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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD 09:59 - Apr 16 with 18833 viewsNotLoyal

The Reading isn’t a library, it isn’t even a bookshop, they are on form, Swansea could be, what will we learn ? Are Swansea still tired ? Are you ? Is it the same but faster or then slower ?

This game is not on the red button of SKY 🔴




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Scott Ledger and Matthew Wilkes
Fourth Official : Declan Bourne

Having had a dose of the Andy Woolmer’s on Friday, it’s the friendly Kevin’s for this game.

Reading fans are hard as flex. They blocked a bus once. All of them.



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A draw ?


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Reading: Orjan Nyland, Michael Morrison (captain), Tom McIntyre, Tom Ince, Danny Drinkwater, Andy Yiadom, Lucas Joao, Tom Dele-Bashiru, Baba Rahman, Junior Hoilett, Josh Laurent.

Substitutes: Luke Southwood, Alen Halilovic, Yakou Meite, Terrell Thomas, Femi Azeez, Brandon Baker, Kelvin Ehibhatiomhan.

Swansea City: Andy Fisher; Ben Cabango, Kyle Naughton, Joel Latibeaudiere; Cyrus Christie, Flynn Downes, Matt Grimes (captain), Hannes Wolf; Joel Piroe, Jamie Paterson, Michael Obafemi.

Substitutes: Ben Hamer, Ryan Manning, Jay Fulton, Korey Smith, Olivier Ntcham, Kyle Joseph, Cameron Congreve.





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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 19:55 - Apr 18 with 1011 viewsmagicdaps10

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 19:15 - Apr 18 by onehunglow

I have pledged not to comment regarding RM as an individual .I will stand by that although it's hard not to feel indignation over his scandalous comment about us not being a proper club. That He is the one to make us such shows massive arrogance.
We have always been a proper club;fans are decent and have been through a lot. My ol man died this week 5 three years ago.At 93 ,he was still fuming amongst the pain of the bowel cancer and he was always complaining.Never happy.A proper fan.
He look me to my first game in 1958 and I sat on his knee amongst proper fans in a proper old rickety centre stand with a bag of boiled sweets to gorge myself sick on.The fans around us were hard working working class proper folk who wore a collar and tie and a Mackintosh to games after they d worked that morning in the foundry,pit,steelworks,factory.

I read of some Brighton vegan who used to play for Norwich City and won nothing in his career now basically saying we are nowt more than trailer trash until HE changes us.

People can either be taken in by this or not.If they are,then the storm that will come will engulf them.

It's just as well I am clearly on a yellow card on here and I dont want the trolls to win and seeing me go for good.

I love my football club and the current situation upsets me deeply.People in Australia,NZ ,USA ,China,Gibraltar will all feel this indignity ;few will manifest their feelings on a forum such as this.


Sorry to read that OHL, brings a lot of things into perspective when things like that happen and not nice when the anniversary comes along.

Makes you realise that today was just a football game and really means not a lot.

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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 19:55 - Apr 18 with 1011 viewsvetchonian

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 19:52 - Apr 18 by 73__73

Yes without Piroe, we’d only have 10 men on the field 😂


several points less...Piroes individual goal v Blackpool at home earned us a point......

keep posting drivel..
..

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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 19:58 - Apr 18 with 999 viewsFireboy2

Just come on to have a quick look at the site 🙄

Now I'm going to log off, bye.
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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 20:04 - Apr 18 with 986 views73__73

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 19:55 - Apr 18 by vetchonian

several points less...Piroes individual goal v Blackpool at home earned us a point......

keep posting drivel..
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Show me the evidence that without Piroe, wed have been worse off this season ?
If you can I’ll make a £100 donation to a charity of your choice.
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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 20:08 - Apr 18 with 968 viewsvetchonian

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 20:04 - Apr 18 by 73__73

Show me the evidence that without Piroe, wed have been worse off this season ?
If you can I’ll make a £100 donation to a charity of your choice.
[Post edited 18 Apr 2022 20:06]


so you are saying that without Piroes 20 goals we would be ok?

where else would those goals have come from

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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 20:11 - Apr 18 with 962 views73__73

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 20:08 - Apr 18 by vetchonian

so you are saying that without Piroes 20 goals we would be ok?

where else would those goals have come from


Prove to me if we had signed a different player to Piroe that player wouldn’t have scored 20 plus goals this season ? £100 donation is waiting

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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 20:11 - Apr 18 with 962 viewsjasper_T

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 20:08 - Apr 18 by vetchonian

so you are saying that without Piroes 20 goals we would be ok?

where else would those goals have come from


Bet Cullen would have finished those same chances. Piroe's nothing special.

No one should buy him.
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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 20:12 - Apr 18 with 955 views73__73

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 20:11 - Apr 18 by jasper_T

Bet Cullen would have finished those same chances. Piroe's nothing special.

