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With money being tight as per usual I am hoping we can get a decent run in the cups this year.......traditionally we usually do ok in at least one!
It would be an ideal opportunity to put last Saturdays shocker to bed and get on track as soon as possible. Start by leaving McNulty a day off. Then hopefully if Bonsey is fit his replacement alone will give us the edge.
I don't think Robbie will be doing this "free hit" jobby.
Get stuck in.
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Let's get some redemption tomorrow! on 20:29 - Aug 9 with 2169 views
Let's get some redemption tomorrow! on 20:23 - Aug 9 by nordenblue
Or just weighing up the risks faced if you actually require a needless vaccine for some, like most the nation choose not to bother with a flu jab annually, because they don't need it, its a choice based on your specific circumstances, or at least it should be.....
Has it been identified who it’s a “needless vaccine” for?
If it’s been established that it could help prevent serious illness and the effects of long covid, would the Newcastle players who suffered the impact of the latter have possibly returned to action quicker had a vaccine been available last year?
And yes, totally agree it should be an individual’s own choice. But this is in the context of the discussion around how it could benefit football players, not about the outside world. If it is ‘needless’ for players, surely that would have come out by now?
Let's get some redemption tomorrow! on 20:15 - Aug 9 by nordenblue
Nowt to do with you if I have or haven't really, very similar to me knowing about your medical preferences.
It's brilliant how anyone who's had a jab is viewed like some life saver yet others who choose not to are viewed as "wrong". They've done a belting job the good old media of ours, scaring everyone shitless
I've had both jabs and at no point has anyone I'm close to (or associated with) viewed me as some sort of "life saver", so I'm struggling a bit with your post.
In fact, come to think of it, I don't know of anyone who's been double-jabbed being viewed as a life-saver.
When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?
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Let's get some redemption tomorrow! on 20:40 - Aug 9 with 2124 views
Let's get some redemption tomorrow! on 20:29 - Aug 9 by 442Dale
Has it been identified who it’s a “needless vaccine” for?
If it’s been established that it could help prevent serious illness and the effects of long covid, would the Newcastle players who suffered the impact of the latter have possibly returned to action quicker had a vaccine been available last year?
And yes, totally agree it should be an individual’s own choice. But this is in the context of the discussion around how it could benefit football players, not about the outside world. If it is ‘needless’ for players, surely that would have come out by now?
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It's needless for the tens of thousands who have had covid with absolutely zero symptoms and required a test to know they've even had it such was the ferocity, or even the tens of thousands who have had it and felt a bit rough for a few days, very similar to a common cold.
The reality is most folk don't get a choice if it's needed or not, such is the hysteria thats been whipped up that surrounds anyone that opts not to have a vaccine.
Again if its about purely about reducing any risks of possible needless time out of football the flu vaccine must be administered to every single footballer and back room staff annually, we both know that's not the case 442
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Let's get some redemption tomorrow! on 20:48 - Aug 9 with 2102 views
Let's get some redemption tomorrow! on 20:40 - Aug 9 by nordenblue
It's needless for the tens of thousands who have had covid with absolutely zero symptoms and required a test to know they've even had it such was the ferocity, or even the tens of thousands who have had it and felt a bit rough for a few days, very similar to a common cold.
The reality is most folk don't get a choice if it's needed or not, such is the hysteria thats been whipped up that surrounds anyone that opts not to have a vaccine.
Again if its about purely about reducing any risks of possible needless time out of football the flu vaccine must be administered to every single footballer and back room staff annually, we both know that's not the case 442
How many players who suffered from flu were like Saint-Maximin and 'not been able to do anything for six weeks'?
If there’s info available on that and whether or not some clubs do suggest players take precautions to avoid flu, it’d be interesting to read.
Actually, it’s not about comparing with flu vaccines. I’m missing my own point made previously, it’s about utilising ANY suggested health related precautions that may help eg diet etc. Apologies for going off track.
Let's get some redemption tomorrow! on 20:37 - Aug 9 by TVOS1907
I've had both jabs and at no point has anyone I'm close to (or associated with) viewed me as some sort of "life saver", so I'm struggling a bit with your post.
In fact, come to think of it, I don't know of anyone who's been double-jabbed being viewed as a life-saver.
Its all over the media TVOS, its embarrassingly slanted and massively contradictory, like the belter of a "covid passport" to travel.
So you can now "safely" sit next to everyone else on a plane having been vaccinated yet can still both pass and catch the virus to every single person sat on the plane, the exact same scenario whether you have/not been vaccinated....absolutely brilliant idea.
The key to getting out of all this nonsense is the testing, yet we all know that's about as accurate as a Michael Simpkins through ball.
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Let's get some redemption tomorrow! on 20:52 - Aug 9 with 2084 views
If there’s info available on that and whether or not some clubs do suggest players take precautions to avoid flu, it’d be interesting to read.
