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Then it goes to show how much more we need to invest in public transport to close the gap. Building more/better roads isn't the only answer. Give the public a viable decent alternative.
I've had the misfortune to use the trains for over twenty years and guess what. After tens of billions of pounds invested what have we got? Network shutdowns every public holiday you can think of...points failures at the drop of a hat...surely staff...and slower times in more uncomfortable carriages than 30 years ago. Oh, and don't forget the most expensive cost of travel anywhere in Europe. Fck the railways. I wouldn't piss on them.
It is a shame that the scheme has been binned. The problem is that we as custodians of this planet have a duty of care not only for people trying to make a living, with all that entails,but also to protect the environment, unfortunately, we cannot always achieve both at the same time, it's a balancing act, one which is difficult to achieve. Sometimes difficult choices have to be made.
I've had the misfortune to use the trains for over twenty years and guess what. After tens of billions of pounds invested what have we got? Network shutdowns every public holiday you can think of...points failures at the drop of a hat...surely staff...and slower times in more uncomfortable carriages than 30 years ago. Oh, and don't forget the most expensive cost of travel anywhere in Europe. Fck the railways. I wouldn't piss on them.
The Welsh integrated transport system in operation:-
On Saturday 2,000 people cycled from Cardiff to Tenby raising hundreds of thousands of pounds for local charities.
On Sunday those returning from Tenby by rail were greeted by a jobsworth transport for Wales train manager insisting on a maximum 2 bikes per train.
Listening to Drakeford the reasons given were financial and not environmental.
Therefore,.it would seem that should the financial uncertainty be removed,,the project could yet be given the go ahead.
The Severn crossing generated a turnover in excess of £100m in 2016, they could have kept the fee for a few extra years and used the money to help fund the new road. Once sorted they could have stopped charging.
Wouldn’t acquisition of First Cymru be a great opportunity for Swansea to follow both Cardiff Bus and Newport Bus in demonstrating how good public service provision can produce returns for the taxpayer rather than profits for the shareholder? https://t.co/RMM4hVKE7S
— Adam Price 🏴🏳️🌈 (@Adamprice) June 4, 2019
I'm sure many people in this thread recycle their plastics (which get shipped to Asia and dumped into rivers and then the sea). I'm sure many are against the use of fossil fuels and want to help the planet. I'm sure there's a few who think the deforestation in places like the Amazon is awful as well.
Yet you're happy to see Wales' Amazon get irreversibly destroyed if it means speeding up a car journey. It's just like the Swansea Bay Tidal Lagoon situation all over again, where one of Swansea's key wildlife habitats would have been irreversibly destroyed and turned into a white elephant (also concrete).
They've had 18 years to come up with another idea. People should be sacked over this waste of £44,000,000.
I'm sure many people in this thread recycle their plastics (which get shipped to Asia and dumped into rivers and then the sea). I'm sure many are against the use of fossil fuels and want to help the planet. I'm sure there's a few who think the deforestation in places like the Amazon is awful as well.
Yet you're happy to see Wales' Amazon get irreversibly destroyed if it means speeding up a car journey. It's just like the Swansea Bay Tidal Lagoon situation all over again, where one of Swansea's key wildlife habitats would have been irreversibly destroyed and turned into a white elephant (also concrete).
They've had 18 years to come up with another idea. People should be sacked over this waste of £44,000,000.
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A concrete elephant is a great idea. Perhaps we could get a whole herd of them and they could become a tourist attraction like the Milton Keynes cows.
Good thinking Dwight.
Planet Swans Prediction League Winner Season 2013-14. Runner up 2014_15.
I'm sure many people in this thread recycle their plastics (which get shipped to Asia and dumped into rivers and then the sea). I'm sure many are against the use of fossil fuels and want to help the planet. I'm sure there's a few who think the deforestation in places like the Amazon is awful as well.
Yet you're happy to see Wales' Amazon get irreversibly destroyed if it means speeding up a car journey. It's just like the Swansea Bay Tidal Lagoon situation all over again, where one of Swansea's key wildlife habitats would have been irreversibly destroyed and turned into a white elephant (also concrete).
They've had 18 years to come up with another idea. People should be sacked over this waste of £44,000,000.
[Post edited 5 Jun 2019 12:24]
£44 million...........BBC news just quoted £100 million !!! Its bl@@dy scandalous.
I've had the misfortune to use the trains for over twenty years and guess what. After tens of billions of pounds invested what have we got? Network shutdowns every public holiday you can think of...points failures at the drop of a hat...surely staff...and slower times in more uncomfortable carriages than 30 years ago. Oh, and don't forget the most expensive cost of travel anywhere in Europe. Fck the railways. I wouldn't piss on them.
