| RUMOUR 14:49 - Aug 16 with 19452 views | johnlangy |
Heard this on Tuesday. The person who told me had heard it elsewhere, from a few people from the way he said it.
The owners are looking to claw back their money via the parachute payments and will then sell the Club back to our beloved HJ and MM.
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| RUMOUR on 20:35 - Sep 17 with 2291 views | TenbySwan |
JVZ was in the directors box at Millwall, posted pictures on his twitter |  | | |
| RUMOUR on 11:35 - Sep 18 with 1975 views | Dyfnant |
| RUMOUR on 20:35 - Sep 17 by TenbySwan |
JVZ was in the directors box at Millwall, posted pictures on his twitter |
Was he flexing |  |
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| RUMOUR on 12:46 - Sep 18 with 1813 views | waynekerr55 |
| RUMOUR on 19:48 - Sep 17 by longlostjack |
So you know better do you Badlands? Must have been massive mismanagement if you’re right. Do tell. [Post edited 17 Sep 2018 19:49]
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Bless he won't answer you. |  |
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| RUMOUR on 16:17 - Sep 18 with 1631 views | Loyal |
| RUMOUR on 11:35 - Sep 18 by Dyfnant |
Was he flexing |
No he was gurning... |  |
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| RUMOUR on 17:23 - Sep 18 with 1556 views | CaligulaSwan |
Morgans specially and others wanted to sellout for max $$$ before the finances spiraled out of control - can you blame after all they did in 2002? Huw deserves cashout most as he single handed got us in the prem league. Be joyful the local boys Martin and Huw and Leigh are waiting to save the club again and start over. Thanks boys! |  | | |
| RUMOUR on 17:41 - Sep 18 with 1509 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| RUMOUR on 17:23 - Sep 18 by CaligulaSwan |
Morgans specially and others wanted to sellout for max $$$ before the finances spiraled out of control - can you blame after all they did in 2002? Huw deserves cashout most as he single handed got us in the prem league. Be joyful the local boys Martin and Huw and Leigh are waiting to save the club again and start over. Thanks boys! |
Can someone ban Huw please? |  | | |
| RUMOUR on 17:47 - Sep 18 with 1492 views | waynekerr55 |
| RUMOUR on 17:23 - Sep 18 by CaligulaSwan |
Morgans specially and others wanted to sellout for max $$$ before the finances spiraled out of control - can you blame after all they did in 2002? Huw deserves cashout most as he single handed got us in the prem league. Be joyful the local boys Martin and Huw and Leigh are waiting to save the club again and start over. Thanks boys! |
Single handedly got us there?
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| RUMOUR on 18:10 - Sep 18 with 1443 views | longlostjack |
| RUMOUR on 13:58 - Sep 18 by Badlands |
Your opinion, my opinion 
I base my opinion on the following (simplistic I know, but often, for all the fancy realignment and treatment of finances a company on be reasonably assessed on the upfront position.)
Different dates for our financial announcements, end of season and end of year muddy the waters a little but here goes.
Running at a small profit until 2015.
To July 2016 - loss £15 M (Jenkins had earlier warned £30M might be likely and this spooked the shareholders into acting, IMO rightly so as the big league was a step too far for their capabilities especially with Monk taking away our ace card of being different.)
To July 2017 - annual profit of £14 so we are back to break even(ish) But annual turnover rose to £127M with total operating costs at £150M!
To July 2018 - possibly c£25M profit largely based on transfers and drop in wages since relegation.
Since July £38M profit on transfers & wages.
But we are looking at a £50M drop in rights payments this season and possibly another £10 million next. & ’As well as the reduced TV revenues, relegated Premier League clubs will also suffer financially in matchday revenue and incomes associated with that, such as hospitality. Commercial deals with sponsors could take a hit, too.’(Sky report on Deloitte Sports Business Group.)
Wages for some of our loaned out players will also be picked up by us although it is rumoured Man City are paying part of Wilf’s £4.5M salary.
Taking in to account weakness of the £, inflation and increased repayment on loans we are currently looking to be in a small profit / break even position.
A positive is we have a number of players on loan or not available who will bring in a decent profit in January or next season.
My opinion is … decision had / have to be taken or we would / will soon be looking at administration.
Whether we are doing it the best way is up for debate but I look at our fall from the 1st Division and really don’t want to go through that heartache again.
No matter which league we are in I support the Swans but being solvent and competitive in whichever league we are in is far more important than going to watch Manchester United V Swansea City or Liverpool v Swansea. |
Thanks for the reply. I agree that the decline can certainly be traced to the firing of Laudrup and appointment of Gary Monk. Whose bright idea was that? What followed was catastrophic transfer planning culminating in the complete waste of the transfer income from Sigurdsson. In any other business those responsible would be fired. A fish rots from the head down. |  |
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| RUMOUR on 18:21 - Sep 18 with 1401 views | CaligulaSwan |
| RUMOUR on 17:47 - Sep 18 by waynekerr55 |
Single handedly got us there?
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Yes pretty much by himself. All 2002 investors to be fair must be thanked for putting in money. | | | |
| RUMOUR on 18:25 - Sep 18 with 1387 views | majorraglan |
| RUMOUR on 18:21 - Sep 18 by CaligulaSwan |
Yes pretty much by himself. All 2002 investors to be fair must be thanked for putting in money. |
What about the Trust? | | | |
| RUMOUR on 18:26 - Sep 18 with 1383 views | londonlisa2001 |
| RUMOUR on 18:21 - Sep 18 by CaligulaSwan |
Yes pretty much by himself. All 2002 investors to be fair must be thanked for putting in money. |
They were. With massive returns on their investment.
