| Players for next season 11:07 - Apr 7 with 6384 views | DALEYCADDERS |
Out of the current squad which of them would you keep and which ones would you get rid of? Also who are possible transfer targets? |  | | |  |
| Players for next season on 11:29 - Apr 7 with 4866 views | 442Dale |
Lillis, Donnelly and Grant are under contract
Keep:
Collis, if he wants to stay.
Edwards
Bennett
Rose
Henderson
JK
Cavanagh
Grimes and Tutte will probably go but I feel Hill might enjoy working with both, so they may wish to reconsider. If not, fine. Keep BBM for the coaching staff with a playing contract for emergencies and to fill the bench. SCS is a strange one, we'd have him but if he's got another year at Preston it'll be unlikely, if not he'd have to accept a drop in wages.
Release:
Rafferty
Pearson
Minihan
Byrne
McIntyre
Haworth
R Jones
Gornell
Need a right back, centre half, midfielder, proper winger, COG type centre forward.
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| Players for next season on 11:36 - Apr 7 with 4832 views | isitme |
| Players for next season on 11:29 - Apr 7 by 442Dale |
Lillis, Donnelly and Grant are under contract
Keep:
Collis, if he wants to stay.
Edwards
Bennett
Rose
Henderson
JK
Cavanagh
Grimes and Tutte will probably go but I feel Hill might enjoy working with both, so they may wish to reconsider. If not, fine. Keep BBM for the coaching staff with a playing contract for emergencies and to fill the bench. SCS is a strange one, we'd have him but if he's got another year at Preston it'll be unlikely, if not he'd have to accept a drop in wages.
Release:
Rafferty
Pearson
Minihan
Byrne
McIntyre
Haworth
R Jones
Gornell
Need a right back, centre half, midfielder, proper winger, COG type centre forward.
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I would agree with that apart from Cavanagh. He is probably on a decent wage and I feel that we should use the money saved for a pacey, physical presence in the centre of the park to play alongside Kennedy (assuming that he re-signs).
I suppose with some players it will come down to value within the squad's budget. Would an offer that Grimes accepts be better spent on a dominant centre back to play alongside Edwards?
Signing Henderson should be a priority. I believe he has recently relocated to the North West so hopefully a two year contract with a reasonable release fee in it could secure his signing. A sort of take a lower wage for more security and earn your move to a bigger club.
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| Players for next season on 11:48 - Apr 7 with 4804 views | 442Dale |
Cavanagh is at a crossroads in his career; if he's bought into what Hill is doing he may well accept reduced terms to prolong his time in the game at a decent level. If not it could mean a move into non league and bouncing around clubs for the next few years. His attitude and performances have been deserving of a new deal though. | |
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| Players for next season on 11:50 - Apr 7 with 4792 views | isitme |
| Players for next season on 11:48 - Apr 7 by 442Dale |
Cavanagh is at a crossroads in his career; if he's bought into what Hill is doing he may well accept reduced terms to prolong his time in the game at a decent level. If not it could mean a move into non league and bouncing around clubs for the next few years. His attitude and performances have been deserving of a new deal though. |
I agree that he attitude and performances have been good recently, but again it comes down to value for money. As you said would he take reduced terms to be a squad player rather than a starter? | | | |
| Players for next season on 11:57 - Apr 7 with 4773 views | ChaffRAFC |
Offer deals to:
Kennedy
Tutte
P Edwards
Henderson
Grimes
Bennett
Rafferty
Rose
Cavanagh
Tutte, Grimes and JK may well leave anyway, as may Henderson to be fair but I'd like to keep all of them.
Release:
McIntyre
Adebola
Byrne
M Edwards
Pearson
Gornell
Abadaki
Minihan
Watson
Haworth
Curran
Collis
Thomas
BBM should be offered a coaching role at least. If we can't prise Gary Jones away from Bradford to be assistant manager to Keith Hill then I'd offer that player/assistant role to BBM without a seconds hesitation.
Transfer targets:
A sub keeper, I suppose it wouldn't be too bad if Collis stays given he's probably on a small wage.
I'd try and make SCS's deal a permanent one.
