| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread 11:18 - Jan 19 with 26266 views | Darran |
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| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 15:31 - Jan 19 with 1947 views | union_jack |
| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 15:28 - Jan 19 by quiff |
Are you Perchie in disguise? |
No, but we are both realistic and passionate about our club. |  |
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| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 15:31 - Jan 19 with 1947 views | Lord_Bony |
We know we re not going to get much in January.
It is after that it becomes a bit easier but that period will be make or break.if we don t get the points against Stoke,Cardiff,w.Ham,palace then we re going to end up in the pressure cooker with the rest of them.unfortunatley,we still got Europa and the Fa cup to contend with and the risk of further injuries and fatigue that brings.
I very said many times the end of this season will be tight,tight,tight for the bottom six. |  |
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| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 15:31 - Jan 19 with 1947 views | Dull1Thomas |
| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 15:26 - Jan 19 by union_jack |
Indeed the tell tale signs have been there for a while now.
What worries me is that we lose the ball far too easily and usually by just giving it away. We also run the ball too far.
All this is down to twitchiness resulting from nerves which produces lack of confidence. Self perpetuating.
The next four games are crucial but with confidence as it is I'm not seeing beyond a couple of points.
The passion is not there. There is not one player really putting their body on the line and that attitude comes when they think its meaningless.
Worrying times all round but don't let me influence the head buryers on here. |
Get a grip.
Utter rubbish atmosphere from the Liberty today … players must wonder why they have no support.
Ref was dreadful - how the hell did we not get a penalty? And since when have players been allowed to hand off and hold players by the throat. And does off side no longer exist for teams coming to the Liberty? More comments like that from Moyes please.
Overall - played really well against one of the best teams in the league with a significantly organised team. Could easily have drawn because we were not outplayed in any way. |  |
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| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 15:34 - Jan 19 with 1896 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 15:31 - Jan 19 by Dull1Thomas |
Get a grip.
Utter rubbish atmosphere from the Liberty today … players must wonder why they have no support.
Ref was dreadful - how the hell did we not get a penalty? And since when have players been allowed to hand off and hold players by the throat. And does off side no longer exist for teams coming to the Liberty? More comments like that from Moyes please.
Overall - played really well against one of the best teams in the league with a significantly organised team. Could easily have drawn because we were not outplayed in any way. |
I lost count how many times they got beyond our entire 10 outfield players and were quite literally lining up to score. That is being outplayed. Just because we passed the ball around our back 4 for large periods of time which tipped the possession stats in our favour does not mean this was an even game. Far from it. They absolutley tore us apart. |  |
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| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 15:36 - Jan 19 with 1859 views | Molliemick |
Williams and Leon put their bodies on the line every match. Also Shelvey and recently Bony. Not sure about the others currently fit and playing. | | | |
| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 15:37 - Jan 19 with 1838 views | Dull1Thomas |
| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 15:34 - Jan 19 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
I lost count how many times they got beyond our entire 10 outfield players and were quite literally lining up to score. That is being outplayed. Just because we passed the ball around our back 4 for large periods of time which tipped the possession stats in our favour does not mean this was an even game. Far from it. They absolutley tore us apart. |
Twice until the last few minutes when we were going on an all out attack.
But let's all say we're rubbish, let's all get on the players backs, let's all see the negative and ignore the positive.
At the moment it isn't ML, HJ or the players that are relegation material it's our pathetic fan base. | |
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| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 15:38 - Jan 19 with 1824 views | C_jack |
| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 15:31 - Jan 19 by union_jack |
No, but we are both realistic and passionate about our club. |
You're both masochists who manage to extract the maximal negative out of any situation.
Each to their own 'reality' though. |  |
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| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 15:40 - Jan 19 with 1784 views | blaine_scfc |
On the way home now, what did Shelvey go off for? Hopefully just precaution?! It's only him and Bony who will get close to scoring. |  | | |
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| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 15:40 - Jan 19 with 1770 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 15:37 - Jan 19 by Dull1Thomas |
Twice until the last few minutes when we were going on an all out attack.
But let's all say we're rubbish, let's all get on the players backs, let's all see the negative and ignore the positive.
At the moment it isn't ML, HJ or the players that are relegation material it's our pathetic fan base. |
You mean the fanbase which still sells out the Liberty for every game, despite us playing so badly lately and winning so very few games at home? You mean the fanbase that doesn't boo the team off, when most other clubs in the league would be boo'd off at halftime and fulltime in the form we are in. What you are saying is that it is a group of people posting negative posts on an internet forum that is what makes our club relegation material, and not the players and coaches who are out on the pitch? Okay. | |
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| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 15:42 - Jan 19 with 1754 views | union_jack |
| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 15:31 - Jan 19 by Dull1Thomas |
Get a grip.
