| No deal on 13:05 - Apr 3 with 602 views | ROTTWEILERS |
| No deal on 09:16 - Apr 3 by spudgun |
Whilst acknowledging the very good sense in wagering a hard earned tenner on the visionary political colossus that is Christopher Grayling, I feel that Mark Francois may be the dark pygmy pony come the bun fight... |
Partnership working going well then....
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| No deal on 13:27 - Apr 3 with 594 views | BringBackTheRedRoom |
| No deal on 13:05 - Apr 3 by ROTTWEILERS |
Partnership working going well then....
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Strange PMQs, BoJo doing a flounce for the cameras, remainer ministers grinning like Cheshire cats at one question, and to top it all off there is this.....
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| ‘Where there is harmony, may we bring discord. Where there is truth, may we bring error. Where there is faith, may we bring doubt. And where there is hope, may we bring despair’ |
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| No deal on 13:32 - Apr 3 with 589 views | basilrobbiereborn |
| No deal on 13:27 - Apr 3 by BringBackTheRedRoom |
Strange PMQs, BoJo doing a flounce for the cameras, remainer ministers grinning like Cheshire cats at one question, and to top it all off there is this.....
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I'd be embarrassed to be associated with a letter like that. Talk about throwing your toys out of the pram......
If we end up with a soft Brexit, a second referendum and/or no Brexit, the ERG have only got themselves to blame. |  |
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| No deal on 13:48 - Apr 3 with 585 views | BringBackTheRedRoom |
| No deal on 13:32 - Apr 3 by basilrobbiereborn |
I'd be embarrassed to be associated with a letter like that. Talk about throwing your toys out of the pram......
If we end up with a soft Brexit, a second referendum and/or no Brexit, the ERG have only got themselves to blame. |
On the back of that note it has another list written in crayon starting "Dear Santa"...
Not just about Brexit though, some of these MPs have not been happy with the way the Tory party has been moving since Cameron was elected leader in 2005. They would prefer a move towards a "American Republican Party" type agenda. Brexit is just a tool in long term aims. | |
| ‘Where there is harmony, may we bring discord. Where there is truth, may we bring error. Where there is faith, may we bring doubt. And where there is hope, may we bring despair’ |
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| No deal on 15:14 - Apr 3 with 562 views | spudgun |
Ah! Subterfuge and sophistry; at the root of so many of the Brexit problems that got us to where we are now.
Not forgetting Steve Baker, Mark Francois and the rest of the lunatic wing of the ERG, of course.
It`s quite amazing that John Redwood and Owen Patterson are now possibly viewed as only moderate Eurosceptics by comparison... | | | |
| No deal on 15:42 - Apr 3 with 556 views | ROTTWEILERS |
| No deal on 15:14 - Apr 3 by spudgun |
Ah! Subterfuge and sophistry; at the root of so many of the Brexit problems that got us to where we are now.
Not forgetting Steve Baker, Mark Francois and the rest of the lunatic wing of the ERG, of course.
It`s quite amazing that John Redwood and Owen Patterson are now possibly viewed as only moderate Eurosceptics by comparison... |
May has already shown her hand by saying she wants to leave the EU with a deal which should leave JC pulling all of the strings. Which of course means Mrs May will play her usual stubborn hard ball from the off.....
I predict a long extension and EU elections is looming. | |
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| No deal on 18:58 - Apr 4 with 531 views | ROTTWEILERS |
| No deal on 15:42 - Apr 3 by ROTTWEILERS |
May has already shown her hand by saying she wants to leave the EU with a deal which should leave JC pulling all of the strings. Which of course means Mrs May will play her usual stubborn hard ball from the off.....
I predict a long extension and EU elections is looming. |
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| No deal on 09:30 - Apr 5 with 507 views | BringBackTheRedRoom |
So a further extension until 30 June has been requested by the PM.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47825841 | |
| ‘Where there is harmony, may we bring discord. Where there is truth, may we bring error. Where there is faith, may we bring doubt. And where there is hope, may we bring despair’ |
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| No deal on 18:27 - Apr 5 with 495 views | ROTTWEILERS |
They offered a year, May asks for two months. She's not very good at this is she? | |
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| No deal on 18:39 - Apr 5 with 489 views | spudgun |
| No deal on 18:27 - Apr 5 by ROTTWEILERS |
They offered a year, May asks for two months. She's not very good at this is she? |
Rodney, in` Fools and Horses`, and the lawn mowers springs to mind with her.