No one should buy him.


So we wouldn’t have signed anyone else ?

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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 20:15 - Apr 18 with 944 viewsonehunglow

Did I mention "proper club". One thinh MK Dons will never be.

Gang back.


Dont blame em;we're all seething

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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 20:17 - Apr 18 with 940 viewsvetchonian

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 20:12 - Apr 18 by 73__73

So we wouldn’t have signed anyone else ?


suggest someone....

Piroe is the 4th highest scorer.....who else light we have signed?

or as Jasper said would Cullen have scored them? Or maybe Whittaker?

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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 20:18 - Apr 18 with 933 viewsonehunglow

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:11 - Apr 18 by raynor94

Which is the correct answer


and we should have seen our players fighting too,if only for the many fans that paid good money to go up there.
They should also be fighting for their next contract or new club

They didnt.

That said,some of our players can't do the basics fight or not.

Ince has caught his dad's genes alright;feisty chap.

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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 20:24 - Apr 18 with 911 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 19:50 - Apr 18 by STID2017

There is no gang culture.
Just that a lot of people resent the negativity he brings to the board.
He clearly hates Martin and waits until we get pegged back to post.
Nowhere to be seen when we were 4-1 up.
Just my opinion, regardless of what others feel regarding him.


That is absolutely no excuse for posting personal insults or personally derogative comments apart from saying you disagree.
Because that is expressing your opinion without attacking the person.
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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 20:25 - Apr 18 with 907 views73__73

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 20:17 - Apr 18 by vetchonian

suggest someone....

Piroe is the 4th highest scorer.....who else light we have signed?

or as Jasper said would Cullen have scored them? Or maybe Whittaker?


It’s not for me to suggest. You made the claim without Piroe we be worse off.

Do you know all the transfer targets before the season started ? I’d expect unless you are the chairman or someone involved with transfers at the club you wouldn’t have a clue.
So therefore you can not prove we’d be worse off.

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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 20:30 - Apr 18 with 876 viewsonehunglow

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 19:55 - Apr 18 by magicdaps10

Sorry to read that OHL, brings a lot of things into perspective when things like that happen and not nice when the anniversary comes along.

Makes you realise that today was just a football game and really means not a lot.


That's a welcome post.Being banned wasnt easy watching the unmitigated dross posted .It was sickening. We are all hurting. We manifest it different ways.I hold a grudge against only one poster no longer on here whom I will meet again someday .The crepe I get is understandable.The truth always hurts. We have to be honest though.If people rip me on here that's fine but for God's ake ,look in the mirror because what post is the truth and the truth is that right now we are rudderless and face the inevitable ale of Piroe,a fantastic buy ;brilliant lad,still played out of position. He will go on to crucify teams and I wish him well.Hopefully our putrid owners dont flog him cheap.They will.

My ol fella was difficult;a real Jack ,one with fire in the belly although much was religious based but he did use profane language in the centre stand but next day he was at Chapel on his knees praying . He hated the Swans losing. My mum too.
My wife hates it too-after 44 years not surprising really.
Ive lost many friends who thought we were a proper club so it's natural I feel as I do to read comments that I have.

Finally, dont but Jammy Red California wine.I was bought a bottle ,opened it then poured it down the sink.

All in all as Gary Glitter said...Its good to be back

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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 20:42 - Apr 18 with 837 viewsFlashberryjack

Any manager that watched his team throw away a 4-1 lead, really needs to take a really long hard look at his tactics and his players.

Absolute disgrace.

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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 20:59 - Apr 18 with 788 viewsjasper_T

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 20:25 - Apr 18 by 73__73

It’s not for me to suggest. You made the claim without Piroe we be worse off.

Do you know all the transfer targets before the season started ? I’d expect unless you are the chairman or someone involved with transfers at the club you wouldn’t have a clue.
So therefore you can not prove we’d be worse off.


This is a strange hill to die on. Piroe has been fantastic and has surpassed expectations. We'll be lucky to hold on to him. Absolute bargain at twice the price.

You're not winning as many points as you think by explaining that we can't know for sure that some alternate reality striker wouldn't have done better.
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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 21:01 - Apr 18 with 778 viewsSTID2017

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 20:24 - Apr 18 by A_Fans_Dad

That is absolutely no excuse for posting personal insults or personally derogative comments apart from saying you disagree.
Because that is expressing your opinion without attacking the person.


I am not personally attacking him, just his views and his negativity.
Is that a personal attack on him ?
If people want to say I am pro Martin and too positive because I invariably think we are going to win every game, get into the playoffs, etc, would they be being personal about me ?
If half a dozen expressed the same opinion about me is that " gang culture " in reverse?
Too much nonsense been going on this board lately, which Keith and Not Loyal have asked us all to bring and end to.
I have tried to adhere to that request.

