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I counted today that our squad is about 27 or 28 players so from a numbers perspective I think we are okay. Injuries can affect you at any level and make starting XI different. I don’t see it is as light as you think. We will need a bit of luck we are okay numbers wise
If no-one else comes in, is it finances or football?
“It’s a bit of both, I would count around 27 or 28 players who have indicated they want to be here. That’s a lot of players and I have to take them down to 11 and there will be guys who will still be disappointed not to make the 18. I had a player in Sweden where I had a young player who was in Fourth Division in Sweden and went on to play against Arsenal in Europa League. It’s about development.”
No loans coming in? on 12:53 - Aug 31 by angryjack
What about clubs that have just come up and signed senior pros not kids like us and no parachute payments and no multi million pound assets the y just sold how do they pay next year's wage bill eh
Clubs that have just come up to the Championship are seeing their annual income increase 100%. Of course they've got some millions to spend.
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No loans coming in? on 13:00 - Aug 31 with 1775 views
No loans coming in? on 12:19 - Aug 31 by angryjack
I disagree with that I thought first time around he was bang average scored around 20 goals granted but 6 or 7 were penalties others against nobody's in preliminary round of the Europa and also he was missing more chances than he was putting away,that season he was having chance after chance put in front of him we had creative players behind him with some the best football seen at this club under laudrup I thought he should got a lot more over rated which Man City soon found out then stoke now us again
Ooh careful I got chastise for having g a go about bony back then, they'll all be on in a minute to tell you he's the best player we've ever had ðŸ˜ðŸ˜‚😂
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No loans coming in? on 13:04 - Aug 31 with 1739 views
No loans coming in? on 12:53 - Aug 31 by angryjack
What about clubs that have just come up and signed senior pros not kids like us and no parachute payments and no multi million pound assets the y just sold how do they pay next year's wage bill eh
Ludicrous post. Clubs coming up and are in a much much better position financially than last year. Clubs coming down are in a world of pain financially if not incredibly careful.
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No loans coming in? on 13:06 - Aug 31 with 1723 views
Cut backs have to be made though. The sooner we get back to a level where we are not reliant on parachute payments the better for me. I won’t disagree with anyone who says there have been catastrophic mistakes in recruitment the few seasons but I don’t agree that the yanks are not willing to spend. They invested large sums of the clubs money last season. People moan we still made net profit but then moan at the size of our wage bill, that makes no sense. We’ve spent £4m on one player this summer and our tv revenue for the season is only £6m.
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The clubs money not their money and they invested in utter shite which is why we are here today. We would of been better off with out the yanks.
""Although I cannot promise or predict the future, I can guarantee one thing - the current board of directors will always fight, as we have done over the last 12 years, to work together as one with the Supporters Trust to make 100% sure that Swansea City football club remains the number one priority in all our thoughts and in every decision we make."
3-3 with Stoke, might as well have not scored the two he did. 2-2 with Arsenal his goal was pointless too. I suppose the 1-2 win over Newcastle only one of his two goals mattered, because that was the winning one... He didn't need to score the first one. The exact same situation with the FA cup win against Birmingham, would be stupid to think his other goal mattered too.
Same with the other draws where he was the only goal scorer.
Obviously no point in scoring the 3rd against Cardiff, or many other goals, because beating them 1-0 would have been fine.
And might as well have not bothered in all the games where he scored a few but we still didn't win. Didn't win us points so we might as well have not bothered with the game. In future, when there's a loss no one can say anything bad about the performances of the players because if that one player played a bit better it still didn't matter.
What a stupid statistic.
Did you see that ludicrous display last night?
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No loans coming in? on 13:10 - Aug 31 with 1683 views
No loans coming in? on 12:53 - Aug 31 by angryjack
What about clubs that have just come up and signed senior pros not kids like us and no parachute payments and no multi million pound assets the y just sold how do they pay next year's wage bill eh
When we were coming up, we probably had less money than we have now but we had far fewer leeches.
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No loans coming in? on 13:14 - Aug 31 with 1643 views
And what about money we owe in debt? What about the wages next year when parachute payments reduce? Why do people think we are sitting on a pot of gold because we’ve been in the prem for so long.
If I remember correctly:
Bony; Fer; narsingh; Olsson; routledge; Vdh and grimes are all out of contract at the end of the season.
Leaves the Ayew’s, Carroll, naughton and Dyer as our premier league wage earners.
So wages will reduce next season, substantially so if we can ship the ayew’s and others out.
As for debts - how much are we owed? Selling the ayew debt will not have helped but presumably other clubs owe us money.
Without knowing the actual facts and figures it is difficult to work out exactly where we are financially at the moment and how it will be looking next season.
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No loans coming in? on 13:21 - Aug 31 with 1590 views
No loans coming in? on 13:06 - Aug 31 by Smellyplumz
The clubs money not their money and they invested in utter shite which is why we are here today. We would of been better off with out the yanks.
Yes the clubs money, and yes we are we are because of failed signings. Doesn’t change the situation we are in. I don’t care if it’s the yanks or the Arabs from Dubai in charge, I just don’t want us in administration in 2 years time.
