And so it begins 21:58 - Jun 25 with 9174 views | rrrspricey | Scally w@nkfest alert, turn off your tv immediately |  | | |  |
And so it begins on 10:03 - Jun 26 with 1707 views | Konk |
And so it begins on 07:36 - Jun 26 by paulparker | Go to the beach and your a idiot Go and celebrate at Anfield and it’s a moment of history Our media are C0cks |
Obviously people should be social-distancing, but I don't think you can really compare the two. Liverpool won the title for the first time in 30 years. One of the World's biggest clubs, in a football-mad city, and a lot of the people out last night won't have seen their team win the league before. If QPR had won the league last night and you lived close to Loftus Road, would you not have been a bit tempted to go out and celebrate? Bournemouth beach - hundreds of thousands of people decide to pack a beach out because the sun's shining and they're fu cking idiots. |  |
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And so it begins on 10:03 - Jun 26 with 1687 views | 2Thomas2Bowles | The worrying thing is how good the scum looked last night |  |
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And so it begins on 10:10 - Jun 26 with 1688 views | NorthantsHoop | The Liverpool bore fest and love in will continue, the Premier title race is another bore fest, at least Leicester City in 2016 broke into the elite and made it interesting. The relegation battle and the scramble to remain in the Prem is the exciting element. |  | |  |
And so it begins on 10:20 - Jun 26 with 1644 views | paulparker |
And so it begins on 09:31 - Jun 26 by CamberleyR | For once, I'm in agreement with Steve. Post-Hillsborough, the Heysel disaster does tend to try and get swept under the carpet in this country as if it never happened. |
+1 The QPR teams of 88, 92,93 never got into Europe because of that lot neither did similar clubs like Luton , West Ham, Norwich, Coventry they also stopped that Everton team of 85 from competing In the European a cup Fair play to the team they deserve it but forgive and forgot , no chance |  |
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And so it begins on 10:21 - Jun 26 with 1651 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
And so it begins on 10:10 - Jun 26 by NorthantsHoop | The Liverpool bore fest and love in will continue, the Premier title race is another bore fest, at least Leicester City in 2016 broke into the elite and made it interesting. The relegation battle and the scramble to remain in the Prem is the exciting element. |
I don't think that is fair. 5 different winners in 10 years is pretty good. Consider Germany or Scotland! |  | |  |
And so it begins on 10:27 - Jun 26 with 1628 views | Konk | Not really surprising to see the media all over Liverpool this morning. One of the biggest clubs in the world winning the title after a 30 year wait is quite a big story. I love Liverpool as a city and know a couple of really sound Scouse Liverpool fans, so I'm happy for them. I know they've had loads of other trophies in the past 30 years, but this is the one they all wanted. I hated Liverpool when I was a kid, but it's been a long time since they dominated the game and I can't say the armchair fans bother me these days - they will never know what it's really like to support a club. As for Heysel - not sure Liverpool fans were doing anything that different on that day to fans of lots of other English clubs or the national side at the time - just an absolute tragedy that such cu ntish behaviour combined with a dilapidated stadium led to the deaths of so many Juve fans. English fans rioting on the continent was hardly unusual in the 70's-80's. Hooliganism was called "The English disease" for a reason. I'm sure Liverpool fans aren't grumbling, but I think it's a weirdly anti-climatic title win. Miles clear all through meaning it was in the bag with half a season still to play, then a 3 month break with the lockdown, and then winning it on a night when they weren't even playing. And when the pubs were shut. |  |
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And so it begins on 10:28 - Jun 26 with 1625 views | Hunterhoop |
And so it begins on 10:03 - Jun 26 by Konk | Obviously people should be social-distancing, but I don't think you can really compare the two. Liverpool won the title for the first time in 30 years. One of the World's biggest clubs, in a football-mad city, and a lot of the people out last night won't have seen their team win the league before. If QPR had won the league last night and you lived close to Loftus Road, would you not have been a bit tempted to go out and celebrate? Bournemouth beach - hundreds of thousands of people decide to pack a beach out because the sun's shining and they're fu cking idiots. |
