| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” 09:21 - Mar 16 with 22836 views | TK1 |
Saw this on the way to the game, Cifuentes describing how difficult the season's been, "not just the results", but "things the fans don't see" - particularly the last few weeks.
Interesting that he thinks this has been "by far" harder than taking over one of the worst teams I can remember last season.
Seems significant. I wonder what's been happening - and I wonder where that leaves him for next season.
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| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 17:58 - Mar 16 with 2837 views | TK1 |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 17:24 - Mar 16 by BrianMcCarthy |
Or maybe he just likes a whinge? Who knows?
Either way, not sure I like it when a manager says stuff like this. It could be construed as washing the club's dirty linen in public.
The point here is that we don't know what he is saying, why he is saying it, and if we did we would know if he was correct.
We only know what certain people tell us.
We'll know the truth in our family, but only in time. |
He doesn't like a whinge though, does he? We do know that, we have the evidence of almost all his interviews I can think of. He's been largely uncomplaining throughout his time here, despite all kinds of adversity. He never really makes excuses and his mentality is always really forward-facing and supportive of his players.
Here he is simply saying this has been by far the hardest season of his career - he'd know. And he adds that it's not just about results. Anybody who's watched us regularly this season knows there's something wrong at the club, at a sporting level. At the very least, this is arguably the least well-balanced squad we've had since being relegated a decade ago. And we know who always takes the credit publicly for every signing.
Fundamentally, I disagree. I want them to air their dirty laundry. This is our club. I want to know what's happening. Because they'll be gone soon enough and we'll be left with the mess once more, wondering how it's happened under noses again. | | | |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 18:10 - Mar 16 with 2755 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 17:58 - Mar 16 by TK1 |
He doesn't like a whinge though, does he? We do know that, we have the evidence of almost all his interviews I can think of. He's been largely uncomplaining throughout his time here, despite all kinds of adversity. He never really makes excuses and his mentality is always really forward-facing and supportive of his players.
Here he is simply saying this has been by far the hardest season of his career - he'd know. And he adds that it's not just about results. Anybody who's watched us regularly this season knows there's something wrong at the club, at a sporting level. At the very least, this is arguably the least well-balanced squad we've had since being relegated a decade ago. And we know who always takes the credit publicly for every signing.
Fundamentally, I disagree. I want them to air their dirty laundry. This is our club. I want to know what's happening. Because they'll be gone soon enough and we'll be left with the mess once more, wondering how it's happened under noses again. |
That's a great post, TK1.
I agree about the first paragraph, broadly at least. He has after all mentioned a few times that the club knows what he needs/wants etc.
I agree completely about the recruitment under Nourry. I think it's been shocking and have thought so since last Summer.
I do, disagree, about airing the dirty laundry. It never helps. Ever.
We always find out in the end, so no need to break the omerta mid-season (if, indeed, this is what he is doing). |  |
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| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 18:16 - Mar 16 with 2686 views | GaryHaddock |
Genuine question for those in the know, what are MC‘s gripes specifically? |  | | |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 19:11 - Mar 16 with 2491 views | Match82 |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 17:58 - Mar 16 by TK1 |
He doesn't like a whinge though, does he? We do know that, we have the evidence of almost all his interviews I can think of. He's been largely uncomplaining throughout his time here, despite all kinds of adversity. He never really makes excuses and his mentality is always really forward-facing and supportive of his players.
Here he is simply saying this has been by far the hardest season of his career - he'd know. And he adds that it's not just about results. Anybody who's watched us regularly this season knows there's something wrong at the club, at a sporting level. At the very least, this is arguably the least well-balanced squad we've had since being relegated a decade ago. And we know who always takes the credit publicly for every signing.
Fundamentally, I disagree. I want them to air their dirty laundry. This is our club. I want to know what's happening. Because they'll be gone soon enough and we'll be left with the mess once more, wondering how it's happened under noses again. |
The last para here, I can't wrap my head around a good answer. I want to know what's happening too. But if there's even a small chance that keeping it in house, with the fans in the dark, is going to help performances, recruitment, retention or morale in some way, I'm ok with that. But on the other hand it could do none of that and we're all frustrated and left looking for explanations for no reason.