Utter rubbish atmosphere from the Liberty today … players must wonder why they have no support.
Ref was dreadful - how the hell did we not get a penalty? And since when have players been allowed to hand off and hold players by the throat. And does off side no longer exist for teams coming to the Liberty? More comments like that from Moyes please.
Overall - played really well against one of the best teams in the league with a significantly organised team. Could easily have drawn because we were not outplayed in any way. |
Agree with some of that except I feel I have a very good grip of reality.
Definite penalty but this us The Liberty you know?
Didn't see any offsides of note.
Didn't play that well IMO. But whether we did or didn't, Spurs were better and once they got the first goal the belief drained from us ( and the crowd by the sound of it).
We needed something from this game not just for the obvious reasons but to show we have some fight and spirit in us to take on to the 'easier' games facing us next. I'm not sure we will do that but strangely fancy ourselves in the away games rather than at home. Well, not that strange really. | |
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| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 15:43 - Jan 19 with 1736 views | 2face |
I just checked Southhamptons latest games against Tottenham, City , MC, Chelsea, Villa and Everton. Since everybody seems to heep praise on Southhampton and their manager.
Out of those fixtures they won 0 games and got 2 points out of it. | | | |
| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 15:44 - Jan 19 with 1729 views | union_jack |
| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 15:37 - Jan 19 by Dull1Thomas |
Twice until the last few minutes when we were going on an all out attack.
But let's all say we're rubbish, let's all get on the players backs, let's all see the negative and ignore the positive.
At the moment it isn't ML, HJ or the players that are relegation material it's our pathetic fan base. |
Yes, but we were 3-1 down and Spurs sat back. That's what happens in sport. | |
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| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 15:48 - Jan 19 with 1691 views | union_jack |
| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 15:43 - Jan 19 by 2face |
I just checked Southhamptons latest games against Tottenham, City , MC, Chelsea, Villa and Everton. Since everybody seems to heep praise on Southhampton and their manager.
Out of those fixtures they won 0 games and got 2 points out of it. |
But how many points have they got from the same number if games?
We needed to get something, a point here or there from this difficult period and we did not.
Pressure now on! | |
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| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 15:49 - Jan 19 with 1675 views | Dull1Thomas |
The point I was making was that we weren't over run and Spurs only got in behind on a regular basis very late on and when we were chasing the game. It was in reply to a suggestion that Spurs ran us ragged - they didn't. | |
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| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 15:52 - Jan 19 with 1640 views | Phaedrus |
The stats suggest we werent that bad. Stats often lie though. While we have a defence playing like that its going to be an uphill struggle. It doesn't help when your captain and leader is wandering around the pitch with the body language of Kevin the teenager. |  |
| And what is good Phaedrus, and what is not good. Need we ask anyone to tell us these things? |
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| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 15:53 - Jan 19 with 1630 views | WarwickHunt |
| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 15:15 - Jan 19 by magicdaps10 |
Davies has been torn a new rectum today! |
Correct. Did a few good things but overall another poor game. Four on the trot?
Rangel was sh1te again as well.
Anyone blaming Chico needs to have another look at the goals... |  | | |
| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 15:59 - Jan 19 with 1572 views | Swanfan1 |
| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 15:53 - Jan 19 by WarwickHunt |
Correct. Did a few good things but overall another poor game. Four on the trot?
Rangel was sh1te again as well.
Anyone blaming Chico needs to have another look at the goals... |
dear me did u see Roland Lamah ?
for the 2nd goal ?, decides for one reason or another not to follow the winger. |  |
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| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 16:00 - Jan 19 with 1565 views | Drizzy |
| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 15:53 - Jan 19 by WarwickHunt |
Correct. Did a few good things but overall another poor game. Four on the trot?
Rangel was sh1te again as well.
Anyone blaming Chico needs to have another look at the goals... |
The one he scored or the one he lost his marker on? |  |
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| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 16:02 - Jan 19 with 1542 views | 2face |
| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 15:43 - Jan 19 by 2face |
I just checked Southhamptons latest games against Tottenham, City , MC, Chelsea, Villa and Everton. Since everybody seems to heep praise on Southhampton and their manager.
Out of those fixtures they won 0 games and got 2 points out of it. |
And in the same fixtures
Hull won 0 games and got 1 point.
