| Spot of bother now........ 17:55 - Feb 4 with 33568 views | kropotkin41 |
16 games left and not a great selection of fixtures, starting next Saturday with Yorkshire's answer to Barcelona.
At first glance I reckon 15 more points............ last season that would have put us in 21st!!
A few more weeks of bad form - even with good play - and things will start to look properly bleak. |  |
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| Spot of bother now........ on 18:30 - Feb 4 with 8322 views | Boston |
Shush, if you say nothing it will just go away. |  |
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| Spot of bother now........ on 18:30 - Feb 4 with 8310 views | Lblock |
In the cold light of a glass of Malbec I am currently hugely concerned
Defeats to Rotherham, Burton and Blackburn "fackin" Rovers erode any confidence displays against Reading, Foolham and Geordies gave.
The lack of goals is a clear issue which I'm not sure Smith or Ravel can answer over a dozen games
The Burton home game could well have been a pivotal moment.
Gutted we didn't win today. To not get anything when level and on top for 90 mins is a scandal
Oh dear |  |
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| Spot of bother now........ on 18:48 - Feb 4 with 8219 views | plasmahoop |
I think we will be OK. With our improvement in performances its suddenly not beyond the realms of possibility to win a tricky looking game. Would have liked a point today though! | | | |
| Spot of bother now........ on 18:53 - Feb 4 with 8186 views | timcocking |
Nah, we've got Ravel. If Ollie plays him, we'll be fine. |  | | |
| Spot of bother now........ on 18:54 - Feb 4 with 8182 views | Boston |
| Spot of bother now........ on 18:48 - Feb 4 by plasmahoop |
I think we will be OK. With our improvement in performances its suddenly not beyond the realms of possibility to win a tricky looking game. Would have liked a point today though! |
I'm with you plasma, we desperately need a constant drip of encouraging posts. | |
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| Spot of bother now........ on 19:01 - Feb 4 with 8144 views | traininvain |
| Spot of bother now........ on 18:30 - Feb 4 by Lblock |
In the cold light of a glass of Malbec I am currently hugely concerned
Defeats to Rotherham, Burton and Blackburn "fackin" Rovers erode any confidence displays against Reading, Foolham and Geordies gave.
The lack of goals is a clear issue which I'm not sure Smith or Ravel can answer over a dozen games
The Burton home game could well have been a pivotal moment.
Gutted we didn't win today. To not get anything when level and on top for 90 mins is a scandal
Oh dear |
It's almost like sacking the manager midway through a season wasn't such a great idea. |  | | |
| Spot of bother now........ on 19:05 - Feb 4 with 8118 views | DeepcutHoop |
| Spot of bother now........ on 18:30 - Feb 4 by Lblock |
In the cold light of a glass of Malbec I am currently hugely concerned
Defeats to Rotherham, Burton and Blackburn "fackin" Rovers erode any confidence displays against Reading, Foolham and Geordies gave.
The lack of goals is a clear issue which I'm not sure Smith or Ravel can answer over a dozen games
The Burton home game could well have been a pivotal moment.
Gutted we didn't win today. To not get anything when level and on top for 90 mins is a scandal
Oh dear |
Scandal?
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| Spot of bother now........ on 19:06 - Feb 4 with 8108 views | DejR_vu |
| Spot of bother now........ on 19:01 - Feb 4 by traininvain |
It's almost like sacking the manager midway through a season wasn't such a great idea. |
We were heading one way with JFH, and it wasn't up | |
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| Spot of bother now........ on 19:14 - Feb 4 with 8060 views | bosh67 |
16 games and I reckon to be safe we need to win 6 of them. That really should be doable with this squad. Hopefully they don't get too down about today because they are playing a lot better. |  |
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| Spot of bother now........ on 19:15 - Feb 4 with 8054 views | traininvain |
| Spot of bother now........ on 19:06 - Feb 4 by DejR_vu |
We were heading one way with JFH, and it wasn't up |
The point is that we had a plan with a manager who'd assembled a squad and had pre-season to work with the players.
The football wasn't great but we were a fairly comfortable mid table side.
Now we have a new manager, a whole host of new signings and not much time for them all to settle..
So we've rolled the dice by changing manager halfway through the season when it wasn't really necessary. Could easily have waited till the summer.
I'm not anti Holloway or pro JFH. Simply pointing out that the owners have made a very risky move and might end up paying a big price.
Still, I'm sure the entertainment would be great in League One. | | | |
| Spot of bother now........ on 19:20 - Feb 4 with 8005 views | DejR_vu |
| Spot of bother now........ on 19:15 - Feb 4 by traininvain |
The point is that we had a plan with a manager who'd assembled a squad and had pre-season to work with the players.