Actually, it’s not about comparing with flu vaccines. I’m missing my own point made previously, it’s about utilising ANY suggested health related precautions that may help eg diet etc. Apologies for going off track.
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Compare it to the percentage of players that have caught it and we'll discuss it in more detail, you keep bringing up literally one case out of how many footballers is there professionally.... many many of them have caught it too along the way.
Edit.... no need to apologise
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Let's get some redemption tomorrow! on 20:53 - Aug 9 with 2076 views
Let's get some redemption tomorrow! on 20:49 - Aug 9 by nordenblue
Its all over the media TVOS, its embarrassingly slanted and massively contradictory, like the belter of a "covid passport" to travel.
So you can now "safely" sit next to everyone else on a plane having been vaccinated yet can still both pass and catch the virus to every single person sat on the plane, the exact same scenario whether you have/not been vaccinated....absolutely brilliant idea.
The key to getting out of all this nonsense is the testing, yet we all know that's about as accurate as a Michael Simpkins through ball.
I'm sure most people can make up their own minds, regardless of what the media say. I know I can.
When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?
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Let's get some redemption tomorrow! on 21:03 - Aug 9 with 2055 views
Let's get some redemption tomorrow! on 20:52 - Aug 9 by nordenblue
Compare it to the percentage of players that have caught it and we'll discuss it in more detail, you keep bringing up literally one case out of how many footballers is there professionally.... many many of them have caught it too along the way.
Edit.... no need to apologise
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I don’t keep bringing it up, it was because I searched ‘Newcastle long Covid’ as remembered it happening there.
Of course the percentage could be very small of those who contracted it, and that’s the point. If a vaccine reduces the chances of the above cases, those are the margins clubs look at. Just like diets/warm-ups etc etc.
There may be more stories, that was on page one of the search, but going to watch the rest of Only Connect now.
Let's get some redemption tomorrow! on 21:10 - Aug 9 by nordenblue
Good man, me too
of course you can but there are consequences of your choices - one of which may be to curtail some of your freedoms; just as the wearing of seat belts is an infringement of personal freedom, but our community has decided to firmly encourage such behaviour and therefore to penalise those that make a different choice; aren't you open to the very criticism you level against those who've been vaccinated - you appear to be claiming you are one of the few to see the emperor isn't wearing any clothes and that your rights are paramount; but you live in a society (your choice) and therefore whilst you may aspire to certain rights you also have obligations to that society.
Anyone would think, reading some of the posts in this thread, that the link between being infected with Covid, rates of hospitalisation and subsequent mortality haven't been almost completely broken by the vaccine
Of course, some vaccinated people will still end up in hospital, and of course, many unvaccinated people won't; but the sheer weight of numbers is overwhelming in terms of the benefits of vaccination both at individual and societal level
Should footballers be required to accept the Covid jabs? No - we live in a free society (in the broadly accepted definition of the term). Should they have sanctions applied if through their reluctance to be vaccinated (other than for medical reasons) their employer is damaged through postponement with resulting financial loss? Absolutely
Let's get some redemption tomorrow! on 20:49 - Aug 9 by nordenblue
Its all over the media TVOS, its embarrassingly slanted and massively contradictory, like the belter of a "covid passport" to travel.
So you can now "safely" sit next to everyone else on a plane having been vaccinated yet can still both pass and catch the virus to every single person sat on the plane, the exact same scenario whether you have/not been vaccinated....absolutely brilliant idea.
The key to getting out of all this nonsense is the testing, yet we all know that's about as accurate as a Michael Simpkins through ball.
I guess you weren't at York years ago when two wonderful Simpkins assists led to 2 goals in a fantastic Dale away win. During the petrol strike. Think Townson scored.
Let's get some redemption tomorrow! on 22:28 - Aug 9 by R17ALE
I guess you weren't at York years ago when two wonderful Simpkins assists led to 2 goals in a fantastic Dale away win. During the petrol strike. Think Townson scored.
He was shite though!
TVOS will provide details!
It wasn't during the petrol strike. That was a midweek game three years previous.
This is the game in question:
When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?
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Let's get some redemption tomorrow! on 22:34 - Aug 9 with 1807 views
Let's get some redemption tomorrow! on 22:10 - Aug 9 by D_Alien
Anyone would think, reading some of the posts in this thread, that the link between being infected with Covid, rates of hospitalisation and subsequent mortality haven't been almost completely broken by the vaccine
Of course, some vaccinated people will still end up in hospital, and of course, many unvaccinated people won't; but the sheer weight of numbers is overwhelming in terms of the benefits of vaccination both at individual and societal level
Should footballers be required to accept the Covid jabs? No - we live in a free society (in the broadly accepted definition of the term). Should they have sanctions applied if through their reluctance to be vaccinated (other than for medical reasons) their employer is damaged through postponement with resulting financial loss? Absolutely
Absolutely, DA.
