| Venezuela 22:29 - Jan 3 with 3041 views | MattFinish |
After the Orange türd attacked and took control of Venezuela should the UK and the rest of Europe boycott the World Cup
Will Infantino ask for his Peace prize back 🤔 |  | | |  |
| Venezuela on 10:59 - Jan 4 with 1078 views | kernow |
Oh and Happy New Year. |  | | |
| Venezuela on 11:16 - Jan 4 with 1044 views | City_boy |
Back to Mattfinish's original question and World Cup, I would love to see Europe boycott the World Cup. It would send a message to Infantino and all others on the FIFA gravy train that most people are fed up with the corruption.
The World Cup would be severely weakened without European countries. | | | |
| Venezuela on 11:19 - Jan 4 with 1036 views | saintmark1976 |
| Venezuela on 07:27 - Jan 4 by Jellybaby |
Don't believe the propaganda. All wars are bankers wars. More people will die so they can effect a regime change and do a land grab stealing resources and money. |
Spot on as usual Jelly.
That’s why nowadays those who cause wars never ever fight in them.
As for today’s game. Well done and good luck to all the fans that make the long journey.
I hope that you witness something better than the recent St Mary’s New Years Day bore fess. | |
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| Venezuela on 11:36 - Jan 4 with 1012 views | PatfromPoole |
| Venezuela on 11:16 - Jan 4 by City_boy |
Back to Mattfinish's original question and World Cup, I would love to see Europe boycott the World Cup. It would send a message to Infantino and all others on the FIFA gravy train that most people are fed up with the corruption.
The World Cup would be severely weakened without European countries. |
It seems we are very keen to host the Women’s World Cup in 2035, so the chances of us upsetting FIFA are nil. |  |
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| Venezuela on 11:38 - Jan 4 with 1006 views | Heisenberg |
| Venezuela on 07:47 - Jan 4 by PatfromPoole |
Would Burnham or Streeting really be any better than Starmer? |
Burnham maybe. Streeting definitely not. To be honest it’s like do we play Stephens or Quarshie ? Both aren’t up to it. |  |
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| Venezuela on 15:51 - Jan 4 with 915 views | MattFinish |
| Venezuela on 22:46 - Jan 3 by Southamptonfan |
Without knowing too much detail about this, is it a bad thing to remove the leader of a country where there is hyperinflation, people are starving and suffering? More than 80 per cent (just an number I have seen) of people there live in severe poverty and our government advises that no-one should travel there, as it is highly dangerous. As far as I am aware, there hasn't been any civilian deaths and all that has happened is that Trump has removed a terrible leader who just ensured all his people starve and suffer. |
So it's not the fact that Venezeula has more oil reserves than Saudi Arabia, Russia, UAE, Kuwait and Iraq  | | | |
| Venezuela on 15:58 - Jan 4 with 893 views | cocklebreath |
I struggle to understand anyone who supports Trump. He’s everything a good human being shouldn’t be. |  |
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| Venezuela on 16:06 - Jan 4 with 865 views | Southamptonfan |
| Venezuela on 15:58 - Jan 4 by cocklebreath |
I struggle to understand anyone who supports Trump. He’s everything a good human being shouldn’t be. |
I don't "support" Trump but I do support the ceasefire in Gaza, Venezuelan people celebrating because they hope they may no.longer starve and the attempt to stop.the war in Ukraine.
Who are the good politicians then? [Post edited 4 Jan 16:06]
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| Venezuela on 16:08 - Jan 4 with 862 views | 1885_SFC |
In the meantime, several RAF Typhoon jets bombed Syria overnight with Starmer having recently pledged £160m in aid for the country.
It's a funny old world. |  |
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| Venezuela on 20:30 - Jan 4 with 777 views | Jellybaby |
| Venezuela on 15:58 - Jan 4 by cocklebreath |
I struggle to understand anyone who supports Trump. He’s everything a good human being shouldn’t be. |
Trump is the latest puppet, but US has a very long history of effecting regime change - doesn't matter which party is in "charge", all answer to the oligarchs tune; Libya (2011),
Iraq (2003),Afghanistan (2001), Haiti (2004), Panama (1989), Grenada (1983), Chile (1973), Brazil (1964), South Vietnam (1963), Dominican Republic (1961), Congo (1960): Guatemala (1954), Iran (1953). | |
| I wholly disapprove of what you say and will defend to the death your right to say it. |
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| Venezuela on 20:49 - Jan 4 with 757 views | 1885_SFC |
| Venezuela on 20:30 - Jan 4 by Jellybaby |
Trump is the latest puppet, but US has a very long history of effecting regime change - doesn't matter which party is in "charge", all answer to the oligarchs tune; Libya (2011),
Iraq (2003),Afghanistan (2001), Haiti (2004), Panama (1989), Grenada (1983), Chile (1973), Brazil (1964), South Vietnam (1963), Dominican Republic (1961), Congo (1960): Guatemala (1954), Iran (1953). |
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| Venezuela on 12:59 - Jan 5 with 661 views | franniesTache |
| Venezuela on 16:06 - Jan 4 by Southamptonfan |
I don't "support" Trump but I do support the ceasefire in Gaza, Venezuelan people celebrating because they hope they may no.longer starve and the attempt to stop.the war in Ukraine.
