| Sajid Javid Tells A Porkie!! 13:30 - May 1 with 4309 views | theloneranger |
What a great start for the new Home Secretary!!
Sajid Javid makes a provably-untrue statement to MPs and the nation — less than ten minutes into his first appearance.
"VIDEO: NEW HOME SECRETARY JAVID MISLEADS HOUSE <10 MINS INTO FIRST APPEARANCE"
https://skwawkbox.org/2018/04/30/video-new-home-secretary-javid-misleads-house-o [Post edited 1 May 2018 13:37]
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| Sajid Javid on 13:35 - May 1 with 4290 views | omarjack |
Oblivious,Incompetent,Delusional,Truth-bender..in a word..Tory. |  |
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| Sajid Javid on 16:44 - May 1 with 4140 views | Dippy |
| Sajid Javid on 13:35 - May 1 by omarjack |
Oblivious,Incompetent,Delusional,Truth-bender..in a word..Tory. |
And looking at the opposition.. you have Diane Abbott and Tom Watson munching on a 3 course meal, with heads like a balloon ready to pop..
Diane is about as intellectually versed as a fish blowing bubbles.
Tom Watson is afraid to say anything in case he comes across as being dense.
I have listened to politicians of the past, the ones who had to deal with real issues, like winning wars, initiating real changes to society.. and even though they were all drunken, smoking, sex fuelled numbskulls.. when it came down to actual commandeer use of oratory English cutting edge, it was almost artistry.. they weren't politicians.. they were artists with craft, and a way of philosophy.. it was almost as if they were born to do it.
Today's politicians.. are falling over their feet and dropping papers on the floor..
The old politicians would be looking in bemusement yelling out "papers? This is an art, not a scribes paradise" |  |
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| Sajid Javid Tells A Porkie!! on 16:48 - May 1 with 4133 views | bluey_the_blue |
Skwawkbox.
The Labour backing website described by a judge as a fake news site. | | | |
| Sajid Javid Tells A Porkie!! on 17:33 - May 1 with 4096 views | the_oracle |
| Sajid Javid Tells A Porkie!! on 16:48 - May 1 by bluey_the_blue |
Skwawkbox.
The Labour backing website described by a judge as a fake news site. |
A bit like the Daily Mail, then. | | | |
| Sajid Javid Tells A Porkie!! on 17:52 - May 1 with 4075 views | johnlangy |
| Sajid Javid Tells A Porkie!! on 17:33 - May 1 by the_oracle |
A bit like the Daily Mail, then. |
Exactly. A rag of a paper not fit to be used to wipe your a&se. | | | |
| Sajid Javid Tells A Porkie!! on 18:11 - May 1 with 4052 views | theloneranger |
| Sajid Javid Tells A Porkie!! on 16:48 - May 1 by bluey_the_blue |
Skwawkbox.
The Labour backing website described by a judge as a fake news site. |
Well the video of Sajid Javid making the statement isn't fake.
He claimed that the Immigration Act 2014 did not remove the protection against deportation available to Windrush migrants...
and in his own words...
"No such protections have been removed. People who arrived pre-1973 - they have the absolute right to be here and that has not changed."
Yet..
The clause giving longstanding Commonwealth residents protection from enforced removal, was taken off the statute book by the 2014 Immigration Act!!
So is he telling porkies, or has he caught the Home Office disease??
"That they wouldn't know the truth if it smacked them in the face" [Post edited 1 May 2018 19:06]
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| Sajid Javid Tells A Porkie!! on 18:18 - May 1 with 4044 views | waynekerr55 |
Porkie? No pun intended  |  |
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| Sajid Javid Tells A Porkie!! on 18:31 - May 1 with 4032 views | Loyal |
Probably just a mistake ...
Mr Jenkins.
Er ...
Wrong thread, sorry. |  |
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| Sajid Javid Tells A Porkie!! on 19:05 - May 1 with 3990 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Sajid Javid Tells A Porkie!! on 17:33 - May 1 by the_oracle |
A bit like the Daily Mail, then. |
Which has been called a fake news site by a judge when precisely?
