| Offensive or simply the truth? 09:39 - Oct 24 with 4945 views | Professor |
Palace fans unfurled a banner yesterday at the Holmesdale
End over the Saudi takeover of Newcastle and the apparent blindness of any fit and proper person test once the money is on the table. My view is that they were entitled to do that,
To highlight an often brutal and murderous regime but seen as ‘our friends’.
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| Offensive or simply the truth? on 09:48 - Oct 24 with 4911 views | pikeypaul |
They would not care a toss and love it if it were them the Saudis decided to buy.
The same with us,if they decided to buy us 6 years ago and we were top 5 premiership no fecker would complain.
Jealousy pure and simple.
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| Offensive or simply the truth? on 09:54 - Oct 24 with 4898 views | BillyChong |
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| Offensive or simply the truth? on 09:54 - Oct 24 with 4897 views | monmouth |
Absolutely on the money (sorry).
The police getting involved is a joke. |  |
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| Offensive or simply the truth? on 10:02 - Oct 24 with 4883 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
Unfortunately there is a list of questionable owners from Abu Dhabi, China, Russia etc. Then there are the pornographers and bookmakers, the list of potentially unfit owners is really quite long.
So whilst the recent events at Newcastle are met with outrage in some parts, the wider picture of ownership that has been tolerated for years remains unchecked. People don't consider the wider context these days, they react to what they read / are told without consideration [Post edited 24 Oct 2021 10:18]
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| Offensive or simply the truth? on 10:06 - Oct 24 with 4875 views | monmouth |
| Offensive or simply the truth? on 10:02 - Oct 24 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Unfortunately there is a list of questionable owners from Abu Dhabi, China, Russia etc. Then there are the pornographers and bookmakers, the list of potentially unfit owners is really quite long.
So whilst the recent events at Newcastle are met with outrage in some parts, the wider picture of ownership that has been tolerated for years remains unchecked. People don't consider the wider context these days, they react to what they read / are told without consideration [Post edited 24 Oct 2021 10:18]
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Agree about the hypocrisy but if this helps draw the line then good. It won’t though.
It is quite amusing seeing the likes of the dildo brothers and Glazers getting all outraged. | |
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| Offensive or simply the truth? on 10:22 - Oct 24 with 4844 views | KeithHaynes |
I’m sure there’s a case for a regime which supports these human rights abuses to be considered fit and proper to run Newcastle United. I mean the Chelsea guy isn’t a saint. People with power and money will always win the day. That’s how it works. |  |
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| Offensive or simply the truth? on 10:24 - Oct 24 with 4843 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Offensive or simply the truth? on 10:06 - Oct 24 by monmouth |
Agree about the hypocrisy but if this helps draw the line then good. It won’t though.
It is quite amusing seeing the likes of the dildo brothers and Glazers getting all outraged. |
Yes, the money from various sources helps maintain the Premier League and it is in the interests of those who run it to allow the money in and try to pretend they have high standards. Of course, many countries do a whole range of business with Saudi, China etc. so there is an argument that says why single out football? | |
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| Offensive or simply the truth? on 10:29 - Oct 24 with 4838 views | Catullus |
I think the takeover should have been stopped but then, as said, the stable door has been open for a long time and those horses have already bolted. Far too many EPL owners are dodgy.
Just Man United, how could they be allowed to buy that club but put the debt down as the clubs debt? Us ordinary folk could never do that but the rich get what they want.
To answer Pikey, no, I'd hate it if we were bought by a Saudi conglomerate. At least our owners seem to be proper business people, not crooks or murderers. | |
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| Offensive or simply the truth? on 10:41 - Oct 24 with 4808 views | Badlands |
They can do it and IMO the Saudi regime needs to be exposed but 4 things to consider ...
The UK sells them millions of ££££ of arms and items tat can (and it seems) are used for torture.
Like it or not the Suadi's control oil and therefore underpins much of the West's capitalistic tenancies.
Removing the ruling families would be almost impossible and the resulting power vacuum in the Middle East would make other regime changes in the area seem like a family squabble.
The rulers of Russian, USA and Israel are little if no better but they are considered acceptable friends. |  |
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| Offensive or simply the truth? on 12:11 - Oct 24 with 4753 views | max936 |
A lot of very rich Saudi's are said to be the biggest allies of terrorist organisation's. |  |
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| Offensive or simply the truth? on 12:21 - Oct 24 with 4744 views | monmouth |
This is about the banner isn’t it, which is simply true.
If there were verifiable claims against others then similar banners would be equally acceptable. | |
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| Offensive or simply the truth? on 13:16 - Oct 24 with 4688 views | onehunglow |
It must surely be the human rights issue in Saudi.
However having a World Cup in Qatar is worse.
Football really is filthy.
Either swamped with Betting or Oil bandits countries | |
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| Offensive or simply the truth? on 15:12 - Oct 24 with 4619 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
It the World cup and should be shared around. It is not the "Social Democratic Christian World cup".
Unfortunately in the Muslim world there are very few democratic governments. In Arabia it is the ruling elite who we can make deals with or or Daesh who we cannot. The country although a harsh monarchy has peace wealth and generally the people seem to consent to the Monarchy as far as I know.
It seems they want to gradually reform their culture and economy for a post oil world. It seems to me we should not block this path. The more their leaders are educated in UK
universities the better. USA and UK are not exactly free of executing its opponents these day by drones. |  |
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| Offensive or simply the truth? on 18:27 - Oct 24 with 4516 views | Sirjohnalot |
No offence committed here, they’re not saying all people of a religion/country etc are doing what’s said on the banner, only the people involved. Also some justification in what they say, not a police matter as there’s no law against being offended.