Well, apart from the Trust that is, of course.
Who were screwed over instead.
By all the other investors. The ones you’re praising.
Got to love these troll accounts though. | | | |
| RUMOUR on 18:30 - Sep 18 with 1373 views | WarwickHunt |
| RUMOUR on 18:26 - Sep 18 by londonlisa2001 |
They were. With massive returns on their investment.
Well, apart from the Trust that is, of course.
Who were screwed over instead.
By all the other investors. The ones you’re praising.
Got to love these troll accounts though. |
Schmoke and a pancake, anyone? |  | | |
| RUMOUR on 18:36 - Sep 18 with 1352 views | Uxbridge |
| RUMOUR on 17:23 - Sep 18 by CaligulaSwan |
Morgans specially and others wanted to sellout for max $$$ before the finances spiraled out of control - can you blame after all they did in 2002? Huw deserves cashout most as he single handed got us in the prem league. Be joyful the local boys Martin and Huw and Leigh are waiting to save the club again and start over. Thanks boys! |
Finances don't spiral out of control by themselves. Or are you accusing the former board of mismanagement of the football club? |  |
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| RUMOUR on 18:37 - Sep 18 with 1345 views | WarwickHunt |
| RUMOUR on 18:36 - Sep 18 by Uxbridge |
Finances don't spiral out of control by themselves. Or are you accusing the former board of mismanagement of the football club? |
A big boy did it then ran away. | | | |
| RUMOUR on 18:39 - Sep 18 with 1335 views | Uxbridge |
| RUMOUR on 18:26 - Sep 18 by londonlisa2001 |
They were. With massive returns on their investment.
Well, apart from the Trust that is, of course.
Who were screwed over instead.
By all the other investors. The ones you’re praising.
Got to love these troll accounts though. |
Troll or trying to rewrite their history? Probably just trying to wallpaper over the realities of the last couple of years... | |
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| RUMOUR on 18:41 - Sep 18 with 1324 views | Uxbridge |
| RUMOUR on 18:37 - Sep 18 by WarwickHunt |
A big boy did it then ran away. |
I'd have more respect if they held their hands up to their conduct rather than believing they've acted in the club's best interests. Shame really. | |
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| RUMOUR on 18:42 - Sep 18 with 1318 views | londonlisa2001 |
| RUMOUR on 18:30 - Sep 18 by WarwickHunt |
Schmoke and a pancake, anyone? |
I love the name he’s given himself.
Wiki says “during his brief reign, Caligula worked to increase the unconstrained personal power of the emperor, as opposed to countervailing powers within the principate. He directed much of his attention to ambitious construction projects and luxurious dwellings for himself “
Someone has a sense of humour. | | | |
| RUMOUR on 18:44 - Sep 18 with 1309 views | WarwickHunt |
| RUMOUR on 18:39 - Sep 18 by Uxbridge |
Troll or trying to rewrite their history? Probably just trying to wallpaper over the realities of the last couple of years... |
I saw what you did there...  | | | |
| RUMOUR on 18:51 - Sep 18 with 1269 views | chad |
| RUMOUR on 17:23 - Sep 18 by CaligulaSwan |
Morgans specially and others wanted to sellout for max $$$ before the finances spiraled out of control - can you blame after all they did in 2002? Huw deserves cashout most as he single handed got us in the prem league. Be joyful the local boys Martin and Huw and Leigh are waiting to save the club again and start over. Thanks boys! |
‘Huw deserves cashout most as he single handed got us in the prem league’
In goal?
We all dream of a team of *Jinx doesn’t quite pan unfortunately
(* For clarification Jinx is my affectionate name for anyone called Jenkins, as opposed to the cat in Meet the Parents that urinates an the ashes of the dead) [Post edited 18 Sep 2018 18:52]
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| RUMOUR on 19:05 - Sep 18 with 1207 views | Dewi1jack |
Schhhhtum majorraglan mun.
Trust can't know.
Not yet. [Post edited 18 Sep 2018 19:07]
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| RUMOUR on 19:07 - Sep 18 with 1192 views | CaligulaSwan |
| RUMOUR on 18:26 - Sep 18 by londonlisa2001 |
They were. With massive returns on their investment.
Well, apart from the Trust that is, of course.
Who were screwed over instead.
By all the other investors. The ones you’re praising.
Got to love these troll accounts though. |
Well, did not the Trust inner sanctum take the position back then it will “never sell”? A defining moment. What were other investers meant to do? | | | |
| RUMOUR on 19:08 - Sep 18 with 1189 views | CaligulaSwan |
| RUMOUR on 18:25 - Sep 18 by majorraglan |
What about the Trust? |
Yes that includes the Trust | | | |
| RUMOUR on 19:09 - Sep 18 with 1187 views | Dewi1jack |
| RUMOUR on 18:42 - Sep 18 by londonlisa2001 |
I love the name he’s given himself.
Wiki says “during his brief reign, Caligula worked to increase the unconstrained personal power of the emperor, as opposed to countervailing powers within the principate. He directed much of his attention to ambitious construction projects and luxurious dwellings for himself “
Someone has a sense of humour. |
Amsterdam tobacco can do that | |
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| RUMOUR on 19:19 - Sep 18 with 1157 views | Uxbridge |
| RUMOUR on 19:07 - Sep 18 by CaligulaSwan |
Well, did not the Trust inner sanctum take the position back then it will “never sell”? A defining moment. What were other investers meant to do? |
No it didn't. It sent a letter to all shareholders in March 2016 saying it would consider a sale. It also said the same on various public statements and articles.
Still, keep on keeping on. | |
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