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What is free speech?
at 12:03 17 Apr 2025

It's easy to get distracted by minority groups who are loud or adept at gathering attention. They are helped of course by a media which thinks it acceptable to point to the alleged flaws and traumas of others in the name of "entertainment" or "public interest".

The internet and a myriad of sources of "news" of course helps and so does a propensity for people to read/watch only those sources which reinforce their views and give them some credence. We have to force ourselves to watch more than one source and even then if what we see enrages us or reduces the integrity of what we think we know, we're inclined to switch off off and ignore it.

For example, the US is more "advanced" down the line of news sources being partisan than perhaps most of Europe and the UK which requires some semblance of balance. I do however try, if an issue interests me, to find two sources and takes, usually MSNBC and Fox News. (Was into Newsmax, but those guys are out with the loony tunes).

Their truth is sometimes difficult to swallow or give weight to but it's their truth and is valid in their eyes and they have a right to express it.
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What is free speech?
at 16:07 16 Apr 2025

I think I would say that if the individual does not wish to use the chosen honourific, then that is them exercise their free speech.

It may offend the recipient but for so long as it's born of genuine reasoning and is not used to insult or degrade, then that is the flip side to free speech.
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What is free speech?
at 14:39 16 Apr 2025

Certainly the "what is a woman" question is pertinent given the ruling in the Supreme Court today.

As I understand it, for the purposes of the Equalities Act, a person's sex is determined by their biological sex at birth. References to "sex" and "gender" in that Act, mean biological sex at birth.

Unfortunately I've just listened to a "trans activist" on the radio who claims - without evidence - that 2% of the population (that's more than 1 million people) are now "at risk" of discrimination and potential harm. The presenter stepped in with a few facts from verifiable sources that indicate that the case brought by the Scottish women impacts just 125 people.

For me free speech does not include outright and blatant lies which support an argument.

I have no problems with calling somebody he or she as they choose. I may think that they are deluded or ill or just trying to stand out in a crowd, but that's their choice. However an activist using lies to fake a point is just wrong.
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What is free speech?
at 10:29 16 Apr 2025

I was reading over the weekend a debate between various academics, politicians, "influencers" and others about the nature of free speech.

A lot of ground was covered without any evidence of the participants leaving the debate with any other opinion than the one they brought to the table.

One thing that struck me was that some people see a connection between antisemitism and free speech. The argument seems to be that if you exercise your right to say what you wish but it upsets the Jewish community, then you have strayed into insult (or what lawmakers like to label "hate speech"). This "fact" is then used by those who support - for example - the mismatched conflict in Gaza to try to shut down any criticism of (in this example) Israel's actions.

It is also part of Trumps war with Harvard University. His administration claims that unless the university takes action against antisemitism and "protects" free speech, they will have their funding cut and tax position revoked.

In the US it seems that "free speech" is anything that supports the Trump/Republican view and anything which supports a different view is to be squashed - by law if necessary.

That points to a dystopian future for the US and because many countries do not wish to anger the US, by extension, those places as well.

So, does free speech have a beginning and an end where it becomes sufficiently offensive as to cause or incite violence? Does it have to mean whatever the ruling cult says?

This is not about the Israel/Gaza situation or Russia/Ukraine or even Saints/Pompey. No opinions or views here can wrong.
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Handmaids Tale
at 08:38 15 Apr 2025

How's that proof coming along M r J?

Progress? I look at those facts easily obtainable and which I have time or appetite for and can see no hand controlling Trump.
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The club of Embarrassment
at 13:51 14 Apr 2025

Has any club gone from PL to Conference (or whatever it's called these days) in consecutive seasons?
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Handmaids Tale
at 10:48 14 Apr 2025

I think I hold two positions on Trump, one of which may come to the fore when the Republicans get decimated in the mid terms next year or both may continue to be partly true (to me) until he is removed.

First, is that he has a character flaw in that he craves the admiration of those he perceives as powerful or influential. His father was a successful businessman and bailed DJT out a few times. I think Trump is always therefore looking to secure that sort of attention from billionaires etc so that he can think himself also one of the "success club" members. The reality is that he is at best a mediocre businessman and that is why he has to resort to borderline illegal tactics to preserve whatever kudos he thinks he has.

