| No deal on 12:28 - Mar 27 with 515 views | BringBackTheRedRoom |
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| ‘Where there is harmony, may we bring discord. Where there is truth, may we bring error. Where there is faith, may we bring doubt. And where there is hope, may we bring despair’ |
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| No deal on 12:29 - Mar 27 with 514 views | spell_chekker |
| No deal on 12:13 - Mar 27 by BringBackTheRedRoom |
Spell
I've met him very briefly once. He's actually quite charming, very knowledgeable, but is totally class ridden (believes in a ruling class, sort of Victorian/Edwardian era, also has a bit of a temper, so I've been told). and smart. Has quite a few new Neo Con views as well, which seem to be popular with a group of people that read History at Oxford/Cambridge in the mid 80's through to the 90's.
Don't like him. |
Interesting that Red.
If he has a temper, he should show it. That's one of my complaints about politicians.
An ex-President over here was Sarkozy.
Even though I hated his politics I could see he had something.
He was hugely controversial, inspired great loyalty and is still influential today.
There was something real about him, something human. I remember a protesting farmer who was bugging him at an agricultural show was told to (in a fit of anger) 'sod off you dickhead'. In his mid 50s, he divorced his wife and soon after married a much younger top model. Had is heart on his sleeve sort of thing which came through in his politics.
Politicians are preoccupied with not being seen to do this, that or the other. They're difficult to relate to. Most of us fall over, get up again, make fools of ourselves and then make amends. |  |
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| No deal on 12:39 - Mar 27 with 509 views | BringBackTheRedRoom |
| No deal on 12:29 - Mar 27 by spell_chekker |
Interesting that Red.
If he has a temper, he should show it. That's one of my complaints about politicians.
An ex-President over here was Sarkozy.
Even though I hated his politics I could see he had something.
He was hugely controversial, inspired great loyalty and is still influential today.
There was something real about him, something human. I remember a protesting farmer who was bugging him at an agricultural show was told to (in a fit of anger) 'sod off you dickhead'. In his mid 50s, he divorced his wife and soon after married a much younger top model. Had is heart on his sleeve sort of thing which came through in his politics.
Politicians are preoccupied with not being seen to do this, that or the other. They're difficult to relate to. Most of us fall over, get up again, make fools of ourselves and then make amends. |
Think his totally out of date views are slightly more important than him getting cross with the servants because his breakfast was 2 mins late. Stalin had a temper, does that make him more human?
Remember Sarkozy, don't think many people related to him, got booted after one term. | |
| ‘Where there is harmony, may we bring discord. Where there is truth, may we bring error. Where there is faith, may we bring doubt. And where there is hope, may we bring despair’ |
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| No deal on 12:43 - Mar 27 with 503 views | spudgun |
| No deal on 12:39 - Mar 27 by BringBackTheRedRoom |
Think his totally out of date views are slightly more important than him getting cross with the servants because his breakfast was 2 mins late. Stalin had a temper, does that make him more human?
Remember Sarkozy, don't think many people related to him, got booted after one term. |
Possibly it`s because we fall over and make a fool of ourselves on a regular basis that we prefer our politicians to be the sensible `designated driver` type.
Ironic though that may be in this case... [Post edited 27 Mar 2019 13:49]
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| No deal on 12:46 - Mar 27 with 502 views | spell_chekker |
| No deal on 12:43 - Mar 27 by spudgun |
Possibly it`s because we fall over and make a fool of ourselves on a regular basis that we prefer our politicians to be the sensible `designated driver` type.