Saw Rees Mogg interviewed on tv at teatime getting things spectacularly wrong again too... | | | |
| No deal on 10:19 - Apr 8 with 470 views | BringBackTheRedRoom |
For the run chaser Lala  | |
| ‘Where there is harmony, may we bring discord. Where there is truth, may we bring error. Where there is faith, may we bring doubt. And where there is hope, may we bring despair’ |
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| No deal on 10:20 - Apr 8 with 465 views | Lala |
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| No deal on 12:14 - Apr 8 with 459 views | spell_chekker |
| No deal on 10:20 - Apr 8 by Lala |
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This week's timetable -
Monday
EU chief negotiator Michel Barnier has flown to Dublin for urgent talks with the Irish PM Leo Varadkar. They’ll give a press conference in the afternoon when they’re done.
Ireland — which has the most to lose from a no-deal — is the most positive of the 27 member states about granting Britain an extension, and the Taoiseach met with other EU leaders like Macron and Merkel last week to try and persuade them they shouldn’t risk it.
Will Ireland be told to hold the line, or will the Commission end up shifting to help its member state? It could be a compromise, and we may not really know the outcome until later in the week.
Meanwhile in Westminster, a cross-party bill aimed preventing a no-deal Brexit is expected to get Royal assent tonight. The Cooper-Letwin bill gives MPs the power to tell the prime minister to request a longer extension of Article 50 — she currently only wants a short one. This could be crucial in talks, because some EU states want the UK to accept a long extension rather than the short one the prime minister has asked for.
Tuesday
EU affairs ministers from the 27 EU countries will meet in Brussels early on Tuesday morning to prepare for Wednesday’s summit. These so-called “general affairs council” meetings are about preparing the ground for the leaders the next day.
Once the ministers have made their positions known, there’ll be a press conference, and depending on progress, we might have a pretty good idea of what the consensus on the continent is about an extension — or whether there is one yet.
Some hours after this, Theresa May is due to pay last-ditch visits to Emmanuel Macron in Paris and Angela Merkel in Berlin to try and persuade them of her point of request for a short extension.
Don’t expect much from these visits: as we know, ministers will already have been meeting earlier in the morning and laying out their positions. There could always be a surprise, but historically, the prime minister’s visits to EU capitals haven’t yielded any.
There's been some speculation that prime minister could use Tuesday to call for further indicative votes in parliament on the way forward, if there's no progress in talks with Labour — though it doesn't look likely at the moment.
Wednesday
EU leaders will gather in Brussels at 6pm on Wednesday — an unusually late summit. The only thing on the agenda is whether to grant the UK a Brexit extension.
We don’t know the exact format of the discussion yet, but if past precedent if anything to go by the prime minister will probably be given a chance to address the 27 leaders, who will then go off by themselves and figure it out without her present.
Given the late start and the contentiousness of the issue, we could be in a for a long night. The last couple of Brexit discussions have run very late. Donald Tusk and Jean-Claude Juncker are expected to give a press conference when the debate is finished announcing the result.
Thursday
Whatever happens in Brussels, you can expect fall-out in Westminster on Thursday. Will there be resignations from the Cabinet? Or will things settle down?
Friday
Friday 12 April is currently Brexit day. Will it be Brexit day by the time it rolls around? If an extension is granted, we’ll have a new one. |  |
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| No deal on 21:31 - Apr 8 with 441 views | ROTTWEILERS |
| No deal on 12:14 - Apr 8 by spell_chekker |
This week's timetable -
Monday
EU chief negotiator Michel Barnier has flown to Dublin for urgent talks with the Irish PM Leo Varadkar. They’ll give a press conference in the afternoon when they’re done.
Ireland — which has the most to lose from a no-deal — is the most positive of the 27 member states about granting Britain an extension, and the Taoiseach met with other EU leaders like Macron and Merkel last week to try and persuade them they shouldn’t risk it.
Will Ireland be told to hold the line, or will the Commission end up shifting to help its member state? It could be a compromise, and we may not really know the outcome until later in the week.
Meanwhile in Westminster, a cross-party bill aimed preventing a no-deal Brexit is expected to get Royal assent tonight. The Cooper-Letwin bill gives MPs the power to tell the prime minister to request a longer extension of Article 50 — she currently only wants a short one. This could be crucial in talks, because some EU states want the UK to accept a long extension rather than the short one the prime minister has asked for.