Well put, Konk. It’s not surprising. I strongly doubt i’d have been able to restrain myself and social distance if QPR had the league. Putting all bitterness to one side, this Liverpool side are good to watch. They play some great football and they play how fans, all fans, want their team to play: an energetic high press, dynamic attacking, width, a willingness to go long now and again not just pass it to death. Fair play to them. Klopp is clearly an excellent manager and he comes across as a good bloke. Come to think of it, more than most sides the Liverpool squad seems full of decent characters. Alexander-Armstrong and Robertson seem good lads, Henderson, VVD, Milner all seem normal. Salah and Mane with their charity work. They’re not a team to despise. I get some of a certain demographic resent Liverpool fans for their success and arrogance in the 70s and 80s. But it’s been 30 years. Unlike with many Utd fans, they’ve kept with the team. Of all the towns in the UK, I still think Liverpool is the most football mad, with the closest bond between team and citizens. Having been to Liverpool a lot through my life, it is different to Manchester. There the city is split blue and red, arguably more blue within the city. In Liverpool, that just isn’t the case. It is heavily red. And both teams play near some of the poorest areas in the city; it’s not like one is working class and the other not. Both clubs are still in touch with the heart of the city. And football kept that city going during some dark days in the 80s and 90s. Liverpool now is a huge improvement on those years. It’s a great city in the UK with a good vibe beginning to rival Manchester’s. I don’t begrudge them this. I’d rather Liverpool won the City or Chelsea’s billions, or Utd’s Corporate monster...(no point taking about Arsenal or Spurs). If Leicester can establish themselves as a regular in the top 4 and win it again, that would be astonishing and a bigger achievement than winning it the first time. FWIW, I think City will strengthen further and win it next year. |  | |  |
And so it begins on 10:40 - Jun 26 with 1578 views | traininvain |
And so it begins on 09:31 - Jun 26 by CamberleyR | For once, I'm in agreement with Steve. Post-Hillsborough, the Heysel disaster does tend to try and get swept under the carpet in this country as if it never happened. |
Do you honestly think it’s realistic to expect the media to focus on Heysel the day after Liverpool win the league for the first time in 30 years?! Not saying it wasn’t a tragedy and ultimately Liverpool fans were responsible but it seems a bit of an odd bone of contention with the media given that it happened 30+ years ago. |  | |  | Login to get fewer ads
And so it begins on 10:44 - Jun 26 with 1559 views | kingsburyR | Hi All, Been a while since I posted but yesterdays proceedings make it worthy. I would have rather watched Chelsea win the league than that shower. (and I don't say that lightly) I've now had to blanket ban myself from any sports media until the wan&fest dies down. Should be good sometime on 2021. Roll on The Open (oh wait a minute) Wimbledon (oh shite) anything other than the shite Prem! |  |
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And so it begins on 10:46 - Jun 26 with 1555 views | Esox_Lucius |
And so it begins on 10:40 - Jun 26 by traininvain | Do you honestly think it’s realistic to expect the media to focus on Heysel the day after Liverpool win the league for the first time in 30 years?! Not saying it wasn’t a tragedy and ultimately Liverpool fans were responsible but it seems a bit of an odd bone of contention with the media given that it happened 30+ years ago. |
You still have patridiots banging on that we would all be speaking German if it wasn't for some people 75 years ago. |  |
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And so it begins on 10:50 - Jun 26 with 1538 views | Phildo |