A lot depends on messrs Tutte and Kennedy as to whether we need to strengthen in the centre of midfield but I'd offer Jamie Allen a pro-contract and he can be back-up.
We'll need another forward to replace Gornell and potentially another to replace Grimes. |  |
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| Players for next season on 12:02 - Apr 7 with 4752 views | ColDale |
gut feeling is that a decision may have been made on Grimes yesterday afternoon, in what otherwise was a very good display by him. |  | | |
| Players for next season on 12:06 - Apr 7 with 4736 views | SaxonDale |
Offer deals to:
Kennedy
Tutte
P Edwards
Henderson
Bennett
Release the rest. |  | | |
| Players for next season on 12:08 - Apr 7 with 4727 views | zxcvbnm |
| Players for next season on 12:02 - Apr 7 by ColDale |
gut feeling is that a decision may have been made on Grimes yesterday afternoon, in what otherwise was a very good display by him. |
I'd say that Grimes has made his decision anyway - off to rotherham in the summer regardless |  |
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| Players for next season on 12:38 - Apr 7 with 4670 views | blakeyj |
Everyone is saying that we should release our youngster like rafferty, pearson, byrne, minihan, abdakietc but i cant see us releasing young players like that
Also I remember reece grey having a serious injury at the start of this season is he still with us when he is likely to return and do you think he will get a contract |  | | |
| Players for next season on 12:40 - Apr 7 with 4662 views | SalwaDale |
This may seem a strange thing to say but I really don't care. If Hill wants rid then I'm happy with that, if he's seen enough to believe that the players can buy into what he will do then I'm happy for them to stay. He will have seen enough and know enough about the players to decide who stays and who goes, and I include the contracted players in that. I only want players who want to be at Dale, although I hope Kennedy and Henderson fit into that category. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| Players for next season on 13:22 - Apr 7 with 4612 views | dale10 |
keep rafferty and as for cavanagh he can go tomorrow for me brings nothing to the team apart from waveing his arms about 1 of the worse players i have ever seen in a dale shirt | | | |
| Players for next season on 13:30 - Apr 7 with 4592 views | TalkingSutty |
| Players for next season on 12:40 - Apr 7 by SalwaDale |
This may seem a strange thing to say but I really don't care. If Hill wants rid then I'm happy with that, if he's seen enough to believe that the players can buy into what he will do then I'm happy for them to stay. He will have seen enough and know enough about the players to decide who stays and who goes, and I include the contracted players in that. I only want players who want to be at Dale, although I hope Kennedy and Henderson fit into that category. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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Agree with that, we have to trust Hillys judgement. I dont see the point in him trying to persuade players to stay at the club, if they want to go show them the door. |  | | |
| Players for next season on 13:33 - Apr 7 with 4588 views | olympicdale |
Im not sure why we are so eager to replace players like Rafferty an Pearson, the former came in from the wilderness yesterday and did a good job, we will need a squad and cant afford to lose too many. Id even like to keep Mcintyre, again to have him as a squad player in emergencies.
The main priority has to be recruiting Hendo, surely a move back to the north west could be a big swinging point, it would be a mini coup if we could get him perminently. |  |
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| Players for next season on 15:00 - Apr 7 with 4505 views | StudiousDale |
Am I the only one who'd like us to keep Gornell? Obviously I'd rather we kept Hendo if it came to a choice.
Also, a beyond broken toy IMO with the amount of controversies in his short past, but do you think Hilly could offer Nile Ranger a way back into football? |  | | |
| Players for next season on 15:18 - Apr 7 with 4467 views | hull_dale19 |
I'd offer Cav, JK, Tutte, Rose, Henderson, Rafferty, Gray and Edwards new deals, also see if we can make The Sherriff's loan deal permanent. Release the rest
Grimes can go for me, yes he's talented but doesn't show it enough. He has good games but they're far too sporadic.