I start a new job in Gloucester on Monday, going up on the train on Sunday will take 3hrs. 3hrs to Gloucester from Port Talbot ffs!
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Ever since my son was... never conceived, because I've never had consensual sex without money involved... I've always kind of looked at you as... a thing, that I could live next to... in accordance with state laws.
I've been on trains where cyclists have been utter c0cks. One put his bike in seats reserved for disabled people; someone in a wheelchair got on the next stop, full kit w@nker refused to move his bike until several passengers suggested it would be in his best interests, health wise, to do so.
I've been on trains where cyclists have been utter c0cks. One put his bike in seats reserved for disabled people; someone in a wheelchair got on the next stop, full kit w@nker refused to move his bike until several passengers suggested it would be in his best interests, health wise, to do so.
One person with a bike ( obviously not a Cartener) is a knob.
So are you.
Maybe trains should have space for wheelchairs AND Bikes.
So how many extra carriages should have been arranged and who pays for them?
Plus you'd figure the cyclists are pretty fvcking lazy to take the train rather than cycling...
Just hope Bluey that none of your family ever require the services of Velindre, Marie Currie, JDRF, Tenovus,, Ty Hafan or the children's hospital Wales.
Carten100 Total raised to date:
Over £1,005,086!!!
Main Charity Total Raised in year 2006 Ty Hafan £6,068.00 2007 Joshua Foundation £5,201.35 2008 Ty Hafan £6,007.00 2009 Ty Hafan £10,245.50 2010 Ty Hafan £21,138.83 2011 Velindre Fundraising £49,160.87 2012 JDRF £85,793.98 2013 Noah's Ark £80,062.59 2014 Marie Curie £86,013.00 2015 Velindre Fundraising £133,963.00 2016 Noah's Ark £110,813.00 2017 JDRF £263,150.00 2018 Tenovus - Closer to Home Velindre Cancer Centre £147,469.00
I've been on trains where cyclists have been utter c0cks. One put his bike in seats reserved for disabled people; someone in a wheelchair got on the next stop, full kit w@nker refused to move his bike until several passengers suggested it would be in his best interests, health wise, to do so.
ECB
Another one for DHOTYA, planet swans edition.
I want a mate like Flashberryjacks, who wears a Barnsley jersey with "Swans are my second team" on the back.
Just hope Bluey that none of your family ever require the services of Velindre, Marie Currie, JDRF, Tenovus,, Ty Hafan or the children's hospital Wales.
Carten100 Total raised to date:
Over £1,005,086!!!
Main Charity Total Raised in year 2006 Ty Hafan £6,068.00 2007 Joshua Foundation £5,201.35 2008 Ty Hafan £6,007.00 2009 Ty Hafan £10,245.50 2010 Ty Hafan £21,138.83 2011 Velindre Fundraising £49,160.87 2012 JDRF £85,793.98 2013 Noah's Ark £80,062.59 2014 Marie Curie £86,013.00 2015 Velindre Fundraising £133,963.00 2016 Noah's Ark £110,813.00 2017 JDRF £263,150.00 2018 Tenovus - Closer to Home Velindre Cancer Centre £147,469.00
Just hope Bluey that none of your family ever require the services of Velindre, Marie Currie, JDRF, Tenovus,, Ty Hafan or the children's hospital Wales.
Carten100 Total raised to date:
Over £1,005,086!!!
Main Charity Total Raised in year 2006 Ty Hafan £6,068.00 2007 Joshua Foundation £5,201.35 2008 Ty Hafan £6,007.00 2009 Ty Hafan £10,245.50 2010 Ty Hafan £21,138.83 2011 Velindre Fundraising £49,160.87 2012 JDRF £85,793.98 2013 Noah's Ark £80,062.59 2014 Marie Curie £86,013.00 2015 Velindre Fundraising £133,963.00 2016 Noah's Ark £110,813.00 2017 JDRF £263,150.00 2018 Tenovus - Closer to Home Velindre Cancer Centre £147,469.00
GRAND TOTAL £1,005,086.12
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A great achievement, certainly.
What the hell it has to do with the entitlement of some cyclists on public transport is a different question.
One person with a bike ( obviously not a Cartener) is a knob.
So are you.
Maybe trains should have space for wheelchairs AND Bikes.
It all depends upon the train route.
When space for bikes is at maximum capacity, non cyclists have to take priority on busy services.
Now, in the case you raise, did the group think to contact local rail services, explain situation, see what could be arranged or was it a case of just turning up and expecting carriages to be around half full of passengers to be able to carry bikes on?
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