Where he has been successful is in realising what he needs to do to be elected. He basically needs to give people what they think they need and to promise to "take it to the man" on issues that have popular appeal such as immigration and inflation. In all cases, he exaggerates and lies and makes U turns (especially when he runs into issues being dealt with by real intelligent adults, such as the global economy).

Because he tells people what they want to hear, they vote for him. Admitting you are wrong in something and changing your position, takes real courage because nobody likes to think that they were fooled or wrong. It will take some sort of huge disaster for the rural voters in the US to make that change.

Second, he may be the fall guy for some form of cabal wishing to change the world order. If that cabal is looking to grow their wealth, they're not going to be happy about recent events. If their aim is some form of political power, the isolation of the US from Europe and China does not seem to me to be very sensible.

The USA is the world's biggest consumer of just about everything. They no longer have the industrial infrastructure to be self sustaining because its cheaper to buy from abroad than make it "at home". Becoming isolated (because it's too expensive to sell goods there or because US citizens have no appetite for expensive goods) again does not seem to fit any realistic plan or objective for whomever might be running trump.

On balance - at the moment - I see him as a man desperately seeking approval - at all costs - but hopelessly out of depth and learning that being surrounded by sycophants and one trick conspiracy theorists is not going to make things better.
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Handmaids Tale
at 10:15 10 Apr 2025

Again, more distraction and more attacks (which I'm sure make you feel better but do rather show you up) BUT NO PROOF.

Come on - surprise me.

I write (probably quite bad) science fiction short stories for a hobby so I'm open to ideas, going off on tangents from the norm, etc.

If your "elite" are to be found in the higher reaches of authority, temporal or spiritual, in the moneyed ranks of millionaires, in the heart of Gov't, wherever, then I would not be shocked.

But without any evidence your position lacks integrity.

My evidence - just watch the news today. Trump is deluded and vain and stubborn but is he an agent for anybody other than Putin? No I don't think so.
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If Rusk can get us to 20 points, the job is his
at 10:51 9 Apr 2025

And very unlikely.

I'd be happy with a point at Leicester to at least equal the worst ever tally.
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Handmaids Tale
at 10:48 9 Apr 2025

Mr jelly, let's not fall for usual trick of saying "I have everything, but let's discuss this first". That is distraction.

Select what you think is your best piece of hard evidence and share it here.

I'll do my best to remove the imaginary mind control shackles you assume I have (without proof) and I and the others here can examine as objectively as we can what you can offer.

Over to you.

No more distraction or attack or other tricks.

Just produce your proof.
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Sky Sports Reports Ivan Juric Sacked
at 12:56 7 Apr 2025

I think nobody will be sorry to see him leave.

The statement says that he arrived at a difficult time - he did - but I hope that the management realise why it was difficult, i.e. they made it that way by staying the ego previously known as RM too long and failing to recruit well.

I know nothing about Rusk. Lallana I know only as a player. I hope that they can tease a few points out of this team before the end of the season before we appoint a permanent manager.
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Handmaids Tale
at 08:43 7 Apr 2025

Part of the issue here Mr Jelly is that you continually offer up a theory that we are all being "controlled" by some sort of secret cabal or elite who care only for money and power but when pushed, you have no proof.

The Trump effect on the weak minded is obvious. Offer them something they think they need; strike a blow against "the man"; assume the imagined reins of power. It's a story as old as politics and one we have seen many times in history.

Is he stupid? No. Is he easily led into thinking he is some sort of intellectual superbeing? Yes. Is he vain? Yes. Is he willing to lie to himself and everybody else in covering up these faults? Yes.

But if you want to claim that he is nothing but a factor of a global cabal, you need proof.

And despite repeated opportunities, none has been offered.

Until it is, I'm afraid that your case lacks any credibility.
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Fake tariffs and fake news
at 14:49 3 Apr 2025

Unless it was renamed the American Ocean
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Fake tariffs and fake news
at 13:16 3 Apr 2025

I'm not an economist. I'm not expert or even a user of AI. I cannot therefore say whether the "revelation" from various US commentators are correct or just more BS.