Swawkbox, Canary et al - nothing to do with news, everything to do with promoting Corbyn. | | | |
| Sajid Javid Tells A Porkie!! on 20:16 - May 1 with 3937 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
Skwawkbox FFS |  |
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| Sajid Javid Tells A Porkie!! on 07:05 - May 2 with 3821 views | AnotherJohn |
| Sajid Javid Tells A Porkie!! on 18:11 - May 1 by theloneranger |
Well the video of Sajid Javid making the statement isn't fake.
He claimed that the Immigration Act 2014 did not remove the protection against deportation available to Windrush migrants...
and in his own words...
"No such protections have been removed. People who arrived pre-1973 - they have the absolute right to be here and that has not changed."
Yet..
The clause giving longstanding Commonwealth residents protection from enforced removal, was taken off the statute book by the 2014 Immigration Act!!
So is he telling porkies, or has he caught the Home Office disease??
"That they wouldn't know the truth if it smacked them in the face" [Post edited 1 May 2018 19:06]
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According to your logic the 2014 Act removed these people's right to remain, but that is incorrect. Presumably Javid was simply making the point that under the provisions of the Immigration Act 1971 people from Commonwealth countries (and their wives and children) who settled in the UK before 1973 can remain in the UK indefinitely. The significance of the 2014 Act is that it required people to provide proof of residence as a condition of access to certain services or to stay indefinitely, and many of the Windrush generation found it difficult to produce documents showing they arrived before 1973 (when the tougher 1971 Act came into effect). So Javid was correct to say that pre-1973 arrivals always had a right to stay, because Section 1 of the 1971 Act is still in effect. The issue is that the Home Office should have been more understanding in helping them establish when their residence in the UK began. | | | |
| Sajid Javid Tells A Porkie!! on 09:07 - May 2 with 3757 views | theloneranger |
| Sajid Javid Tells A Porkie!! on 07:05 - May 2 by AnotherJohn |
According to your logic the 2014 Act removed these people's right to remain, but that is incorrect. Presumably Javid was simply making the point that under the provisions of the Immigration Act 1971 people from Commonwealth countries (and their wives and children) who settled in the UK before 1973 can remain in the UK indefinitely. The significance of the 2014 Act is that it required people to provide proof of residence as a condition of access to certain services or to stay indefinitely, and many of the Windrush generation found it difficult to produce documents showing they arrived before 1973 (when the tougher 1971 Act came into effect). So Javid was correct to say that pre-1973 arrivals always had a right to stay, because Section 1 of the 1971 Act is still in effect. The issue is that the Home Office should have been more understanding in helping them establish when their residence in the UK began. |
"The onus is on individuals to prove they were resident in the UK before 1 January 1973, the date the 1971 Immigration Act came into force. However, a key clause from 1999 legislation, which had provided longstanding Commonwealth residents with protection from enforced removal, was deleted from the 2014 Immigration Act."
"All longstanding Commonwealth residents were protected from enforced removal by a specific exemption in the 1999 Immigration and Asylum Act — a clause removed in the updated 2014 legislation."
Frances Webber, a former barrister and vice-chair of the Institute of Race Relations, discovered the deletion of the clause. “I find it very frightening that rights can be removed in this way, surreptitiously, with no debate,” she said. | |
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| Sajid Javid Tells A Porkie!! on 10:51 - May 2 with 3712 views | AnotherJohn |
For your argument to work you have to establish that pre-1973 arrivals do not have a right to remain under existing law. They do. It was granted in S1 of the 1971 Act. The change you identify may affect some Commonwealth migrants, but should not affect those who came before January 1st 1973. That is very simple and Javid was correct. Show me who is arguing that the Windrush migrants do not have a right to remain. | | | |
| Sajid Javid Tells A Porkie!! on 15:11 - May 2 with 3649 views | burty |
How many times can this prime minister have any more problems with immigration the NHS Brexit tory rebels the Dup as well are all against her policies. for god sake enough of enough imcopmetence, time for Labour to take over and start to bring energy companies and railways back to public ownership and stop the bankers bonuses and this.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/may/02/jeremy-hunt-to-launch-inquiry-in [Post edited 2 May 2018 15:15]
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| Sajid Javid Tells A Porkie!! on 23:39 - Aug 22 with 2913 views | burty |
Seen that report how can we belive in their fugures, time for a change get corbyn in for all our families sake, and for the future generations. | | | |
| Sajid Javid on 23:57 - Aug 22 with 2893 views | Badlands |
| Sajid Javid on 16:44 - May 1 by Dippy |
And looking at the opposition.. you have Diane Abbott and Tom Watson munching on a 3 course meal, with heads like a balloon ready to pop..