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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 21:06 - Apr 18 with 754 viewsvetchonian

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 21:01 - Apr 18 by STID2017

I am not personally attacking him, just his views and his negativity.
Is that a personal attack on him ?
If people want to say I am pro Martin and too positive because I invariably think we are going to win every game, get into the playoffs, etc, would they be being personal about me ?
If half a dozen expressed the same opinion about me is that " gang culture " in reverse?
Too much nonsense been going on this board lately, which Keith and Not Loyal have asked us all to bring and end to.
I have tried to adhere to that request.


a couple of weeks ago you had changed your mind on Martin...until we did the double....fickle?

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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 21:06 - Apr 18 with 753 viewsLuther27

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 20:59 - Apr 18 by jasper_T

This is a strange hill to die on. Piroe has been fantastic and has surpassed expectations. We'll be lucky to hold on to him. Absolute bargain at twice the price.

You're not winning as many points as you think by explaining that we can't know for sure that some alternate reality striker wouldn't have done better.


Todays result sort of backs up what I said on another thread. We need to keep our best….and after today it’s not much of a guess which areas we need to strengthen.
At the end of the day within reason what is the club’s ambition?
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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 21:10 - Apr 18 with 742 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 21:01 - Apr 18 by STID2017

I am not personally attacking him, just his views and his negativity.
Is that a personal attack on him ?
If people want to say I am pro Martin and too positive because I invariably think we are going to win every game, get into the playoffs, etc, would they be being personal about me ?
If half a dozen expressed the same opinion about me is that " gang culture " in reverse?
Too much nonsense been going on this board lately, which Keith and Not Loyal have asked us all to bring and end to.
I have tried to adhere to that request.


Did I say that you just attacked him?
Was I responding to your comment?

Have you ever considered even for one second that continual attacks on the person of posters are an even bigger turn off than a negative attitude towards the way we play and how our manager is perceived?

Please do not insult my intelligence by saying you haven't done so in the recent past.
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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 21:13 - Apr 18 with 733 views73__73

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 20:59 - Apr 18 by jasper_T

This is a strange hill to die on. Piroe has been fantastic and has surpassed expectations. We'll be lucky to hold on to him. Absolute bargain at twice the price.

You're not winning as many points as you think by explaining that we can't know for sure that some alternate reality striker wouldn't have done better.


I’m not interested in winning any points. I’m just pointing out the fact that it’s impossible to be sure that without Piroe we’d be in a worse position, because you don’t know who the club would have signed instead of him.

All you can do is say it’s your opinion because that’s all it is, unless you are the chairman or you are involved with transfers at the club.

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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 21:16 - Apr 18 with 720 viewsvetchonian

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 21:13 - Apr 18 by 73__73

I’m not interested in winning any points. I’m just pointing out the fact that it’s impossible to be sure that without Piroe we’d be in a worse position, because you don’t know who the club would have signed instead of him.

All you can do is say it’s your opinion because that’s all it is, unless you are the chairman or you are involved with transfers at the club.


yet many have stated without Ayew last season we wouldn't have made the playoffs.

tell me then what other players could we have signed to give us those 20 goals..we signed Ovafemi...he has been a good signing yet is nowhere near Piroes20

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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 21:16 - Apr 18 with 716 viewsSTID2017

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 21:06 - Apr 18 by vetchonian

a couple of weeks ago you had changed your mind on Martin...until we did the double....fickle?


Yes. Just a typical football fan.
Like many I had travelled to Blackpool and Peterborough,and was personally disappointed by our performances and watched us put in a very disappointing performance against Birmingham.
So yes I was seething.
Three games in which IMHO we were very poor.
Then ( in much the way as the players recharged their batteries before the Cardiff game ) I calmed down and regained my optimism before we played Cardiff.
If we get battered by Middlesbrough on Saturday then I will no doubt be unhappy again.
My views ebb and flow like the tide on a sea of Swans results.
I don't come with prefixed ideas, regardless of results and performance.
As I said, just a typical football fan.
EDIT - Actually I predicted us to win 3 - 0 at Cardiff, so no, not after the Doube
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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 21:18 - Apr 18 with 714 views73__73

This Piroe argument is ridiculous anyway because he’s a Swansea player, so well done the club, chairman, owners, coaches, scouts etc on a fantastic signing. £1 million now with £20 million 👏

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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 21:22 - Apr 18 with 707 views73__73

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 21:16 - Apr 18 by vetchonian

yet many have stated without Ayew last season we wouldn't have made the playoffs.

tell me then what other players could we have signed to give us those 20 goals..we signed Ovafemi...he has been a good signing yet is nowhere near Piroes20


Your argument is built on sand.
It’s your opinion simple as that. No where in your argument is there any fact. You maybe correct, you maybe wrong. No facts. Just your opinion.

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