The football wasn't great but we were a fairly comfortable mid table side.
Now we have a new manager, a whole host of new signings and not much time for them all to settle..
So we've rolled the dice by changing manager halfway through the season when it wasn't really necessary. Could easily have waited till the summer.
I'm not anti Holloway or pro JFH. Simply pointing out that the owners have made a very risky move and might end up paying a big price.
Still, I'm sure the entertainment would be great in League One. |
I'm not convinced we were comfortably mid-table. We were most definitely on the slide.
The football was so boring even the players on the pitch were falling asleep.
I don't think changing the manager, yet again, was the issue. I think who they appointed was the big gamble. Let's all just hope we can get across the line. | |
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| Spot of bother now........ on 19:24 - Feb 4 with 7984 views | bosh67 |
| Spot of bother now........ on 19:15 - Feb 4 by traininvain |
The point is that we had a plan with a manager who'd assembled a squad and had pre-season to work with the players.
The football wasn't great but we were a fairly comfortable mid table side.
Now we have a new manager, a whole host of new signings and not much time for them all to settle..
So we've rolled the dice by changing manager halfway through the season when it wasn't really necessary. Could easily have waited till the summer.
I'm not anti Holloway or pro JFH. Simply pointing out that the owners have made a very risky move and might end up paying a big price.
Still, I'm sure the entertainment would be great in League One. |
I understand your point but JFH was getting some results purely out of luck rather than judgement. Fulham and Forest away we got 4 points from, but the reality was that both tore us apart and failed to convert chances and penalties against us. Then there was Newcastle at home and Brentford at home, to of the most clueless performances in the club's modern history.
Totally get what you are saying, and perhaps you are right. But as another poster said more briefly, JFH wasn't taking us upwards. He took on a squad from Ramsey that had no shape or style and continued that. Ollie is at least trying to get us up the pitch in games. It's not easy because he has just got in the personnel to make that task easier, but with not many games to go. But I still believe this squad can win 6 more games out of 16. | |
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| Spot of bother now........ on 19:26 - Feb 4 with 7968 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| Spot of bother now........ on 19:15 - Feb 4 by traininvain |
The point is that we had a plan with a manager who'd assembled a squad and had pre-season to work with the players.
The football wasn't great but we were a fairly comfortable mid table side.
Now we have a new manager, a whole host of new signings and not much time for them all to settle..
So we've rolled the dice by changing manager halfway through the season when it wasn't really necessary. Could easily have waited till the summer.
I'm not anti Holloway or pro JFH. Simply pointing out that the owners have made a very risky move and might end up paying a big price.
Still, I'm sure the entertainment would be great in League One. |
Well I think we would have got smashed against Reading Fulham and NU if JFH was still in charge.
Would we have done any better today I doubt that very much
Burton was a feck up and I can't defend that but it's crap about should have stuck with JFH . |  |
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| Spot of bother now........ on 19:26 - Feb 4 with 7964 views | Match82 |
| Spot of bother now........ on 19:14 - Feb 4 by bosh67 |
16 games and I reckon to be safe we need to win 6 of them. That really should be doable with this squad. Hopefully they don't get too down about today because they are playing a lot better. |
Nah, 3 or 4 wins, another couple of draws, that will be enough |  | | |
| Spot of bother now........ on 19:32 - Feb 4 with 7917 views | Lblock |
| Spot of bother now........ on 19:01 - Feb 4 by traininvain |
It's almost like sacking the manager midway through a season wasn't such a great idea. |
We'd be jousting with Rotherham if that c0ck was still in charge
I agree we shouldn't of got rid of him mid season though; he should've gone in the summer
But we've done that to death
That last minute Forest winner hasn't lightened my mood. I'm now very much nervously looking in both wing mirrors
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| Spot of bother now........ on 19:36 - Feb 4 with 7903 views | THEBUSH |
| Spot of bother now........ on 19:15 - Feb 4 by traininvain |
The point is that we had a plan with a manager who'd assembled a squad and had pre-season to work with the players.
The football wasn't great but we were a fairly comfortable mid table side.
Now we have a new manager, a whole host of new signings and not much time for them all to settle..
So we've rolled the dice by changing manager halfway through the season when it wasn't really necessary. Could easily have waited till the summer.
I'm not anti Holloway or pro JFH. Simply pointing out that the owners have made a very risky move and might end up paying a big price.
