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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD 09:59 - Apr 16 with 18863 viewsNotLoyal

The Reading isn’t a library, it isn’t even a bookshop, they are on form, Swansea could be, what will we learn ? Are Swansea still tired ? Are you ? Is it the same but faster or then slower ?

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Reading: Orjan Nyland, Michael Morrison (captain), Tom McIntyre, Tom Ince, Danny Drinkwater, Andy Yiadom, Lucas Joao, Tom Dele-Bashiru, Baba Rahman, Junior Hoilett, Josh Laurent.

Substitutes: Luke Southwood, Alen Halilovic, Yakou Meite, Terrell Thomas, Femi Azeez, Brandon Baker, Kelvin Ehibhatiomhan.

Swansea City: Andy Fisher; Ben Cabango, Kyle Naughton, Joel Latibeaudiere; Cyrus Christie, Flynn Downes, Matt Grimes (captain), Hannes Wolf; Joel Piroe, Jamie Paterson, Michael Obafemi.

Substitutes: Ben Hamer, Ryan Manning, Jay Fulton, Korey Smith, Olivier Ntcham, Kyle Joseph, Cameron Congreve.





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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:27 - Apr 18 with 1085 viewskrunchykarrot

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:00 - Apr 18 by Brynmill_Jack

Serious questions have to be asked of the entire defence. Fisher hasn’t showed to be anywhere near superior to Hamer. A waste of money.


Yes he has BJ, better with his feet passing out which is what we get as a upgrade but lose out in the air.
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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:29 - Apr 18 with 1071 viewsSTID2017

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:10 - Apr 18 by onehunglow

And why do we do that ?

Who is responsible


Hwe were miles better on quality But ,as with Barnsley totally insult the opposition ,the type who have pride


Took pride to score 4 goals ( and TBH Obafemi could have had a hat trick)
First time back and here you are with the negativity.
It's down to the team when they are 4-1 up to keep that lead.
Any side throws that lead away needs to look at themselves.
Of course you think it is all down to Martin

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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:31 - Apr 18 with 1060 viewsmax936

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:22 - Apr 18 by jasper_T

Piroe gave away their penalty. Pretty sure Paterson missed a tackle in the box for one of theirs as well. Plenty of blame to go around.


Pato hasn't played that well again today for me at least.
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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:36 - Apr 18 with 1021 viewsKulusBeatFactory

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 16:21 - Apr 18 by Sirjohnalot

Playoffs tantalisingly out of reach. Going be about 2 points short


The plastics always come out when we're on a run (agAinst bottom half teams)

Shambolic. 4-4 also a shambles.
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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:38 - Apr 18 with 1011 viewsswan65split

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:29 - Apr 18 by STID2017

Took pride to score 4 goals ( and TBH Obafemi could have had a hat trick)
First time back and here you are with the negativity.
It's down to the team when they are 4-1 up to keep that lead.
Any side throws that lead away needs to look at themselves.
Of course you think it is all down to Martin


Agree, great effort to go 4 up, but then hey ho , comedy time again.

Need an experienced Captain in there to tighten them up, players at fault for this one sorry.

From one comedy show this after to Airplane tonight.
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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:39 - Apr 18 with 1004 viewskrunchykarrot

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:27 - Apr 18 by krunchykarrot

Yes he has BJ, better with his feet passing out which is what we get as a upgrade but lose out in the air.


Sorry BJ posted before i finished, i think our defence is the way its set up is liable to be got at really easily. Any midfielder can cause carnage without looking up by hit the diagonal in behind first time. Someone like say Shelvey would ruin us.

The thing is to find a pacy three ball playing defenders is impossible, i cannot see us being defensively sound with Kyle as CH and Ben and A.N other alongside as good a footballer Kyle is so do we put Downes in there as i think he could play there and cause a lot of damage coming out or persevere with Ben?
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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:39 - Apr 18 with 1002 viewsReslovenSwan1

Swansea were 4-1 up and needing to close out the game. Possession football has to be the way but also required is physicality and application when under stress.

On the bench there were no defenders. Bennett, Burns not picked Bidwell released Cooper on loan injured. Manning was on the bench but does not add size or strength for the aerial battle that was always coming. from Joao and co.

Bring Bennett / Burns on for the last crazy 10, surely? 6ft 4i n + and ready to answer all the physical questions. What else does the losing home team have left in their locker. I am not sure why Burns is at Swansea.
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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:43 - Apr 18 with 972 viewsSTID2017

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:36 - Apr 18 by KulusBeatFactory

The plastics always come out when we're on a run (agAinst bottom half teams)

Shambolic. 4-4 also a shambles.