A player I'd like to see here next season is Lee Molyneux at Accy, will be on low wages and he looks like a good player at this level | | | |
| Players for next season on 15:20 - Apr 7 with 4457 views | SteTsGoldenBoot |
| Players for next season on 12:40 - Apr 7 by SalwaDale |
This may seem a strange thing to say but I really don't care. If Hill wants rid then I'm happy with that, if he's seen enough to believe that the players can buy into what he will do then I'm happy for them to stay. He will have seen enough and know enough about the players to decide who stays and who goes, and I include the contracted players in that. I only want players who want to be at Dale, although I hope Kennedy and Henderson fit into that category. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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I feel that Hilly choosing to tell us yesterday (the day we virtually secured our league status) that there had been 'battles' and 'verbal fights' with the players on how they should play and train, will have a massive bearing on who stays and who go's.
Keith Hill is the boss, he has had to play the situation with kid gloves as he has almost gate crashed and had to dismantle someone elses team, while stopping the most rottenest of rots that was within our club.
The second he no longer has to put up with the characters that have dared to fight him, the 'revolving door' will be in overdrive I would have thought!
I can see less than 5 of the current squad being offered terms, but as you say WD i'll go 100% with what Hilly goes for, with JK and Hendo a 'nice to have'.
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| Players for next season on 15:23 - Apr 7 with 4442 views | Yorkshire_Dale |
| Players for next season on 11:36 - Apr 7 by isitme |
I would agree with that apart from Cavanagh. He is probably on a decent wage and I feel that we should use the money saved for a pacey, physical presence in the centre of the park to play alongside Kennedy (assuming that he re-signs).
I suppose with some players it will come down to value within the squad's budget. Would an offer that Grimes accepts be better spent on a dominant centre back to play alongside Edwards?
Signing Henderson should be a priority. I believe he has recently relocated to the North West so hopefully a two year contract with a reasonable release fee in it could secure his signing. A sort of take a lower wage for more security and earn your move to a bigger club.
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Concur with the Cav situation.......better players around,get rid.Still smells of Coleman to me.
I would have thought Rafferty is worth a punt. | | | |
| Players for next season on 15:31 - Apr 7 with 4416 views | SalwaDale |
| Players for next season on 15:18 - Apr 7 by hull_dale19 |
I'd offer Cav, JK, Tutte, Rose, Henderson, Rafferty, Gray and Edwards new deals, also see if we can make The Sherriff's loan deal permanent. Release the rest
Grimes can go for me, yes he's talented but doesn't show it enough. He has good games but they're far too sporadic.
A player I'd like to see here next season is Lee Molyneux at Accy, will be on low wages and he looks like a good player at this level |
Molyneux rumoured to be signing for Fleetwood. | |
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| Players for next season on 15:34 - Apr 7 with 4409 views | olympicdale |
| Players for next season on 15:00 - Apr 7 by StudiousDale |
Am I the only one who'd like us to keep Gornell? Obviously I'd rather we kept Hendo if it came to a choice.
Also, a beyond broken toy IMO with the amount of controversies in his short past, but do you think Hilly could offer Nile Ranger a way back into football? |
Gornell can go for me, he's done jack all since he's been here bar a couple decent cameos. Unlike Donnelly who has stepped up to the plate since Hills arrival, Gornell hasn't done owt to impress imo, granted he got injured, but I just dont see anything that says we should look to offer him a deal, especially if it means not being able to offer Henderson something. Niles Ranger is too broke, wouldn't touch him personally, not a good player for the dressing room. | |
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| Players for next season on 19:11 - Apr 7 with 4295 views | Shun |
What's Gray's situation? Is he out of contract? |  | | |
| Players for next season on 19:32 - Apr 7 with 4267 views | NotEyreClue |
Rafferty just isn't good enough in my opinion.
Cavanagh is great at what he does and has been a very consistent performer in recent weeks. They were lambasting the decision to release him on the Fleetwood forum yesterday because he was also one of their most consistent performers and they must have been impressed with him yesterday to bring it up.
I agree with the general consensus about the other players. |  |
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| Players for next season on 20:03 - Apr 7 with 4221 views | zxcvbnm |
| Players for next season on 11:57 - Apr 7 by ChaffRAFC |
Offer deals to:
Kennedy
Tutte
P Edwards
Henderson
Grimes
Bennett
Rafferty
Rose
Cavanagh
Tutte, Grimes and JK may well leave anyway, as may Henderson to be fair but I'd like to keep all of them.