And so it begins on 10:27 - Jun 26 by Konk | Not really surprising to see the media all over Liverpool this morning. One of the biggest clubs in the world winning the title after a 30 year wait is quite a big story. I love Liverpool as a city and know a couple of really sound Scouse Liverpool fans, so I'm happy for them. I know they've had loads of other trophies in the past 30 years, but this is the one they all wanted. I hated Liverpool when I was a kid, but it's been a long time since they dominated the game and I can't say the armchair fans bother me these days - they will never know what it's really like to support a club. As for Heysel - not sure Liverpool fans were doing anything that different on that day to fans of lots of other English clubs or the national side at the time - just an absolute tragedy that such cu ntish behaviour combined with a dilapidated stadium led to the deaths of so many Juve fans. English fans rioting on the continent was hardly unusual in the 70's-80's. Hooliganism was called "The English disease" for a reason. I'm sure Liverpool fans aren't grumbling, but I think it's a weirdly anti-climatic title win. Miles clear all through meaning it was in the bag with half a season still to play, then a 3 month break with the lockdown, and then winning it on a night when they weren't even playing. And when the pubs were shut. |
This is a good and reasonable post (as usual) - but i f'in hate that shower. |  | |  |
And so it begins on 10:56 - Jun 26 with 1521 views | stowmarketrange | I don’t really begrudge proper Scouse Liverpool fans their moment of glory,but when it comes to their millions of bwj,they can feck off. We all know the w@nkers that know all the words to the songs but have never ever been there.Thats the ones that you’ll be hearing most from for the next few months. |  | |  |
And so it begins on 11:12 - Jun 26 with 1483 views | joe90 | Liverpool are just another global wealthy club. It's no different if Utd, Chelsea or City had won the league. Okay, 30 years since they won the league in which time, they've been runners up and won the Champions League a few times as well as other European and domestic cups. It's a complete media fabrication that plays on sentimentality and has created an aura of exceptionalism around Liverpool. It's a load of tosh! |  | |  |
And so it begins on 11:18 - Jun 26 with 1465 views | Konk |
And so it begins on 10:56 - Jun 26 by stowmarketrange | I don’t really begrudge proper Scouse Liverpool fans their moment of glory,but when it comes to their millions of bwj,they can feck off. We all know the w@nkers that know all the words to the songs but have never ever been there.Thats the ones that you’ll be hearing most from for the next few months. |
They honestly don't bother me. They might as well support Barcelona. I never bother chatting football with them, don't take them seriously and on a scale of 1-10, they'll be feeling about a 4, whereas when you've been a regular for years and it's either your local team or your family team, getting promoted from the 4th division can bring you to tears. They'll never know what we feel either the good or the bad. |  |
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And so it begins on 11:44 - Jun 26 with 1408 views | Hunterhoop |
And so it begins on 11:12 - Jun 26 by joe90 | Liverpool are just another global wealthy club. It's no different if Utd, Chelsea or City had won the league. Okay, 30 years since they won the league in which time, they've been runners up and won the Champions League a few times as well as other European and domestic cups. It's a complete media fabrication that plays on sentimentality and has created an aura of exceptionalism around Liverpool. It's a load of tosh! |
It’s really not for those Liverpool fans who are from Liverpool and for whom Liverpool has been in their families for generations. I know quite a few. Of course they have a global fan base like all big teams. Even we have large groups of fans in Norway, Sweden, etc. Do they not care? I get that to a lot of the global fans it won’t mean as much as it does to those true Liverpudlians who have lived with the club in their families for decades, but i’m Sure it still matters. My point is there are more true local fans of Liverpool than Chelsea fans or United fans or City fans. Liverpool’s heritage, like it or not, is richer and longer and stronger than those, possibly with the exception of United. It’s also more ingrained in the city’s identity than any other club/city in the country. Chelsea we’re getting 10-15k in the early 90s. City have been a “big side” only relatively recently and with huge investment. Liverpool have not spent the money United have in the last 20 years, certainly not net. The sentimentality isn’t tosh. If you went to Liverpool and spent time there, you’d realise that. |  | |  |
And so it begins on 11:51 - Jun 26 with 1391 views | ted_hendrix |