Sadly we have no way of knowing which it is. I think this board ends up being split between those who trust that the people in charge have the best interests of the club at heart by keeping it quiet and those who think the people in charge are just looking not to have to deal with the headache of having to explain themselves to supporters. |  | | |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 19:16 - Mar 16 with 2474 views | Dorse |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 18:16 - Mar 16 by GaryHaddock |
Genuine question for those in the know, what are MC‘s gripes specifically? |
Paul Smyth never shares his Haribo Tangfastics.
Xavi Calm is, ironically, extremely agitated.
Lucas Andersen clogged the team shower with hair. |  |
| 'What do we want? We don't know! When do we want it? Now!' |
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| (No subject) on 19:22 - Mar 16 with 2439 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| (No subject) on 17:07 - Mar 16 by lassel |
Obviously I know it’s preaching to the choir to you as our learned Dear Leader, and it makes me sound like a know it all cnt by repeating it, but I’ve spent the past 12+ months trying to tell people how seriously unhappy Cifuentes is with things behind the scenes…
By this point, Cifuentes could celebrate every goal by turning and making a w@nker sign at Nourry in the directors box and certain people would tell you he was shouting ‘boo-urns’ |
Thanks for your insight again. |  | | |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 19:25 - Mar 16 with 2423 views | dmm |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 17:58 - Mar 16 by TK1 |
He doesn't like a whinge though, does he? We do know that, we have the evidence of almost all his interviews I can think of. He's been largely uncomplaining throughout his time here, despite all kinds of adversity. He never really makes excuses and his mentality is always really forward-facing and supportive of his players.
Here he is simply saying this has been by far the hardest season of his career - he'd know. And he adds that it's not just about results. Anybody who's watched us regularly this season knows there's something wrong at the club, at a sporting level. At the very least, this is arguably the least well-balanced squad we've had since being relegated a decade ago. And we know who always takes the credit publicly for every signing.
Fundamentally, I disagree. I want them to air their dirty laundry. This is our club. I want to know what's happening. Because they'll be gone soon enough and we'll be left with the mess once more, wondering how it's happened under noses again. |
On the recruitment issue, earlier in the season it was said that Nourry, Belk and Cifuentes were involved in signings. I agree the squad is unbalanced but I don't think that's solely down to Nourry, and I'm not a fan of his. |  | | |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 19:29 - Mar 16 with 2403 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 19:16 - Mar 16 by Dorse |
Paul Smyth never shares his Haribo Tangfastics.
Xavi Calm is, ironically, extremely agitated.
Lucas Andersen clogged the team shower with hair. |
This Haribo Tangfastics thing...that worries me. | |
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| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 19:30 - Mar 16 with 2390 views | daveB |
Marti could be talking about anything really from injuries to personal issues making it a hard year but it's looked all season like an uneasy relationship between him and Nourry. I'd personally be surprsied if he is still here next season |  | | |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 19:39 - Mar 16 with 2347 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 19:30 - Mar 16 by daveB |
Marti could be talking about anything really from injuries to personal issues making it a hard year but it's looked all season like an uneasy relationship between him and Nourry. I'd personally be surprsied if he is still here next season |
Agreed, it could be anything.
Agreed, I'd be surprised if he's here next season. | |
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| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 19:45 - Mar 16 with 2289 views | lassel |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 19:25 - Mar 16 by dmm |
On the recruitment issue, earlier in the season it was said that Nourry, Belk and Cifuentes were involved in signings. I agree the squad is unbalanced but I don't think that's solely down to Nourry, and I'm not a fan of his. |
It’s not solely down to Nourry, Belk had his part to play too.
Cifuentes had no involvement in transfers, he wasn’t even talking to Nourry for most of the summer. | | | |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 19:53 - Mar 16 with 2191 views | Gus_iom |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 18:16 - Mar 16 by GaryHaddock |
Genuine question for those in the know, what are MC‘s gripes specifically? |
MC Gripes - he was big on the school disco scene | | | |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 19:53 - Mar 16 with 2190 views | Rsole |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 18:16 - Mar 16 by GaryHaddock |
Genuine question for those in the know, what are MC‘s gripes specifically? |
One would hope it’s Cabernet Sauvignon, Pinot Noir and Nebbiolo rather than Moscatel. |  |
| Those possessed by devils, try and keep them under control a bit, can't you ?