Diane is about as intellectually versed as a fish blowing bubbles.
Tom Watson is afraid to say anything in case he comes across as being dense.
I have listened to politicians of the past, the ones who had to deal with real issues, like winning wars, initiating real changes to society.. and even though they were all drunken, smoking, sex fuelled numbskulls.. when it came down to actual commandeer use of oratory English cutting edge, it was almost artistry.. they weren't politicians.. they were artists with craft, and a way of philosophy.. it was almost as if they were born to do it.
Today's politicians.. are falling over their feet and dropping papers on the floor..
The old politicians would be looking in bemusement yelling out "papers? This is an art, not a scribes paradise" |
Typical ... trying to excuse the inexcusable by talking about something unrelated. |  |
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| Sajid Javid Tells A Porkie!! on 04:58 - Aug 23 with 2837 views | Loyal |
| Sajid Javid Tells A Porkie!! on 17:52 - May 1 by johnlangy |
Exactly. A rag of a paper not fit to be used to wipe your a&se. |
It would hurt as well. | |
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| Sajid Javid Tells A Porkie!! on 07:50 - Aug 23 with 2774 views | WarwickHunt |
| Sajid Javid Tells A Porkie!! on 15:11 - May 2 by burty |
How many times can this prime minister have any more problems with immigration the NHS Brexit tory rebels the Dup as well are all against her policies. for god sake enough of enough imcopmetence, time for Labour to take over and start to bring energy companies and railways back to public ownership and stop the bankers bonuses and this.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/may/02/jeremy-hunt-to-launch-inquiry-in [Post edited 2 May 2018 15:15]
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“enough of enough imcopmetence”
Well, quite. |  | | |
| Sajid Javid Tells A Porkie!! on 10:15 - Aug 23 with 2661 views | waynekerr55 |
| Sajid Javid Tells A Porkie!! on 07:50 - Aug 23 by WarwickHunt |
“enough of enough imcopmetence”
Well, quite. |
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| Sajid Javid Tells A Porkie!! on 11:37 - Aug 23 with 2615 views | Catullus |
| Sajid Javid Tells A Porkie!! on 15:11 - May 2 by burty |
How many times can this prime minister have any more problems with immigration the NHS Brexit tory rebels the Dup as well are all against her policies. for god sake enough of enough imcopmetence, time for Labour to take over and start to bring energy companies and railways back to public ownership and stop the bankers bonuses and this.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/may/02/jeremy-hunt-to-launch-inquiry-in [Post edited 2 May 2018 15:15]
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Well not to support May or the tories but, how can Labour just take over? WE'd have to have a general election and Labour would have to win.
The way things are currently it's hard to see Labour or Tory doing anything but worse in a GE. They are both in mires pretty much of their own making.
Then there's the Libdems, does anyone thibk they'd be better even if they could win enough seats?
Maybe we should have a GE to find out but all I can see happening is another minority government, another weak government which (whoever it was) would struggle to get anything worthwhile through Parliament.
Part of me hopes for a Corbyn win now, I believe he would be even more ruinous for this country, if that's possible. With all the borrowing he plans I think in a few years we'd be seeing massive inflation, interest rates causing mortgage defaults to skyrocket again but hey, maybe some of the rich would actually be in the same boat as us poor, lazy, welfare scroungers and we could laugh at them.
Truth be told May has little support from anywhere in her ranks but Corbyn has Momentum and they will never accept anything bad about St Jeremy to be true. | |
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| Sajid Javid Tells A Porkie!! on 13:52 - Aug 23 with 2560 views | felixstowe_jack |
At least the tories are trying to control immigration rather than let in anyone who will vote for them despite the housing shortage and the strain it puts on the NHS and schools. | |
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| Sajid Javid Tells A Porkie!! on 13:56 - Aug 23 with 2553 views | Ebo |
| Sajid Javid Tells A Porkie!! on 10:15 - Aug 23 by waynekerr55 |
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Don't mention his name on here. Speak of the devil and all that... |  |
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