Aye right you are.
Where have you been then ?

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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:44 - Apr 18 with 962 viewskrunchykarrot

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:39 - Apr 18 by ReslovenSwan1

Swansea were 4-1 up and needing to close out the game. Possession football has to be the way but also required is physicality and application when under stress.

On the bench there were no defenders. Bennett, Burns not picked Bidwell released Cooper on loan injured. Manning was on the bench but does not add size or strength for the aerial battle that was always coming. from Joao and co.

Bring Bennett / Burns on for the last crazy 10, surely? 6ft 4i n + and ready to answer all the physical questions. What else does the losing home team have left in their locker. I am not sure why Burns is at Swansea.
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Is the question i keep asking, Burns got taken off half time when i didnt think he was that bad and needs minutes as we have him next year i believe?
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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:46 - Apr 18 with 943 viewsSTID2017

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:39 - Apr 18 by ReslovenSwan1

Swansea were 4-1 up and needing to close out the game. Possession football has to be the way but also required is physicality and application when under stress.

On the bench there were no defenders. Bennett, Burns not picked Bidwell released Cooper on loan injured. Manning was on the bench but does not add size or strength for the aerial battle that was always coming. from Joao and co.

Bring Bennett / Burns on for the last crazy 10, surely? 6ft 4i n + and ready to answer all the physical questions. What else does the losing home team have left in their locker. I am not sure why Burns is at Swansea.
[Post edited 18 Apr 2022 17:40]


Totally agree with Burns point and as you say we should have closed the game down.
Fisher isn't very good is he ?

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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:46 - Apr 18 with 934 viewsunion_jack

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:38 - Apr 18 by swan65split

Agree, great effort to go 4 up, but then hey ho , comedy time again.

Need an experienced Captain in there to tighten them up, players at fault for this one sorry.

From one comedy show this after to Airplane tonight.


The players are going by the script, that’s the problem.

When in a lead and closing out a game, there must be a different plan that doesn’t involve our suicidal football. I just think Martin says play it the same way for 90+ and damn the consequences. That can’t work enough times to make us serious contenders.

It’s training ground stuff.

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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:49 - Apr 18 with 908 viewsSTID2017

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:46 - Apr 18 by union_jack

The players are going by the script, that’s the problem.

When in a lead and closing out a game, there must be a different plan that doesn’t involve our suicidal football. I just think Martin says play it the same way for 90+ and damn the consequences. That can’t work enough times to make us serious contenders.

It’s training ground stuff.


Surely the team should have played out the last few minutes on the halfway line and beyond ?
Professional players shouldn't have to be told how to run down the clock

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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:51 - Apr 18 with 895 viewsTreforys_Jack

Crazy periods of play happens now and again, we did it to Luton who are a pretty decent (if horrible) outfit, it's the alarmingly frequent erratic performances that are more of a concern for me. Gutted about the result, but 4 goals away from home is not to be sniffed at, just need a bit more maturity and ruthlessness in our play. Oh and drop the bloody keeper
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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:51 - Apr 18 with 893 viewskrunchykarrot

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:46 - Apr 18 by union_jack

The players are going by the script, that’s the problem.

When in a lead and closing out a game, there must be a different plan that doesn’t involve our suicidal football. I just think Martin says play it the same way for 90+ and damn the consequences. That can’t work enough times to make us serious contenders.

It’s training ground stuff.


He is correct though if you hang onto the ball they cant score, problem is teams have nothing to lose and throw everything at it. I would prefer it if there was a formation change and not three at the back which is asking for trouble.
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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:57 - Apr 18 with 856 viewsTreforys_Jack

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:51 - Apr 18 by krunchykarrot

He is correct though if you hang onto the ball they cant score, problem is teams have nothing to lose and throw everything at it. I would prefer it if there was a formation change and not three at the back which is asking for trouble.


Proper overlapping fullbacks and proper wingers for me please, not going to happen though.
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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:57 - Apr 18 with 856 viewsvetchonian

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:51 - Apr 18 by krunchykarrot

He is correct though if you hang onto the ball they cant score, problem is teams have nothing to lose and throw everything at it. I would prefer it if there was a formation change and not three at the back which is asking for trouble.


He changed it to 4 at the back when he brought Manning on

Lati went to right back and Manning Left back

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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:58 - Apr 18 with 847 viewsunion_jack

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:49 - Apr 18 by STID2017

Surely the team should have played out the last few minutes on the halfway line and beyond ?
Professional players shouldn't have to be told how to run down the clock


You’d think so but I’m not sure that’s Martin’s philosophy. Without being the proverbial fly on the dressing room wall we’ll probably never know, though he may hint at things in the presser.