Ironic though that may be in this case... [Post edited 27 Mar 2019 13:49]
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Yes, booted out after one term and very happy to see him go. | |
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| No deal on 12:48 - Mar 27 with 502 views | spell_chekker |
It's all just a bit devoid of personality. | |
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| No deal on 13:13 - Mar 27 with 497 views | BringBackTheRedRoom |
| No deal on 12:48 - Mar 27 by spell_chekker |
It's all just a bit devoid of personality. |
Think there's plenty of personality in UK politics (except in the LibDems). It's a lack of policies and Leadership that's the main (but not only) problem IMHO. | |
| ‘Where there is harmony, may we bring discord. Where there is truth, may we bring error. Where there is faith, may we bring doubt. And where there is hope, may we bring despair’ |
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| No deal on 13:43 - Mar 27 with 491 views | ROTTWEILERS |
| No deal on 13:13 - Mar 27 by BringBackTheRedRoom |
Think there's plenty of personality in UK politics (except in the LibDems). It's a lack of policies and Leadership that's the main (but not only) problem IMHO. |
Cons govt to whip against indicative votes FFS |  |
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| No deal on 16:17 - Mar 27 with 478 views | kophero |
| No deal on 13:43 - Mar 27 by ROTTWEILERS |
Cons govt to whip against indicative votes FFS |
Biggest stumbling block to May's deal as it stands is Mr Speaker. | | | |
| No deal on 18:08 - Mar 27 with 458 views | ROTTWEILERS |
| No deal on 16:17 - Mar 27 by kophero |
Biggest stumbling block to May's deal as it stands is Mr Speaker. |
Good for him. Her deal has already been voted down twice. It doesn't suddenly become a good deal because the incompetent who negotiated it vaguely promises to step down maybe soon. | |
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| No deal on 18:17 - Mar 27 with 453 views | BringBackTheRedRoom |
Conservative Brexiteer Jacob Rees-Mogg now says that if the DUP abstains, he will back the prime minister's deal.
Talks between the government and their Northern Irish partners are continuing as we speak.
The DUP has previously said they are not minded to support the agreement but observers have pointed out that if they abstain, this could pave the way for it getting through.
Meanwhile, Mr Rees-Mogg would not comment on his leadership ambitions.
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| ‘Where there is harmony, may we bring discord. Where there is truth, may we bring error. Where there is faith, may we bring doubt. And where there is hope, may we bring despair’ |
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| No deal on 18:17 - Mar 27 with 453 views | janegallagher |
| No deal on 18:08 - Mar 27 by ROTTWEILERS |
Good for him. Her deal has already been voted down twice. It doesn't suddenly become a good deal because the incompetent who negotiated it vaguely promises to step down maybe soon. |
Am I the only person in the country who feels sorry for Treez |  |
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| No deal on 18:24 - Mar 27 with 450 views | ROTTWEILERS |
| No deal on 18:17 - Mar 27 by janegallagher |
Am I the only person in the country who feels sorry for Treez |
Not an ounce of sympathy. She has remained inflexible to the end. Deffo think she's on the spectrum. | |
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| No deal on 18:30 - Mar 27 with 447 views | janegallagher |
| No deal on 18:24 - Mar 27 by ROTTWEILERS |
Not an ounce of sympathy. She has remained inflexible to the end. Deffo think she's on the spectrum. |
She’s damned if she does and damned if she doesn’t. There’s not one politician imo who would have seen this through
Yes her rhythm’s not the best 😃 | |
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| No deal on 18:36 - Mar 27 with 444 views | janegallagher |
| No deal on 18:30 - Mar 27 by janegallagher |
She’s damned if she does and damned if she doesn’t. There’s not one politician imo who would have seen this through
Yes her rhythm’s not the best 😃 |
Just had an email
Parliament is going to debate the petition you signed — “Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU.”.
The debate is scheduled for 1 April 2019.
Once the debate has happened, we’ll email you a video and transcript.
Thanks,
The Petitions team
UK Government and Parliament | |
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| No deal on 18:58 - Mar 27 with 437 views | ROTTWEILERS |
Didn't Boris described this deal as a suicide vest? This whole charade is rotten to the core. | |
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| No deal on 19:13 - Mar 27 with 434 views | spudgun |
| No deal on 18:58 - Mar 27 by ROTTWEILERS |
Didn't Boris described this deal as a suicide vest? This whole charade is rotten to the core. |
"Suicide vest"?
Vested interest more likely... | | | |
| No deal on 21:36 - Mar 27 with 423 views | ROTTWEILERS |
| No deal on 19:13 - Mar 27 by spudgun |
"Suicide vest"?
Vested interest more likely... |
DUP voting against MV3. Boris and JRS in a whirl .... | |
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| No deal on 21:51 - Mar 27 with 418 views | spell_chekker |
Surprise, surprise -
No majority for any of Brexit options
Brexit deadlock: None of MPs' proposed options secures clear backing in Commons vote | |
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| No deal on 21:56 - Mar 27 with 413 views | BringBackTheRedRoom |
| No deal on 21:51 - Mar 27 by spell_chekker |
Surprise, surprise -
No majority for any of Brexit options
Brexit deadlock: None of MPs' proposed options secures clear backing in Commons vote |
Yeah, no surprise MPs were whipped. Ken Clarke's Custom Union one failed by 8 votes, but there were 100 abstentions (which is bizarre to say the least).
