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Injury Updates
at 19:39 21 Nov 2024

Apologies, I missed the music behind the words.
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Injury Updates
at 19:30 21 Nov 2024

Therein lies the problem, B. Thanks to minimal communication until now, we don't know if that's really the case. You're giving the club the benefit of the doubt but the opposite could also be true. Keeping their cards close to their chest only fuels speculation.
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RIP Vic Flck and John Prescott
at 19:26 21 Nov 2024

Me neither. RIP Vic Flick.
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Ownership of QPR
at 18:57 21 Nov 2024

Not quite. As tempting as it is to lay all of the blame on Harry, the acute rise in wage bill started with his predecessors in the Premier League.

The grotesque spending started in 2011-12 with Neil Warnock bringing in Jay Bothroyd, Kieron Dyer, Danny Gabbidon, DJ Campbell, Joey Barton, Luke Young, Armand Traore, SWP and Anton Ferdinand. Mark Hughes replaced Warnock mid-season and added Nedum Onuoha, Djibril Cisse and Bobby Zamora in the January transfer window. We stayed up by the skin of our teeth.

Despite flirting with relegation, QPR doubled down for 2012-13 season. Hughes added the likes of Ryan Nelson, Andy Johnson, Robert Green, Samba Diakite, Park Ji-Sung, Junior Hoilett, Jose Bosingwa, Julio Cesar, Esteban Granero and Stephane Mbia to the squad.
Despite the additions, QPR suffered a shocking start to the season and Hughes was duly replaced by Redknapp in November 2012. Harry began his spending by adding Ben Haim, Loic Remy, Christopher Samba, and Jermaine Jenas in the January transfer window.

The problem was QPR were relegated to the Championship in 2013 with a clutch of players on huge long-term contracts. Whilst we did manage to get rid of a few, many were either released by mutual consent (which involves a pay-off) or loaned out (with QPR still paying the lion's share of wages). To compound matters, for the 2013-14 campaign Harry added the likes of Danny Simpson, Richard Dunne, Karl Henry, Charlie Austin, Gary O'Neil, Matt Phillips, Aaron Hughes and Yossi Benayoun to the ranks as well as loaning in Benoit Assou-Ekotto, Tom Carroll, Niko Kranjcar, Kevin Doyle and Ravel Morrison. As you say we scraped promotion to the PL via the play-offs only to be relegated once again with significant wage bill still in place.

Now, managers don't set budgets. They spend what they're given. The arrival of Fernandes and Ruben signalled a change in strategy. They were the ones who sanctioned all of the above spending and therefore they are the ones who are responsible for the financial mess which ensued and the position we now find ourselves in.
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Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out
at 20:19 19 Nov 2024

It's not going to plan unless, of course, the plan was to be bottom of the league in November, 5 points adrift of safety, with one of the most incapable teams we've seen in a long time.

For me the problem is not so much trying to change too much too soon, but more about not understanding your requirements and buying the players you actually need.

It was clear at the end of last season that QPR needed a goalkeeper (to replace Begovic), a central defender (to cover for the injury-prone JCS), a right-back (so we're not reliant on Dunne playing out of position), a left-back (as Paal is in the final year of his contract and Lekerche was sent out on loan), at least 2 central midfielders who are genuine number 8s (to replace the aging, injury prone and card happy Colback), and 2 strikers (to replace the out-going Dykes and Armstrong). With Chair and Anderson already on board, what we certainly didn't need was more attacking midfielders or number 10s.

Of this brief, the recruitment team only satisfied 2 requirements in the shape of Nardi and Morrison. To recruit another DM (Varane), a RM pretending to be a RB (Santos), 3 AM/10s (Madsen, Dembele, and Saito), and 1 forward who doesn't suit the system (Celar) was negligent to say the least. To compound matters, the vast majority of these players had no experience of English football prior to joining.

Irrespective of Marti's abilities, no coach can deliver consistent results with such an imbalanced, inexperienced squad. Indeed, recruitment was so bad that we now find ourselves in a position where we're counting on core players like JCS, Colback and Frey to return asap, hit the ground running, and stay fit and suspension free. Come January, we'll no doubt look to the owners to dip into their pockets again to enable the same recruitment team who failed miserably in the summer to identify and recruit able reinforcements.

That doesn't sound like it's going to plan to me.

P.S. Regarding your imaginary discussion, you can't teach someone who shies away from the physical side of the game, how to tackle. Hence, we have midfielders like Madsen who go through 90+ minutes without completing a single one.
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Beautiful women sports stars
at 01:32 18 Nov 2024

Who are you to judge who is being judgemental? Isn't that judgemental in itself?