Tuesday
EU affairs ministers from the 27 EU countries will meet in Brussels early on Tuesday morning to prepare for Wednesday’s summit. These so-called “general affairs council” meetings are about preparing the ground for the leaders the next day.
Once the ministers have made their positions known, there’ll be a press conference, and depending on progress, we might have a pretty good idea of what the consensus on the continent is about an extension — or whether there is one yet.
Some hours after this, Theresa May is due to pay last-ditch visits to Emmanuel Macron in Paris and Angela Merkel in Berlin to try and persuade them of her point of request for a short extension.
Don’t expect much from these visits: as we know, ministers will already have been meeting earlier in the morning and laying out their positions. There could always be a surprise, but historically, the prime minister’s visits to EU capitals haven’t yielded any.
There's been some speculation that prime minister could use Tuesday to call for further indicative votes in parliament on the way forward, if there's no progress in talks with Labour — though it doesn't look likely at the moment.
Wednesday
EU leaders will gather in Brussels at 6pm on Wednesday — an unusually late summit. The only thing on the agenda is whether to grant the UK a Brexit extension.
We don’t know the exact format of the discussion yet, but if past precedent if anything to go by the prime minister will probably be given a chance to address the 27 leaders, who will then go off by themselves and figure it out without her present.
Given the late start and the contentiousness of the issue, we could be in a for a long night. The last couple of Brexit discussions have run very late. Donald Tusk and Jean-Claude Juncker are expected to give a press conference when the debate is finished announcing the result.
Thursday
Whatever happens in Brussels, you can expect fall-out in Westminster on Thursday. Will there be resignations from the Cabinet? Or will things settle down?
Friday
Friday 12 April is currently Brexit day. Will it be Brexit day by the time it rolls around? If an extension is granted, we’ll have a new one. |
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| No deal on 21:42 - Apr 8 with 437 views | BringBackTheRedRoom |
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| ‘Where there is harmony, may we bring discord. Where there is truth, may we bring error. Where there is faith, may we bring doubt. And where there is hope, may we bring despair’ |
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| No deal on 21:56 - Apr 8 with 434 views | ROTTWEILERS |
ERG aren't happy with the Cooper-Letwin bill being fast-tracked. Think they think Brexit hasn't been debated enough.... or there's loads of time. One or the other. | |
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| No deal on 18:08 - Apr 10 with 399 views | spell_chekker |
Is the UK leaving the EU the day after tomorrow? | |
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| No deal on 18:09 - Apr 10 with 399 views | BringBackTheRedRoom |
Think a year extension with some bells and whistles on, seems to be the front runner.
(Nearly 200 posts Lala!) | |
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| No deal on 19:43 - Apr 10 with 395 views | ROTTWEILERS |
| No deal on 18:09 - Apr 10 by BringBackTheRedRoom |
Think a year extension with some bells and whistles on, seems to be the front runner.
(Nearly 200 posts Lala!) |
A few extra conditions attached now thanks to Rees-Mogg, François' et al | |
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| No deal on 22:08 - Apr 10 with 381 views | Lala |
| No deal on 19:43 - Apr 10 by ROTTWEILERS |
A few extra conditions attached now thanks to Rees-Mogg, François' et al |
You’re French fella certainly doesn’t like us Spell. Why are his feelings so strong?
What impact does a delay have on France and the French? Does he support a no deal? And if so why particularly?
All very confusing?
Is macron using this to assert himself in view of his own political problems and discord nationally? | |
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| No deal on 22:18 - Apr 10 with 377 views | BringBackTheRedRoom |
| No deal on 22:08 - Apr 10 by Lala |
You’re French fella certainly doesn’t like us Spell. Why are his feelings so strong?
What impact does a delay have on France and the French? Does he support a no deal? And if so why particularly?
All very confusing?
Is macron using this to assert himself in view of his own political problems and discord nationally? |
Lala
EU parliamentary elections on 23rd of May, so a bit of public Brit kicking always goes down well. | |
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| No deal on 22:33 - Apr 10 with 372 views | Lala |
| No deal on 22:18 - Apr 10 by BringBackTheRedRoom |
Lala
EU parliamentary elections on 23rd of May, so a bit of public Brit kicking always goes down well. |
Agree with that Red! It’s all political posturing that makes me doubt the essence of the motives.
We clearly aren’t ready to leave with no concrete forward plan for us or the EU.
An extension isn’t a get out clause for us or anyone, just the only option at this juncture surely? | |
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