Nordenblue, you’ve been treading into tinfoil hat territory at times during this pandemic, but your posts tonight are showing an alarming lack of knowledge, born I suspect from viewing algorithms-calculated social media posts that pander to your preexisting biases.
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Let's get some redemption tomorrow! on 22:56 - Aug 9 with 1726 views
Let's get some redemption tomorrow! on 22:34 - Aug 9 by Shun
Absolutely, DA.
Nordenblue, you’ve been treading into tinfoil hat territory at times during this pandemic, but your posts tonight are showing an alarming lack of knowledge, born I suspect from viewing algorithms-calculated social media posts that pander to your preexisting biases.
Really, or maybe I've just questioned some of the absolute contradictory nonsense while the rest of the folk just lap it all up it seems, while sat at home shaking like a shitting dog frightened to leave their homes.
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Let's get some redemption tomorrow! on 22:59 - Aug 9 with 1717 views
Let's get some redemption tomorrow! on 21:52 - Aug 9 by tony_roch975
of course you can but there are consequences of your choices - one of which may be to curtail some of your freedoms; just as the wearing of seat belts is an infringement of personal freedom, but our community has decided to firmly encourage such behaviour and therefore to penalise those that make a different choice; aren't you open to the very criticism you level against those who've been vaccinated - you appear to be claiming you are one of the few to see the emperor isn't wearing any clothes and that your rights are paramount; but you live in a society (your choice) and therefore whilst you may aspire to certain rights you also have obligations to that society.
Wearing a seat belt is a safety feature, it stops you being thrown from a vehicle should a serious accident occur, not an infringement of personal freedom one bit, im not one of the few to question things.
You're assuming I've not been vaccinated,dont make assumptions. I'm not claiming my rights are paramount, I'm saying EVERYONES should be.
Where do we stop with it all,should primary school children not be vaccinated, what about new borns surely they must need it too, should we ban children from flights then if you need a "vaccine passport"to travel?
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Let's get some redemption tomorrow! on 23:13 - Aug 9 with 1679 views
Let's get some redemption tomorrow! on 22:28 - Aug 9 by R17ALE
I guess you weren't at York years ago when two wonderful Simpkins assists led to 2 goals in a fantastic Dale away win. During the petrol strike. Think Townson scored.
He was shite though!
TVOS will provide details!
Yes I was there both them games, I just think I'm possibly scarred from the other shite I witnessed far too often
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Let's get some redemption tomorrow! on 23:37 - Aug 9 with 1626 views
Let's get some redemption tomorrow! on 22:56 - Aug 9 by nordenblue
Really, or maybe I've just questioned some of the absolute contradictory nonsense while the rest of the folk just lap it all up it seems, while sat at home shaking like a shitting dog frightened to leave their homes.
I think you may be referring to many of those who were at Harrogate, and/or will be at the COA next Saturday
Let's get some redemption tomorrow! on 22:56 - Aug 9 by nordenblue
Really, or maybe I've just questioned some of the absolute contradictory nonsense while the rest of the folk just lap it all up it seems, while sat at home shaking like a shitting dog frightened to leave their homes.
Who’s frightened though? I’ve happily had both my jabs, wore a mask throughout the pandemic, washed my hands often, and I haven’t been frightened at all.
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Let's get some redemption tomorrow! on 06:28 - Aug 10 with 1436 views
TW car crash safety adverts Seat belts don't just protect the wearer!
As you rightly highlight James, seatbelts aren't just needed to "stop YOU from being thrown out of a car"
The rest of us folk are, in the main, capable of making informed decisions about our own safety and that of others. Who, or what, will protect us from the ignorant though?
Let's get some redemption tomorrow! on 19:39 - Aug 9 by nordenblue
Exactly, (not aimed at you 442) but the way everyone's queueing up like lemmings for a jab is absolutely amazing to watch, it's like a badge of honour for some to plaster all over social media, you've even got the beauties having had covid and not been rough at all yet still happy to be double jabbed, they've not looked into how the immune system generally works then.
That badge of honour appears to work both ways, with people keen to plaster their anti-vax views all over social media and football forums.
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Let's get some redemption tomorrow! on 09:58 - Aug 10 with 1218 views
Let's get some redemption tomorrow! on 09:41 - Aug 10 by Zac_B
That badge of honour appears to work both ways, with people keen to plaster their anti-vax views all over social media and football forums.
It's amazing that anyone who questions things is automatically in the "anti vax" camp....I've had plenty of vaccines over the years and even a couple pretty recently too, how does that fit in with your pigeonholing?
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