The claim however is that the alleged tariffs imposed on the US by various countries (some mentioned on the Felon's big scoreboard have a zero population) are false. There has been no examination of export/import charges.

Instead if you apply a formula which is trade deficit/exports to the US, you get to the tariff the Felon claims exists.

Take Indonesia. Deficit 17.9bn, exports to US $28bn. Deficit is 64% of exports which is the tariff the orange baby claims exists.

Repeat this for each country mentioned for tariffs above the base 10% rate and the equation works every time.

I suspect that the any actual calculation of barriers to import/export are way beyond the intellectual grip or attention span of the Felon and so his minions had to simplify it.

On a different thread Mr Jellybaby asked me if I thought Trump was just a tool of his (Jelly's) cherished "global elite" based on the fact that he was just too stupid to run the USA on his own. No proof of said global elite or their Jedi mind tricks was of course offered).

I have no doubt that the Felon lacks intelligence (he mistakes belligerence as intelligence) and that the cult members around him are too scared to call him out. (Because they will be sacked and the DoJ will be unleashed upon them).

If however there is this cabal which has been at work for centuries and which apparently control dictators like Putin, Orbal, the Chinese Communist Party, etc why would they blow their cover with somebody like Trump?

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Handmaids Tale
at 08:32 3 Apr 2025

With the proof?

No - thought not.
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Handmaids Tale
at 14:29 2 Apr 2025

Please tell me who is controlling the Felon - with proof.
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Handmaids Tale
at 12:41 1 Apr 2025

The concentration of wealth into the hands of a relative few is not new, not specific to the last few hundred years nor probably ever. Human nature dictates that if you have opportunity to acquire more resources than your neighbour, then you do that.

There can be many reasons or excuses for that behaviour but it's ingrained as a means of providing security against hunger, enemies, adverse nature, etc.

I recall reading a paper many years ago which it speculated that all the money in the UK was distributed evenly on Day 1 of Year 1, it would be consolidated into a small percentage of hands within a decade.

We also see communist regimes fail because some people always want to be more equal than others.

We also see many people dabble in politics and perhaps become single issue dictators (think Farage) and can guess that they do not have what it takes to actually run a country.

Finally, the great unwashed masses can throw a hero into power from time to time but without the education, the political nous or a willingness to be a dictator, they will crash and burn.

The dream/nightmare of the "lower classes" rising and gaining power would end in anarchy and disaster for untold millions.
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The media selling Tyler to the highest bidder
at 12:25 1 Apr 2025

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cn4yen2xgrxo

Pretty much a puff piece which I suspect was planted by an agent looking to extract the maximum price.

Tyler's statistics as quoted are certainly top half of any table and in a team that has struggled (and will continue to struggle) are arguably outstanding.

There is an aspect here that really - really - irritates me.

One of the tables is "fouls won".

Fouls are not "won" - they are conceded or committed by the opposition.

By styling this as fouls won it implies that "winning" fouls is now an acceptable tactic and is it any wonder then that player dive at every opportunity?
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Handmaids Tale
at 08:33 1 Apr 2025

I think Mr Jelly, that noting the facts and reacting to them is hardly an "epiphany".

Unlike you because I see no facts supporting the idea of a shadowy "elite" (I've given up asking exactly who these people are because nobody knows or nobody is willing to say) directing the Felon and his cabal of idiots, I do not believe in today's favourite conspiracy.

The Democrats failed in the last two cycles to find a leader who could mean something to the majority of voters. The Republicans saw this and prostituted themselves to every influencer they could find from the religious to the Tate loving rednecks to every conspiracy theorist they could find. Their vote base is a demographers nightmare and almost impossible to keep together over the cycle.

I also think that the Felon cares only for personal reputation. Yes he is easily swayed and reacts like a child if provoked, but ultimately he craves recognition because he knows he is a failure.

But adults look for facts and try to interpret them. They don't invent facts or make assumptions which are plainly different from the facts.
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Ross Stewart Could Feature Against Crystal Palace
at 16:11 31 Mar 2025

Sweepstake on how long he will last?
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