Bony; Fer; narsingh; Olsson; routledge; Vdh and grimes are all out of contract at the end of the season.
Leaves the Ayew’s, Carroll, naughton and Dyer as our premier league wage earners.
So wages will reduce next season, substantially so if we can ship the ayew’s and others out.
As for debts - how much are we owed? Selling the ayew debt will not have helped but presumably other clubs owe us money.
Without knowing the actual facts and figures it is difficult to work out exactly where we are financially at the moment and how it will be looking next season.
And if we don’t sign them to new deals we’ll need to buy more players. I agree nobody knows what the actual financial situation is with money owed in and out and egos earning what but you only have to look at Sunderland last year to see how easy it is to go wrong
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No loans coming in? on 13:37 - Aug 31 with 1485 views
No loans coming in? on 09:06 - Aug 31 by angryjack
Ye let's sign a centre half and put him in midfield why don't we just go and sign a midfielder that would make sense,perhaps he can go in goal when Erwin gets injured as well
You've played football yeah, Jon?
1 minute 28 to 1 minute 40.
The boys got technique, good balance and composure to play further up the field.
Let me know what you think of that clip, honestly now though.
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What you’ve said would be relevant if we were a club that hadn’t just spent 7 years in the richest league in the world.
Even the most naive person must be questioning why for example we can’t get players like woods in for 6.5mill which should be penny’s for us after spending so long in the prem.
You’ve referred back to us last time we were in the championship, yes we were skint but things are completely different now.
They’ve pocketed a lot of the money, simple.
They've not.
You don't understand.
Research and come back again with something sensible
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Your missing one thing. The club ran matters based on cash in not additional investment when in the Premier league. Now we are in the championship there is only a 50 million defect which they have more than covered.
As I said. Asset strippers. No more apologists.
You have said it a few times yeah, and it's embarrassing because you don't understand things.
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No loans coming in? on 12:53 - Aug 31 by angryjack
What about clubs that have just come up and signed senior pros not kids like us and no parachute payments and no multi million pound assets the y just sold how do they pay next year's wage bill eh
Like who then Jon and I'll give you a detailed analysis of how, where they've been and why. Because you're probably talking about Wigan and Blackburn who had dropped down into league 1 FFS from the EPL.
They've been in the wilderness for years and are now finally doing what we're doing, rebuilding carefully.
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And if we don’t sign them to new deals we’ll need to buy more players. I agree nobody knows what the actual financial situation is with money owed in and out and egos earning what but you only have to look at Sunderland last year to see how easy it is to go wrong
Buy, loan or promote youngsters.
This window looks like we will go with what we have, contract negotiations for Fer and VDH especially will give an indication of what is planned for next year.
If talks don’t go well we will be looking to ship them out in January for a fee, they may prefer to run down their contracts.
At the moment so many unknowns
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No loans coming in? on 13:52 - Aug 31 with 1361 views
No loans coming in? on 13:00 - Aug 31 by GeoffThom
Ooh careful I got chastise for having g a go about bony back then, they'll all be on in a minute to tell you he's the best player we've ever had ðŸ˜ðŸ˜‚😂
Bony is the best striker I've ever seen play for the Swans. And that includes Latchford
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Like who then Jon and I'll give you a detailed analysis of how, where they've been and why. Because you're probably talking about Wigan and Blackburn who had dropped down into league 1 FFS from the EPL.
They've been in the wilderness for years and are now finally doing what we're doing, rebuilding carefully.
I could understand if we kept most players and kept them on premiership wages but we have almost got rid of them all,but still collecting the parachute payments we have a wage bill now which must be one the lowest in the league with all the kids and inexperienced players we have signed plus the transfer fees we have accustomed and parachute payments we are receiving,
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No loans coming in? on 13:59 - Aug 31 with 1306 views
Agreed he's got all that, but why on earth would you want to play him out of his best position?
Because Joe has been fine and game time would be good for him, whilst Fulton has had his hand injury and Carrol is meh, so I'd prefer him get a few games as a CDM over the next few weeks than as a CB until Fulton and Few are properly fit and we need rotation again. I want us to actually get a midfielder though.
Did you see that ludicrous display last night?
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No loans coming in? on 14:01 - Aug 31 with 1291 views
No loans coming in? on 13:56 - Aug 31 by shandyjack
if we sign Andy King, then it means we will have signed a Lower end PL player in the championship, so i'd be very happy with that
I am not knocking Andy King, he would be a decent signing.
Where as Potter was finding and signing his own players, it looks like we are still going back for ex players, so id say Huw is looking in his little book of players again.
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No loans coming in? on 14:01 - Aug 31 with 1291 views
The boys got technique, good balance and composure to play further up the field.
Let me know what you think of that clip, honestly now though.
Yes played semi pro in past but any clips can make a player look good if you show all best footage I not saying he ain't good but play him where we signed him for and get into the transfer market and sign a midfielder,,square pegs in round holes to save a few quid
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No loans coming in? on 14:05 - Aug 31 with 1265 views