I take the attitude that gender isn't a preference, it's what you're born with, and no amount of illogical, unscientific woke ideology will move me from this position. You may choose to make it none of your business but I won't sit idly by whilst my wife and daughters' opportunities and safety are compromised by men who wake up one morning and decide to call themselves a woman.
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Caption Competition
at 21:09 17 Nov 2024





Night fever, night fever.
We know how to do it.
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Friday Choons - Other Sports (n/t)
at 15:25 15 Nov 2024


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Nourry should walk.
at 16:45 13 Nov 2024

Whilst I've been very vocal about the ridiculous decision to hand Nourry the role of CEO in the first place, the fact remains that he's in situ and won't walk. He's been given the role of a lifetime at a very tender age with little to no experience. Ultimately, he's an employee who is there to do a job for the owners. They're the ones who should remove him and hire a replacement with the credentials for the role.
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MC has got to go
at 16:38 13 Nov 2024

"I’m saying that blame for our position seems to be all on Nourry. I don’t think that’s fair."

I agree with that to some extent. Ultimately, the blame for Nourry's appointment lies with the owners. It is yet another poor decision in a very long list.

However, you must place this conversation in the context of this thread which is titled "MC has to go". I would agree with this sentiment if Marti was working with a top class squad but that's not the case. Poor summer recruitment and a lengthy injury list has left Marti with an imbalanced, inexperienced pool of players to choose from. This recruitment is overseen by Nourry and driven by his data approach. Consequently, if anyone should be held accountable, it's Christian and/or the head of recruitment. The owners aren't going to sack themselves.
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MC has got to go
at 16:16 13 Nov 2024

He's not any old director, he's CEO. It doesn't get much higher than that. It's extremely unlikely that anyone will be a CEO of a company in their 20s unless they started the business.
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MC has got to go
at 14:12 13 Nov 2024

When I was 16 I had a part-time job working the tills at Safeway. My badge stated 'Checkout Assistant'. After a few months, management introduced some changes. New decor, new uniform, new badges. I was performing the same role but my new badge stated 'Senior Customer Services Executive'.

You can call a job what you like, especially when you launch a start-up. At best, a managing partner with limited experience at a small start-up like Retexo is akin to Associate level at a huge global consultancy like Deloitte. Moreover, it doesn't provide the transferable skills or experience required to be CEO of a football club.
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MC has got to go
at 13:57 13 Nov 2024

You're the only person mentioning that he's posh. Everyone else is judging purely on his lack of experience and credentials for the role of CEO.
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MC has got to go
at 13:51 13 Nov 2024

"Agree but we can’t use his age as reason to criticise him. Criticise those who appointed him when so young."

Nourry's youth belies a lack of work experience required to command a senior director role. No company worth its salt will hire a young person with little to no experience to be its CEO. QPR should be no different and it's an absolute travesty that the owners have put Nourry in post.

"I do believe if he was older and sounded less posh, whether people wouldn’t be so critical of him after 12 months in the job."

If he was older, he'd be more experienced. If that experience were relevant to the role then the hire would make sense. The fact is, he isn't older and he doesn't have the requisite experience so its a moot point.

Sorry to say but I called this the moment that Nourry was hired because it's simple common sense. The fact that some fans continue to defend this appointment just blows my mind. Little wonder that the owners feel they can get away with making such obviously irrational decisions.
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Ownership of QPR
at 18:27 12 Nov 2024

Because their valuation is too high.

To make the club an attractive proposition Ruben has to first accept that it is numerous owner mistakes that have resulted in the club bleeding money. No one else is to blame for the ridiculous over-spending in the PL and subsequent FFP fine that this attracted. We're still paying for this excess today. Once the owners understand and accept this, lower the valuation to take into account the operating losses any potential buyer would inherit.
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MC has got to go
at 04:00 10 Nov 2024

Whilst I remain unconvinced that any manager could get a tune out of this current squad, Mark Robins is one manager I have a lot of time for. He did a fantastic job at a Coventry team that had fallen through the divisions and didn't even have a home at one point. That said, I suspect he'll have a lot of suitors and won't be keen on joining yet another basket case of a club.
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MC has got to go
at 03:40 7 Nov 2024

It's pretty clear that the poor summer recruitment coupled with a lengthy injury list to key personnel is making it almost impossible to field a decent starting 11 at the moment. A change of manager will make little to no difference as the new incumbent would have to work with the same scraps. All we can hope is that JCS, Colback, Frey, Paal, Dembele and Chair return soon and we can accumulate enough points between now and January to stay within touching distance. Then use the window to make some shrewd loan signings (by ignoring whatever the man child's data suggests and recruiting players with heart, know how and experience).
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Music that makes you cry.
at 22:03 5 Nov 2024

I don't need music to make me cry at the moment. Our performances suffice.
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The Bob Mortimer Match Thread: QPR v Boro
at 21:58 5 Nov 2024

What a thoroughly inept and gutless performance. This team's on life support.
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Fireworks night? Preview
at 21:57 5 Nov 2024

Fireworks? Barely a sparkler in that performance.
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