Who are the good politicians then? [Post edited 4 Jan 16:06]
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I've probably got a unique perspective because i actually have family in venezuala and a good friend - from southampton - that lives out there.
The venezualan people aren't celebrating, if you're basing that on videos you've seen on social media those videos are fake.
Most are incredibly cautious about what's happening, maduro (and Chavez) before him were dictators (chavez in all but name) and him being gone is a good thing.
But what's been done is that he's been removed and replaced by his vice president rather that the opposition who legitimately won the election.
Speaking to my family out there they're also incredibly concerned about what america plans to do next, the history of american interventions and replacement of governments in south america is historically disastrous for the people of those countries, and the idea of america running Venezuela could potentially lead to a civil war |  | | |
| Venezuela on 13:39 - Jan 5 with 614 views | SonicBoom |
This is an interesting thought....
When Putin invaded Ukraine, Abramovich was forced to sell Chelsea and was even told that he had to donate the proceeds of the sale to those adversely effected by the war (although that is still being argued over).
So now Trump has invaded Venezuela - or at least, assumed control - , does that mean all US club owners in the PL will also be forced to sell?
If not, why not? |  | | |
| Venezuela on 13:47 - Jan 5 with 605 views | franniesTache |
| Venezuela on 13:39 - Jan 5 by SonicBoom |
This is an interesting thought....
When Putin invaded Ukraine, Abramovich was forced to sell Chelsea and was even told that he had to donate the proceeds of the sale to those adversely effected by the war (although that is still being argued over).
So now Trump has invaded Venezuela - or at least, assumed control - , does that mean all US club owners in the PL will also be forced to sell?
If not, why not? |
Because it's pretty unlikely the UK government are going to place sanctions on America, though i'm sure you know that | | | |
| Venezuela on 14:11 - Jan 5 with 590 views | 1885_SFC |
Venezuela’s new president! Donaldo Juan Trumpchez
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| Venezuela on 15:51 - Jan 5 with 551 views | City_boy |
| Venezuela on 12:59 - Jan 5 by franniesTache |
I've probably got a unique perspective because i actually have family in venezuala and a good friend - from southampton - that lives out there.
The venezualan people aren't celebrating, if you're basing that on videos you've seen on social media those videos are fake.
Most are incredibly cautious about what's happening, maduro (and Chavez) before him were dictators (chavez in all but name) and him being gone is a good thing.
But what's been done is that he's been removed and replaced by his vice president rather that the opposition who legitimately won the election.
Speaking to my family out there they're also incredibly concerned about what america plans to do next, the history of american interventions and replacement of governments in south america is historically disastrous for the people of those countries, and the idea of america running Venezuela could potentially lead to a civil war |
The eight million that left Venezuela under Maduro are probably celebrating, but for those left it is another period of uncertainty.
Whilst the Maduro regime is still in place, I don't believe either of the potential opposition candidates, Machado or Urrutia (Spain) are even in the country ? They probably also wouldn't return at this stage, given the authority that the Military still hold there. Removing the Venezuela' current government is more complex than removing Maduro.
Whilst I accept that the election was stolen from Urrutia, and the US clearly doesn't have a plan for what happens next, I am not convinced now is the time for change and bring Urratia back.
The logical and lawful approach would be to re-instate Urrutia, or hold fresh elections as soon as it is feasible and safe to do so. At the moment it looks like the US only want to deal with the former Deputy - Rodriguez. How long for is anybody guess.
The only that is clear is that Trump and his Cabinet do not have a clue what to do next. [Post edited 5 Jan 16:19]
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| Venezuela on 16:55 - Jan 5 with 511 views | franniesTache |
| Venezuela on 15:51 - Jan 5 by City_boy |
The eight million that left Venezuela under Maduro are probably celebrating, but for those left it is another period of uncertainty.