And so it begins on 10:03 - Jun 26 by Konk | Obviously people should be social-distancing, but I don't think you can really compare the two. Liverpool won the title for the first time in 30 years. One of the World's biggest clubs, in a football-mad city, and a lot of the people out last night won't have seen their team win the league before. If QPR had won the league last night and you lived close to Loftus Road, would you not have been a bit tempted to go out and celebrate? Bournemouth beach - hundreds of thousands of people decide to pack a beach out because the sun's shining and they're fu cking idiots. |
"If QPR had won the league last night and you lived close to Loftus Road, would you not have been a bit tempted to go out and celebrate?" No I wouldn't, my current concern is the dreadful amount of deaths in this Country due to Covid-19, I feel aggrieved when I read about all the poor bastards whom we've dragged out of retirement to work In the NHS but who have sadly passed away trying to help others. I/We all have a responsibility to follow the guidelines set out by the Government, (i'll do my bit in the vain hope that others do too). People in this Country seem to be losing site of the fact that we're still in serious trouble, we've got a tragedy on our hands that hasn't gone away, infection rates and daily deaths are now just thrown at the public in a 'matter of fact' way as if its the norm. I briefly lived in Liverpool as a nipper, my two best mates in the army were Scousers absolutely sound lads. Celebrations can wait (IMO) No way I would have driven to LR last night. |  |
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And so it begins on 12:01 - Jun 26 with 1369 views | Konk |
And so it begins on 11:51 - Jun 26 by ted_hendrix | "If QPR had won the league last night and you lived close to Loftus Road, would you not have been a bit tempted to go out and celebrate?" No I wouldn't, my current concern is the dreadful amount of deaths in this Country due to Covid-19, I feel aggrieved when I read about all the poor bastards whom we've dragged out of retirement to work In the NHS but who have sadly passed away trying to help others. I/We all have a responsibility to follow the guidelines set out by the Government, (i'll do my bit in the vain hope that others do too). People in this Country seem to be losing site of the fact that we're still in serious trouble, we've got a tragedy on our hands that hasn't gone away, infection rates and daily deaths are now just thrown at the public in a 'matter of fact' way as if its the norm. I briefly lived in Liverpool as a nipper, my two best mates in the army were Scousers absolutely sound lads. Celebrations can wait (IMO) No way I would have driven to LR last night. |
I'm in my mid 40's, I live 100+ miles from the Cottage, I don't drive and we're not going to win the league, so it's easy for me to say I wouldn't be out in the street. We've been very cautious during lockdown, avoided the busier parts of town, I've had my son playing football over the park at 07:30 in the morning on a Saturday etc, so I wish people weren't out in big crowds, but I can't say with 100% certainty that I wouldn't be doing the same if I was 20, we'd won the league, I'd had a few beers and me and all my mates lived round the corner from the ground. Just being honest. |  |
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And so it begins on 12:13 - Jun 26 with 1346 views | eastside_r | Going to senior school in the 1980’s Liverpool were the only team for the GHWs. ManU were just another (big) team living off their past. When Ferguson got ManU competing early 90’s I ventured that it would not be that bad a thing, at least it would stop them going on about how many years since their last title. One of our number, a few years older than me; although a ST holder living in the Bush, was actually an Everton supporter. He was usually undemonstrative but he turned on me and said I was talking rubbish. He said ManU fans were the worst bunch of GHWs and them winning anything would be completely insufferable, he knew them of old. He was completely right and me wrong. That ManU’s dominance coincided with the introduction of the Premier League and Sky’s hyperbollox made this worse, is probably the case. Will this with Liverpool be as bad? I doubt it because I don’t think they will dominate like United in the 90s or themselves in the 80s. Also think how the ManU vvankers are feeling today, that should make you smile. I am generally a bit MEH about this myself. I suspect this will be a generational thing but we’ve never forgiven Liverpool for 1976, right? Even those of us who do not remember it? |  | |  |