Had the club not raised such a fuss, it’s unlikely anyone would be talking about it |  | | |
| Offensive or simply the truth? on 18:59 - Oct 24 with 4494 views | Dewi1jack |
| Offensive or simply the truth? on 10:02 - Oct 24 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Unfortunately there is a list of questionable owners from Abu Dhabi, China, Russia etc. Then there are the pornographers and bookmakers, the list of potentially unfit owners is really quite long.
So whilst the recent events at Newcastle are met with outrage in some parts, the wider picture of ownership that has been tolerated for years remains unchecked. People don't consider the wider context these days, they react to what they read / are told without consideration [Post edited 24 Oct 2021 10:18]
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This.
That flag is true, but shutting the stable door springs to mind
The "Fit and Proper" persons test in football is a joke.
Leeds, Portsmouth and so many other clubs can testify to that.
So much corruption, betting scandals, backhanders in local and World football.
Money buys power, power corrupts and gets away with it.
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| Offensive or simply the truth? on 20:27 - Oct 24 with 4449 views | Flashberryjack |
| Offensive or simply the truth? on 13:16 - Oct 24 by onehunglow |
It must surely be the human rights issue in Saudi.
However having a World Cup in Qatar is worse.
Football really is filthy.
Either swamped with Betting or Oil bandits countries |
Yep, taking the knee every week, but are busting a gut to get to Qatar for the FIFA world cup.
David Beckham becomes football ambassador for Qatar, reportedly raking in £150 million.
Utter hypocrisy. |  |
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| Offensive or simply the truth? on 21:26 - Oct 24 with 4386 views | onehunglow |
| Offensive or simply the truth? on 20:27 - Oct 24 by Flashberryjack |
Yep, taking the knee every week, but are busting a gut to get to Qatar for the FIFA world cup.
David Beckham becomes football ambassador for Qatar, reportedly raking in £150 million.
Utter hypocrisy. |
When the decision was announced ,the "enlightened " pre eminent football countries should have immediately announced a boycott.
Beckham is the ultimate hypocrite.A perfect example . | |
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| Offensive or simply the truth? on 22:49 - Oct 26 with 4200 views | jackrabbit |
| Offensive or simply the truth? on 10:02 - Oct 24 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Unfortunately there is a list of questionable owners from Abu Dhabi, China, Russia etc. Then there are the pornographers and bookmakers, the list of potentially unfit owners is really quite long.
So whilst the recent events at Newcastle are met with outrage in some parts, the wider picture of ownership that has been tolerated for years remains unchecked. People don't consider the wider context these days, they react to what they read / are told without consideration [Post edited 24 Oct 2021 10:18]
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So true. Sadly, as somebody said recently, the average football fan couldn’t give a toss if their club was taken over by a syndicate headed by Pol Pot and Genghis Khan, as long as they could get them into the Europa League.
On a similar theme at Old Trafford on Sunday, the disgraced Paul Pogba, as he left the field having rightfully been shown the red card, was harangued for his shirt by imploring United fans - by no means all children. In more discerning times he would have been loudly castigated and had unsavoury objects thrown at him for leaving his team short handed at a time of desperate need - 5 nil down on his own patch! Football fans in general can be sometimes found somewhat lacking when it comes to responding appropriately to events! [Post edited 26 Oct 2021 22:51]
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| Offensive or simply the truth? on 08:01 - Oct 27 with 4140 views | Dr_Winston |
| Offensive or simply the truth? on 22:49 - Oct 26 by jackrabbit |
So true. Sadly, as somebody said recently, the average football fan couldn’t give a toss if their club was taken over by a syndicate headed by Pol Pot and Genghis Khan, as long as they could get them into the Europa League.
On a similar theme at Old Trafford on Sunday, the disgraced Paul Pogba, as he left the field having rightfully been shown the red card, was harangued for his shirt by imploring United fans - by no means all children. In more discerning times he would have been loudly castigated and had unsavoury objects thrown at him for leaving his team short handed at a time of desperate need - 5 nil down on his own patch! Football fans in general can be sometimes found somewhat lacking when it comes to responding appropriately to events! [Post edited 26 Oct 2021 22:51]
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We've got plenty of fans who would throw themselves behind the Pot/Khan consortium. They can usually be found whinging about "investment" and "ambition".
They don't actually care where the money comes from as long as its spent, despite the feigned outrage over things like gambling. If the Coates family sold Stoke and pitched up here they'd be ecstatic. [Post edited 27 Oct 2021 8:02]
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| Offensive or simply the truth? on 11:13 - Oct 27 with 4091 views | onehunglow |
| Offensive or simply the truth? on 22:49 - Oct 26 by jackrabbit |
So true. Sadly, as somebody said recently, the average football fan couldn’t give a toss if their club was taken over by a syndicate headed by Pol Pot and Genghis Khan, as long as they could get them into the Europa League.
On a similar theme at Old Trafford on Sunday, the disgraced Paul Pogba, as he left the field having rightfully been shown the red card, was harangued for his shirt by imploring United fans - by no means all children. In more discerning times he would have been loudly castigated and had unsavoury objects thrown at him for leaving his team short handed at a time of desperate need - 5 nil down on his own patch! Football fans in general can be sometimes found somewhat lacking when it comes to responding appropriately to events! [Post edited 26 Oct 2021 22:51]
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Amen.
Im afraid when that amount of wealth takes over ALL fans will have it.
Nobody is going to convince me of, say , Terry Matthews had decided to take us on and build us a 50,000 state of the art stadium and employ top players and manager and get us to the Champions League,that the fans would have prefered the status quo.
In sport ,we really are all hypocrites.
Newcastle was seen as a real fans club for the people.That has now gone having been bought by the Saudis | |
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