | KingBony |
Dirty little moggers!!
Ban them all I say!
It's all bs anyway, everyday I have to put up with that shit blown in my face wherever I go, on the street or outside tesco or wherever it's disgusting. So moggers complain they can't mog! Boo fecking hoo. If I wanted a smoke free life I wouldn't be able to leave my house.
That's the truth. |  |
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| E-cigs at the Liberty on 18:27 - Aug 4 with 1475 views | bermudajack |
| E-cigs at the Liberty on 17:46 - Aug 4 by KingBony |
Dirty little moggers!!
Ban them all I say!
It's all bs anyway, everyday I have to put up with that shit blown in my face wherever I go, on the street or outside tesco or wherever it's disgusting. So moggers complain they can't mog! Boo fecking hoo. If I wanted a smoke free life I wouldn't be able to leave my house.
That's the truth. |
Firstly I gave up smoking 5 years ago
My dad smokes ECigs regularly
Some places have banned the use of ECigs like hospitals etc. I don't understand why?
I personally have no problem with them whatsoever
They don't smell, pollute or harm anyone and actually help people quit real ciggies.
I don't think it's a matter of going 120 mins without them
It's about being told what we can or cannot do again by the jumped up people's of power
If some clubs are allowing it, there cannot be a risk to public health
If STACO ban them, then they must provide a valid reason, otherwise it could be challenged in a court of law.
STACO cannot simply ban something that's not fair and equal for all sections of society
They should be more concerned with the saturated fat, sugar and salt contents of the food they serve on the concourses, which is far more of a public health concern than ECigs
or maybe they shouldn't serve any food or drink,
because if you can't last 120 mins without it eh? |  |
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| E-cigs at the Liberty on 18:37 - Aug 4 with 1468 views | exiledclaseboy |
| E-cigs at the Liberty on 18:27 - Aug 4 by bermudajack |
Firstly I gave up smoking 5 years ago
My dad smokes ECigs regularly
Some places have banned the use of ECigs like hospitals etc. I don't understand why?
I personally have no problem with them whatsoever
They don't smell, pollute or harm anyone and actually help people quit real ciggies.
I don't think it's a matter of going 120 mins without them
It's about being told what we can or cannot do again by the jumped up people's of power
If some clubs are allowing it, there cannot be a risk to public health
If STACO ban them, then they must provide a valid reason, otherwise it could be challenged in a court of law.
STACO cannot simply ban something that's not fair and equal for all sections of society
They should be more concerned with the saturated fat, sugar and salt contents of the food they serve on the concourses, which is far more of a public health concern than ECigs
or maybe they shouldn't serve any food or drink,
because if you can't last 120 mins without it eh? |
On what basis could a ban on ecigs be challenged in court? | |
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| E-cigs at the Liberty on 18:43 - Aug 4 with 1462 views | ItchySphincter |
Who the fvck is STACO?
Wah wah wah, I can't take my toy cigarette in. Maybe you should take up sucking a dummy.
Be done with it, ban everyone. |  |
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| E-cigs at the Liberty on 18:46 - Aug 4 with 1458 views | cosy121 |
I was at morriston hospital two months ago visiting.There was no ban in place there then. | | | |
| E-cigs at the Liberty on 18:50 - Aug 4 with 1451 views | airedale |
| E-cigs at the Liberty on 22:52 - Aug 3 by airedale |
Try. Not. To. Feed. Your. Face. For. 120. Whole. Minutes. |
I didn't post this.
Very worrying. |  | | |
| E-cigs at the Liberty on 18:53 - Aug 4 with 1444 views | ItchySphincter |
Yeah yeah, course you didn't.
If you''re really worried there is a thread on EE containing a startling admission by a senior trusted mod. [Post edited 4 Aug 2013 18:53]
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| E-cigs at the Liberty on 19:33 - Aug 4 with 1423 views | airedale |
| E-cigs at the Liberty on 18:53 - Aug 4 by ItchySphincter |
Yeah yeah, course you didn't.
If you''re really worried there is a thread on EE containing a startling admission by a senior trusted mod. [Post edited 4 Aug 2013 18:53]
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Are these admissions regarding deleted posts?
And if so why delete the post I deny ownership of, its not very inflamatory is it?
Its just worrying because its like identity theft.
Anyway I can't go 120 minutes without feeding my face, so I'd be a bit of a hypocrite suggesting that someone else shouldn't do it. | | | |
| E-cigs at the Liberty on 19:38 - Aug 4 with 1420 views | bermudajack |
| E-cigs at the Liberty on 18:53 - Aug 4 by ItchySphincter |
Yeah yeah, course you didn't.
If you''re really worried there is a thread on EE containing a startling admission by a senior trusted mod. [Post edited 4 Aug 2013 18:53]
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STADCO ...
now go suck your own dummy,
You stick to the rules and do what your told now... There's a good lad :-) | |
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| E-cigs at the Liberty on 20:04 - Aug 4 with 1406 views | JackoBoostardo |
| E-cigs at the Liberty on 18:27 - Aug 4 by bermudajack |
Firstly I gave up smoking 5 years ago
My dad smokes ECigs regularly
Some places have banned the use of ECigs like hospitals etc. I don't understand why?
I personally have no problem with them whatsoever
They don't smell, pollute or harm anyone and actually help people quit real ciggies.
I don't think it's a matter of going 120 mins without them
It's about being told what we can or cannot do again by the jumped up people's of power
If some clubs are allowing it, there cannot be a risk to public health
If STACO ban them, then they must provide a valid reason, otherwise it could be challenged in a court of law.
STACO cannot simply ban something that's not fair and equal for all sections of society
They should be more concerned with the saturated fat, sugar and salt contents of the food they serve on the concourses, which is far more of a public health concern than ECigs
or maybe they shouldn't serve any food or drink,
because if you can't last 120 mins without it eh? |
You drunk?
Remember the time when clubs and bars stopped people coming in with trainers and jeans?
Did you challenge that in court too?
Crazy!
It's policy of the stadium - get used to it and quit yer whining! | |
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| E-cigs at the Liberty on 20:30 - Aug 4 with 1396 views | airedale |
As far as I'm concerned this thread is Faux-fag-gate. | | | |
| E-cigs at the Liberty on 20:42 - Aug 4 with 1384 views | Stanners |
| E-cigs at the Liberty on 22:44 - Aug 3 by SwansNZ |
Is 2 hours really too long to go without having a puff? FFS, watch the bloody football mun |
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