Norwich won 0 games and got 1 point. | | | |
| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 16:03 - Jan 19 with 1527 views | WarwickHunt |
| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 15:59 - Jan 19 by Swanfan1 |
dear me did u see Roland Lamah ?
for the 2nd goal ?, decides for one reason or another not to follow the winger. |
Lamah? Where the f*ck was the full back? | | | |
| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 16:07 - Jan 19 with 1489 views | WarwickHunt |
| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 16:00 - Jan 19 by Drizzy |
The one he scored or the one he lost his marker on? |
Do you mean the one where Davies let the cross come in and the Adebayor got in front of Rangel?
Or perhaps the other cross ( I sense a pattern developing here...) that Tremmel should have held? | | | |
| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 16:11 - Jan 19 with 1451 views | Dr_Winston |
| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 16:07 - Jan 19 by WarwickHunt |
Do you mean the one where Davies let the cross come in and the Adebayor got in front of Rangel?
Or perhaps the other cross ( I sense a pattern developing here...) that Tremmel should have held? |
Easier to blame Chico init. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 16:12 - Jan 19 with 1445 views | Drizzy |
| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 16:07 - Jan 19 by WarwickHunt |
Do you mean the one where Davies let the cross come in and the Adebayor got in front of Rangel?
Or perhaps the other cross ( I sense a pattern developing here...) that Tremmel should have held? |
There were two players in between Chico and Rangel. Adebayor started his run in sight of Chico but he was ball watching.
The own goal was unfortunate but Chico was just the cherry on top of a woeful defensive phase of play involving Lamah, Davies and Ash. | |
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| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 16:15 - Jan 19 with 1419 views | Dibaba |
| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 15:25 - Jan 19 by waynekerr55 |
Our squad is bigger than it's ever been, and the research by UEFA/FIFA's medical team states that the bulk of minor muscle injuries are caused by fatigue. Not my words but the words of Prof Jan Ekstrand
Therefore why on earth did the club take the decision to flog the players to death in pre season? Would Mo Farah run until he was sick 2 weeks into an 11 month training programme? Does Floyd Mayweather do irrelevant runs?
Don't mean to sound like a cock but football has lots to learn from other sports |
Your analogies would work better if they had a closer relation to facts. Preseason was not two weeks into the periodisation schedule. Each player was given directions on building base during the off season, which means that by the time they were doing those 6 X 1 km runs, they were probably at least 4 to 6 weeks into the periodisation cycle. I don't know why you keep harping on about this. Nearly all the top clubs are doing interval training now.
As for your comment that non-specific training makes people more prone to injuries, it doesn't have any basis in facts either. General conditioning prior to specific conditioning is the only proper way to build up one's conditioning.
If you are claiming that exhaustion is the cause of the injuries, you might be right. But usually it is the exertions during the past month or so that have a greater effect on injuries than those that occurred several months before. As for Shelvey, he was a squad player for most of the last season, so naturally, he would be more susceptible to injury than the other players, especially the kind of exhaustion-related ones that you are describing.
A far bigger risk of injury is present when players are making drastic changes to their training either in intensity, workload, or the muscle groups stressed. The workload factor of course has been fairly demanding due to the Europa League commitments.
But obviously, if you are the conditioning coach trying to prepare a team for an incredibly high workload, then you have to make sure that the players are training fairly hard in the offseason and preseason, otherwise the when the heavy workload is introduced, the players will be more susceptible to injury due to the fact that it will be more of a shock to the system. As long as the workload and intensity are increased gradually enough, one can avoid a great risk of injuries.
Of course, in game situations and practice there are always dozens of other factors such as pitch conditions, weather, physicality and style of play of the opponents, that can present risks for injury.
So all in all Wayne, I don't subscribe to your charge that doing some 1000 meter intervals has caused injuries.
As for your reference to Mo Farah's training, I can tell you that he is probably doing at least double or triple that distance at far greater intensity after he builds up some base. Of course the base building period is far longer for a runner than for a footballer; but the same general rules apply. But even when runners do nearly everything right, there is a fairly high percentage that miss out on important competitions due to injury, even in a non-contact sport; and even when they are not exposed to all the other factors that might make a footballer injured.
I don't think there is a problem with the conditioning program so much as there might be a problem with the lack of bodies at the moment. [Post edited 19 Jan 2014 16:18]
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| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 16:20 - Jan 19 with 1386 views | Drizzy |
| The official Swansea City V Spurs matchday thread on 16:11 - Jan 19 by Dr_Winston |
Easier to blame Chico init. |
Well yeah it is easier when he's making mistakes. [Post edited 19 Jan 2014 16:20]
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