Might see this amended and put forward again on Monday, if MV3 happens and fails. | |
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| No deal on 22:18 - Mar 27 with 402 views | kophero |
| No deal on 21:56 - Mar 27 by BringBackTheRedRoom |
Yeah, no surprise MPs were whipped. Ken Clarke's Custom Union one failed by 8 votes, but there were 100 abstentions (which is bizarre to say the least).
Might see this amended and put forward again on Monday, if MV3 happens and fails. |
I know that people only voted for stuff they thought they could support, but abstaining seems bizarre to me as well. What was the point of seizing control if you then sit on your hands?
Clueless, the lot of them. | | | |
| No deal on 23:00 - Mar 27 with 392 views | BringBackTheRedRoom |
| No deal on 22:18 - Mar 27 by kophero |
I know that people only voted for stuff they thought they could support, but abstaining seems bizarre to me as well. What was the point of seizing control if you then sit on your hands?
Clueless, the lot of them. |
Here's the votes tonight
Labour’s alternative plan — Not supported
For: 237
Against: 307
Revocation to avoid no deal — Not supported
For: 184
Against: 293
Confirmatory public vote — Not supported
For: 268
Against: 295
Contingent preferential arrangements — Not supported
For: 139
Against: 422
Posted at 21:4321:43
First four indicative vote options not supported
No Deal - Not supported
For: 160
Against: 400
Common Market 2.0 - Not supported
For: 188
Against: 283
EFTA and EEA - Not supported
For: 65
Against: 377
Customs union - Not supported
For: 264
Against: 272
Knockout EFTA &EEA, No Deal, Contingent preferential arrangements, Labours plan, Revoking article 50 & Common Market 2.0. That leaves two options, both of which got more support than TM deal.
Think a lot of Tories abstained, more on some votes than others.
The idea (iirc) was to then take any ideas that could get a majority on to a second day of discussions & votes on Monday. Could all change on Friday tho, if MV3 goes ahead. [Post edited 27 Mar 2019 23:02]
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| No deal on 07:52 - Mar 28 with 377 views | ROTTWEILERS |
| No deal on 23:00 - Mar 27 by BringBackTheRedRoom |
Here's the votes tonight
Labour’s alternative plan — Not supported
For: 237
Against: 307
Revocation to avoid no deal — Not supported
For: 184
Against: 293
Confirmatory public vote — Not supported
For: 268
Against: 295
Contingent preferential arrangements — Not supported
For: 139
Against: 422
Posted at 21:4321:43
First four indicative vote options not supported
No Deal - Not supported
For: 160
Against: 400
Common Market 2.0 - Not supported
For: 188
Against: 283
EFTA and EEA - Not supported
For: 65
Against: 377
Customs union - Not supported
For: 264
Against: 272
Knockout EFTA &EEA, No Deal, Contingent preferential arrangements, Labours plan, Revoking article 50 & Common Market 2.0. That leaves two options, both of which got more support than TM deal.
Think a lot of Tories abstained, more on some votes than others.
The idea (iirc) was to then take any ideas that could get a majority on to a second day of discussions & votes on Monday. Could all change on Friday tho, if MV3 goes ahead. [Post edited 27 Mar 2019 23:02]
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Was watching this live last night. Soubry and the speaker were inaudible due to jeering. What a shame an attempt at finding a pragmatic way through was treated with such contempt. Plenty of Parliamentarians come out with credit.. eg. Margaret Beckett, Ken Clarke and Sir Oliver Letwin but they are few and far between. | |
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| No deal on 10:25 - Mar 28 with 360 views | BringBackTheRedRoom |
| No deal on 07:52 - Mar 28 by ROTTWEILERS |
Was watching this live last night. Soubry and the speaker were inaudible due to jeering. What a shame an attempt at finding a pragmatic way through was treated with such contempt. Plenty of Parliamentarians come out with credit.. eg. Margaret Beckett, Ken Clarke and Sir Oliver Letwin but they are few and far between. |
Had a look at who voted for what last night. I think the SNP, LibDems and The Independent Group, should hang their heads in shame.
Here's a breakdown of how some of the votes went, and you can check how your own MP voted.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47726787 | |
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