Still, I'm sure the entertainment would be great in League One. |
Hope League One ain't our fate, but that's it for me, no more managers or players, we stick with what we have. |  | | |
| Spot of bother now........ on 19:38 - Feb 4 with 7888 views | RuislipHoop |
Hey ho,21st will do come May. | | | |
| Spot of bother now........ on 19:55 - Feb 4 with 7805 views | SimonJames |
| Spot of bother now........ on 18:30 - Feb 4 by Lblock |
In the cold light of a glass of Malbec I am currently hugely concerned
Defeats to Rotherham, Burton and Blackburn "fackin" Rovers erode any confidence displays against Reading, Foolham and Geordies gave.
The lack of goals is a clear issue which I'm not sure Smith or Ravel can answer over a dozen games
The Burton home game could well have been a pivotal moment.
Gutted we didn't win today. To not get anything when level and on top for 90 mins is a scandal
Oh dear |
Since we've only beaten them once in the last 12 outings I don't understand why people were so optimistic that Blackburn was going to be a win. We're all up about a midweek draw against Newcastle, whereas Blackburn have actually beaten them both at home and away this season.
Burton should have reminded us not to start feeling confident. But not to worry, next week we'll get a glorious 1-0 win against Huddersfield and the buzz will once again swing from bust to boom (at least until we lose 2-0 to Brum). |  |
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| Spot of bother now........ on 19:58 - Feb 4 with 7789 views | CamberleyR |
Fck me, just seen that Forest result. An injury time defeat after having a perfectly good goal not given, two of our rivals getting injury time winners, today is about as shit as it gets.
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| Spot of bother now........ on 20:04 - Feb 4 with 7750 views | Jamie |
| Spot of bother now........ on 19:32 - Feb 4 by Lblock |
We'd be jousting with Rotherham if that c0ck was still in charge
I agree we shouldn't of got rid of him mid season though; he should've gone in the summer
But we've done that to death
That last minute Forest winner hasn't lightened my mood. I'm now very much nervously looking in both wing mirrors
Oh deary deary me |
So we would be rock bottom now if we hadn't sacked a manager getting better results than we currently are?
Some glorious logic there. | | | |
| Spot of bother now........ on 20:13 - Feb 4 with 7702 views | dodge_stoke_r |
If Haselbank had still been here. Washington would be playing left wing, Furlong would be playing for Swindon and and Manning would have been out the doorin January. Whatever happens for the rest of the season, good riddance |  | | |
| Spot of bother now........ on 20:15 - Feb 4 with 7696 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| Spot of bother now........ on 20:04 - Feb 4 by Jamie |
So we would be rock bottom now if we hadn't sacked a manager getting better results than we currently are?
Some glorious logic there. |
So I suppose the disallowed goal would have counted today if JFH was the manager | |
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| Spot of bother now........ on 20:15 - Feb 4 with 7687 views | Lblock |
| Spot of bother now........ on 20:04 - Feb 4 by Jamie |
So we would be rock bottom now if we hadn't sacked a manager getting better results than we currently are?
Some glorious logic there. |
ODH win ratio 30.23%
Sir Ollie win ratio 22.2%
So you have a point - lets go the Bentford stats route then shall we?
You actually reckon that ODH would've kept us out of the bottom three and you'd have been happy to witness another 26 or so peformances from him? If so then you my friend are a lost cause to me.
I'm worried, but I am a born worrier. If it'd been ODH at the helm still then I wouldn't be worried, I'd of been sure as God made little apples that we were down and buried.
Ollie has brought hope, spirit and some much improved performances and I was gutted we got nish from the Villa and Derby games for instance as we deserved it. Same again today by all accounts and that really is a concern.
We'll see | |
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| Spot of bother now........ on 20:22 - Feb 4 with 7652 views | Jamie |
| Spot of bother now........ on 20:15 - Feb 4 by Lblock |
ODH win ratio 30.23%
Sir Ollie win ratio 22.2%
So you have a point - lets go the Bentford stats route then shall we?
You actually reckon that ODH would've kept us out of the bottom three and you'd have been happy to witness another 26 or so peformances from him? If so then you my friend are a lost cause to me.
I'm worried, but I am a born worrier. If it'd been ODH at the helm still then I wouldn't be worried, I'd of been sure as God made little apples that we were down and buried.
Ollie has brought hope, spirit and some much improved performances and I was gutted we got nish from the Villa and Derby games for instance as we deserved it. Same again today by all accounts and that really is a concern.
We'll see |
I wouldn't have enjoyed a season of Hasselbaink football as he could see the same as us - we can't defend or score - so set us up to be hard to beat but unexciting to watch. Much like the majority of clubs outside the top 4 of the PL.
Whilst unexciting to watch though, he would've comfortably kept us up, quite contrary to your embarrasing claim that we would be rock bottom if he was here still. | | | |
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