Whilst the Maduro regime is still in place, I don't believe either of the potential opposition candidates, Machado or Urrutia (Spain) are even in the country ? They probably also wouldn't return at this stage, given the authority that the Military still hold there. Removing the Venezuela' current government is more complex than removing Maduro.
Whilst I accept that the election was stolen from Urrutia, and the US clearly doesn't have a plan for what happens next, I am not convinced now is the time for change and bring Urratia back.
The logical and lawful approach would be to re-instate Urrutia, or hold fresh elections as soon as it is feasible and safe to do so. At the moment it looks like the US only want to deal with the former Deputy - Rodriguez. How long for is anybody guess.
The only that is clear is that Trump and his Cabinet do not have a clue what to do next. [Post edited 5 Jan 16:19]
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Some of my family were those that fled under Chavez and Maduro and they're certainly happy Maduro has gone, but they're hardly celebrating right now as they don't know what comes next and they don't see it as a real change of leadership as the party is still in place.
Sadly it's not really a simple solution, or at least Trump hasn't made it one. Because if the legally elected opposition had been put in place instead it would've been considerably better.
But if the New York Times is to be believed that didn't happen because Trump didn't like that she accepted the Nobel peace prize | | | |
| Venezuela on 17:22 - Jan 5 with 486 views | Southamptonfan |
| Venezuela on 16:55 - Jan 5 by franniesTache |
Some of my family were those that fled under Chavez and Maduro and they're certainly happy Maduro has gone, but they're hardly celebrating right now as they don't know what comes next and they don't see it as a real change of leadership as the party is still in place.
Sadly it's not really a simple solution, or at least Trump hasn't made it one. Because if the legally elected opposition had been put in place instead it would've been considerably better.
But if the New York Times is to be believed that didn't happen because Trump didn't like that she accepted the Nobel peace prize |
The response and plan going forward is the key thing isn't it. Maduro was a nasty dictator, and the vast majority of Venezuelans, many who are starving etc will be happy he has gone. I have seen reputable newspapers reporting celebrations.. If things improve (they couldn't get much worse than starving and no money in general life), then it's a good thing. Trump doesn't follow the rules, but it doesn't always mean it's a bad thing necessarily. We shall see if things improve or get worse for the Venezuelan people. I bet we wish someone would break international law, and kidnap Putin? [Post edited 5 Jan 17:25]
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| Venezuela on 19:16 - Jan 5 with 431 views | kernow |
Trump doesn’t care about the Venezuelan people or whether they’ve been living under a nasty dictator. The only thing that gives him a stiffy is making money through control of strategic resources and geopolitical dominance.
American hegemony, Monroe Doctrine, Manifest Destiny, call it what you will. They’re not done yet.
Who will be next, my money is on the Canal Zone, followed by Greenland .Cuba is an old, irritating humiliation that needs to be put to bed.
They’re not content with sharing a continent, they want a hemisphere. [Post edited 5 Jan 19:21]
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| Venezuela on 11:12 - Jan 8 with 289 views | MattFinish |
So what’s the excuse for when he sends troops into Greenland? 🤔 | | | |
| Venezuela on 11:19 - Jan 8 with 279 views | dirk_doone |
| Venezuela on 11:12 - Jan 8 by MattFinish |
So what’s the excuse for when he sends troops into Greenland? 🤔 |
If he lived long enough, you wonder how far he'd go. He would certainly have more countries in his sights, as would Putin if he could defeat Ukraine.
It's funny how Putin cried it's not fair when drones targetted one of his residences, as would Trump if there was an attack on the White House. [Post edited 8 Jan 11:22]
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| Venezuela on 14:11 - Jan 8 with 200 views | jopreston |
I have read that there is a lot more going on here than meets the eyes. Some reports are saying that Russia have been using Venezuela as a way to avoid the sanctions and such like placed on them. China apparently has been helping them with this. So, it is being said that Trump has also done this (or in the main perhaps) to cut off Putins money flow through Venezuela.
I know everyone hates Trump, and I am certainly no fan. But if this is true, he may have done something very good here in cutting off some billions of dollars going into Russia's war chest.
For the record, I hate literally all politicians as i believe they are all puppets for the ruling elites above them. Not a one of them cares about the average working person. I know for a fact that Farage is not genuinely interested in what is happening on the streets but more so using it as a way to get into power. |  | | |
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