It’s not just about what they do with the ball, it’s also about formation and I didn’t see anything change at 3-4. That said, my stream booted me out on too many occasions.

There needs to be set ups for different scenarios. I remember Rodgers used to say how they practiced playing 10 v 11 in training should a player get sent off. We need drills (horrible word) to be comfortable in any scenario.

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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 18:04 - Apr 18 with 813 viewsChief

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:49 - Apr 18 by STID2017

Surely the team should have played out the last few minutes on the halfway line and beyond ?
Professional players shouldn't have to be told how to run down the clock


We more or less did, I thought we'd weathered the storm. The only time they got near our box in the last 7/8mins was the lump forward that lead to their equaliser
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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 18:08 - Apr 18 with 787 viewsangryjack

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:29 - Apr 18 by STID2017

Took pride to score 4 goals ( and TBH Obafemi could have had a hat trick)
First time back and here you are with the negativity.
It's down to the team when they are 4-1 up to keep that lead.
Any side throws that lead away needs to look at themselves.
Of course you think it is all down to Martin


Of course it's down to Martin HD instructs us to be brave in times qe shouldn't be..he makes negative decisions when we on top..Martin to blame all way
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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 18:10 - Apr 18 with 764 viewsmax936

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 17:27 - Apr 18 by krunchykarrot

Yes he has BJ, better with his feet passing out which is what we get as a upgrade but lose out in the air.


Has we all know a keepers first job to stop the ball hitting the back of the net and for me that starts with a keeper commanding his area, 2 points dropped today when the 3 pts were in the bag, someone needs nailing to the door for losing a 3 goal lead.

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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 18:15 - Apr 18 with 733 viewsSTID2017

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 18:08 - Apr 18 by angryjack

Of course it's down to Martin HD instructs us to be brave in times qe shouldn't be..he makes negative decisions when we on top..Martin to blame all way


Not sure about him making negative decisions.
Obafemi had two chances to score.
Also he didn't instruct the players and Fisher to defend so woefully.
Presumably had we gone on to win, that would have been all down to Martin as well then ?
Nothing to do with brilliant individual goals by Piroe and Wolf, and a great team goal finished by Obafemi ?

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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 18:16 - Apr 18 with 725 viewsonehunglow

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It's really quite simple and I don't want to repeat myself but we are where we are.

We have no plan,no transition,no idea really.

We do not have a goalkeeper.Somebody has taken Fishers's identity and is an imposter. Why would any manager pay real money for that whom stood between the post today and last Saturday to effectivelty give the game away.It's not all Fisher's fault though his defenders are clearly terrified of him .The clean sheets he was disgracefully credited with were down to his defenders not him.

It is past a joke now but the fact he remains undroppable is real primary evidence of what is wrong.

Ince is a hard nosed man and would have scented a way back. Team could be 10-0 down against us and we would still be vulnerable.

This has been a season of waste ;of opportunity of talent ,of money ,of loans . It is simply disgusting and we have had our expectations lowered to fit this horror show.

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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 18:17 - Apr 18 with 724 viewsSTID2017

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 18:10 - Apr 18 by max936

Has we all know a keepers first job to stop the ball hitting the back of the net and for me that starts with a keeper commanding his area, 2 points dropped today when the 3 pts were in the bag, someone needs nailing to the door for losing a 3 goal lead.


Fisher doesn't inspire confidence as a keeper.
Not commanding enough and not a good enough shot stopper

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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 18:20 - Apr 18 with 716 viewsonehunglow

Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 18:17 - Apr 18 by STID2017

Fisher doesn't inspire confidence as a keeper.
Not commanding enough and not a good enough shot stopper


Every team needs a spine.
We do not have one
We do not have an inspirational captain and we do not have the basic ingredient of a competent keeper.

Fisher is as spineless as he is incompetent. He is with us for the length of his contract too as nobody will buy him. They are not that dumb.

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Reading v Swansea City : Sky Bet Championship 21/22 MATCHDAY THREAD on 18:22 - Apr 18 with 710 viewsshingle

Take Piroe and his goals out of this team and where would we be, to many are getting excited for my liking, i can not see him being here next season and unless we are lucky enough to find a replacement as good as him next season will be a struggle, no doubt the ones who believe in Martin will think otherwise but i think they are going to end up extremely disappointed, we also have to be mindful that any half decent offer for any of our better players will be snapped up by the yanks.
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