Release:
McIntyre
Adebola
Byrne
M Edwards
Pearson
Gornell
Abadaki
Minihan
Watson
Haworth
Curran
Collis
Thomas
BBM should be offered a coaching role at least. If we can't prise Gary Jones away from Bradford to be assistant manager to Keith Hill then I'd offer that player/assistant role to BBM without a seconds hesitation.
Transfer targets:
A sub keeper, I suppose it wouldn't be too bad if Collis stays given he's probably on a small wage.
I'd try and make SCS's deal a permanent one.
A lot depends on messrs Tutte and Kennedy as to whether we need to strengthen in the centre of midfield but I'd offer Jamie Allen a pro-contract and he can be back-up.
We'll need another forward to replace Gornell and potentially another to replace Grimes. |
I'd think Allen, Logan and O'Connor will get deals. As for the rest Tanser maybe | |
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| Players for next season on 20:05 - Apr 7 with 4211 views | sweetcorn |
| Players for next season on 19:32 - Apr 7 by NotEyreClue |
Rafferty just isn't good enough in my opinion.
Cavanagh is great at what he does and has been a very consistent performer in recent weeks. They were lambasting the decision to release him on the Fleetwood forum yesterday because he was also one of their most consistent performers and they must have been impressed with him yesterday to bring it up.
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Disagree about rafferty, personally think he's a talented footballer who is suffering from a lack of confidence and inexperience at league level.
Could personally see him developing into a very good right-back at this level, the question is whether we have the time, patience and money to wait to see if this comes to fruition.
As for players i'd keep (ignoring whether they'll accept or not) would be:
Cavanagh
Rose
Bennett
Phil Edwards
Cansdell-Sheriff
Cavanagh
JK
Tutte
Henderson
Gornell (Depending on if he can recapture the form whilst on loan)
Gray
Rafferty (Again the deal must suit the club, as its likely he wont be a starter)
Plus the players already contracted: Lillis, Donnelly, Grant
We have the basis of what could become a good squad in my opinion, If Hill can add some of the quality we already know he can find we may be building a squad capable of pushing for a play-off spot or dare i say, promotion. |  |
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| Players for next season on 20:12 - Apr 7 with 4196 views | sweetcorn |
| Players for next season on 15:18 - Apr 7 by hull_dale19 |
I'd offer Cav, JK, Tutte, Rose, Henderson, Rafferty, Gray and Edwards new deals, also see if we can make The Sherriff's loan deal permanent. Release the rest
Grimes can go for me, yes he's talented but doesn't show it enough. He has good games but they're far too sporadic.
A player I'd like to see here next season is Lee Molyneux at Accy, will be on low wages and he looks like a good player at this level |
No i'm with you on Gornell.
Was my favourite Dale player over the festive period. That performance at Bradford was superb, hopefully he'll prove himself in the remaining games. | |
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| Players for next season on 20:28 - Apr 7 with 4169 views | NotEyreClue |
| Players for next season on 20:05 - Apr 7 by sweetcorn |
Disagree about rafferty, personally think he's a talented footballer who is suffering from a lack of confidence and inexperience at league level.
Could personally see him developing into a very good right-back at this level, the question is whether we have the time, patience and money to wait to see if this comes to fruition.
As for players i'd keep (ignoring whether they'll accept or not) would be:
Cavanagh
Rose
Bennett
Phil Edwards
Cansdell-Sheriff
Cavanagh
JK
Tutte
Henderson
Gornell (Depending on if he can recapture the form whilst on loan)
Gray
Rafferty (Again the deal must suit the club, as its likely he wont be a starter)
Plus the players already contracted: Lillis, Donnelly, Grant
We have the basis of what could become a good squad in my opinion, If Hill can add some of the quality we already know he can find we may be building a squad capable of pushing for a play-off spot or dare i say, promotion. |
I think he's fairly good at getting forward but from what I've seen, he really struggles when it comes to defending. He is only young and could develop but he wouldn't be playing regularly next season and I'm not sure if him sitting on the bench would be of any value to him or the club. For what it's worth, I thought he was comfortably our worst player yesterday but maybe that is down to not playing many games recently.
That starting XI yesterday with Bennett coming in at RB could definitely get play-offs next season at the very least...it's just a case of who we can manage to keep I suppose.
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