And so it begins on 12:14 - Jun 26 with 1337 views | bosh67 | Pleased for my friends in Liverpool and for Klopp. His style of football is really great. If we can ever get our defence working we could eventually be a bonsai version under Warburton. |  |
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And so it begins on 12:21 - Jun 26 with 1316 views | BrianMcCarthy |
And so it begins on 12:14 - Jun 26 by bosh67 | Pleased for my friends in Liverpool and for Klopp. His style of football is really great. If we can ever get our defence working we could eventually be a bonsai version under Warburton. |
I much prefer Guardiola's style. I find Liverpool to be too direct and bish-bash-bosh*. *This is a uber-technical coaching term. You should all feel free to use it in company at the top of your voices. |  |
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And so it begins on 12:31 - Jun 26 with 1302 views | joe90 |
And so it begins on 11:44 - Jun 26 by Hunterhoop | It’s really not for those Liverpool fans who are from Liverpool and for whom Liverpool has been in their families for generations. I know quite a few. Of course they have a global fan base like all big teams. Even we have large groups of fans in Norway, Sweden, etc. Do they not care? I get that to a lot of the global fans it won’t mean as much as it does to those true Liverpudlians who have lived with the club in their families for decades, but i’m Sure it still matters. My point is there are more true local fans of Liverpool than Chelsea fans or United fans or City fans. Liverpool’s heritage, like it or not, is richer and longer and stronger than those, possibly with the exception of United. It’s also more ingrained in the city’s identity than any other club/city in the country. Chelsea we’re getting 10-15k in the early 90s. City have been a “big side” only relatively recently and with huge investment. Liverpool have not spent the money United have in the last 20 years, certainly not net. The sentimentality isn’t tosh. If you went to Liverpool and spent time there, you’d realise that. |
Of course there are 'real' fans, all clubs have them. I don't think just because there more of them it makes their story any more compelling. The media isn't fabricating the fact there are Liverpool fans, it's fabricating a story about them, as though there is something exceptional which there isn't! |  | |  |
And so it begins on 12:36 - Jun 26 with 1290 views | BrianMcCarthy |
And so it begins on 12:13 - Jun 26 by eastside_r | Going to senior school in the 1980’s Liverpool were the only team for the GHWs. ManU were just another (big) team living off their past. When Ferguson got ManU competing early 90’s I ventured that it would not be that bad a thing, at least it would stop them going on about how many years since their last title. One of our number, a few years older than me; although a ST holder living in the Bush, was actually an Everton supporter. He was usually undemonstrative but he turned on me and said I was talking rubbish. He said ManU fans were the worst bunch of GHWs and them winning anything would be completely insufferable, he knew them of old. He was completely right and me wrong. That ManU’s dominance coincided with the introduction of the Premier League and Sky’s hyperbollox made this worse, is probably the case. Will this with Liverpool be as bad? I doubt it because I don’t think they will dominate like United in the 90s or themselves in the 80s. Also think how the ManU vvankers are feeling today, that should make you smile. I am generally a bit MEH about this myself. I suspect this will be a generational thing but we’ve never forgiven Liverpool for 1976, right? Even those of us who do not remember it? |
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And so it begins on 12:39 - Jun 26 with 1285 views | CamberleyR |
And so it begins on 12:36 - Jun 26 by BrianMcCarthy | Sorry...GHW's? |
Glory Hunting Wánkers I should think. |  |
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And so it begins on 12:48 - Jun 26 with 1263 views | BrianMcCarthy |
And so it begins on 12:39 - Jun 26 by CamberleyR | Glory Hunting Wánkers I should think. |
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And so it begins on 12:59 - Jun 26 with 1241 views | MrSheen |
And so it begins on 12:39 - Jun 26 by CamberleyR | Glory Hunting Wánkers I should think. |
Also the spiritual home of FKWs. |  | |  |
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