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| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 19:57 - Mar 16 with 2147 views | Rsole |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 18:16 - Mar 16 by GaryHaddock |
Genuine question for those in the know, what are MC‘s gripes specifically? |
Not ITK but I’d hazard a guess that he’s being told who to play and what system to play them in, despite the players and system we had that produced results and got us out of trouble.
Throw in some budget constraints and out of contract issues that probably reduce motivation, it’s a tricky job to succeed in. | |
| Those possessed by devils, try and keep them under control a bit, can't you ?
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| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 20:02 - Mar 16 with 2094 views | baz_qpr |
tbh Unless we were getting promoted or playoffs I've never expected him to be here beyond this season anyway and I would suspect if he does and we do go well he will be poached anyway. Would also be the case if I was Dunne for example I would be waiting to see if Marti is staying before committing to a contract.
In terms of the comments they can mean anything, we know Smyth and Cook are still carrying injuries, he's got no forwards, no centre mids. When we have had a full squad we've done well. There could be issues with certain players behind the scenes that we will never know or will only come out in years to come |  | | |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 20:06 - Mar 16 with 2082 views | PunteR |
"By far..... By far "
Speaks volumes doesn't it.
He's a young manager though. |  |
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| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 20:07 - Mar 16 with 2073 views | Gus_iom |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 17:24 - Mar 16 by BrianMcCarthy |
Or maybe he just likes a whinge? Who knows?
Either way, not sure I like it when a manager says stuff like this. It could be construed as washing the club's dirty linen in public.
The point here is that we don't know what he is saying, why he is saying it, and if we did we would know if he was correct.
We only know what certain people tell us.
We'll know the truth in our family, but only in time. |
"There are known knowns. These are things that we know that we know. We also know there are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we know we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don't know that we don't know" | | | |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 20:13 - Mar 16 with 2041 views | dmm |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 19:45 - Mar 16 by lassel |
It’s not solely down to Nourry, Belk had his part to play too.
Cifuentes had no involvement in transfers, he wasn’t even talking to Nourry for most of the summer. |
Unless you verify your ITK comments, I will not take them seriously. | | | |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 20:14 - Mar 16 with 2038 views | GaryHaddock |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 19:53 - Mar 16 by Rsole |
One would hope it’s Cabernet Sauvignon, Pinot Noir and Nebbiolo rather than Moscatel. |
Underrated joke. | | | |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 20:15 - Mar 16 with 2028 views | danehoop |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 20:02 - Mar 16 by baz_qpr |
tbh Unless we were getting promoted or playoffs I've never expected him to be here beyond this season anyway and I would suspect if he does and we do go well he will be poached anyway. Would also be the case if I was Dunne for example I would be waiting to see if Marti is staying before committing to a contract.
In terms of the comments they can mean anything, we know Smyth and Cook are still carrying injuries, he's got no forwards, no centre mids. When we have had a full squad we've done well. There could be issues with certain players behind the scenes that we will never know or will only come out in years to come |
I think developing a point earlier, it might be around having to play loan signings a certain amount of time as part of loan deal. Just speculating, but that might be forcing to play a certain way/style/approach or pursue certain tactics which really go against where he'd like to be playing. Maybe that was how we were able to afford the loans that we got by agreeing a reduced fee in favour of guaranteed appearances. The idea potentially being we might secure more/higher quality loans in future as well. That might become frustrating as a manager, particularly facing so many likely departures in the summer that will leach experience, quality and presumably leadership qualities on and off the pitch. |  |
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| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 20:17 - Mar 16 with 2010 views | Superhoops2808 |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 20:13 - Mar 16 by dmm |
Unless you verify your ITK comments, I will not take them seriously. |
You will have a long wait |  | | |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 20:23 - Mar 16 with 1959 views | GaryHaddock |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 19:57 - Mar 16 by Rsole |
Not ITK but I’d hazard a guess that he’s being told who to play and what system to play them in, despite the players and system we had that produced results and got us out of trouble.
Throw in some budget constraints and out of contract issues that probably reduce motivation, it’s a tricky job to succeed in. |
I‘m so torn.
I don’t like Nourry, because of what he is and what’s he’s done, but why did Marti and Calm sign a new contact if things are so bad?
Maybe the issues have started since then?
Those comments could go either way. I hope he’s talking about the canteen food. | | | |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 20:46 - Mar 16 with 1853 views | dm97 |
Christ alive lads, he could literally be referring to anything. It’s almost like we’re lower mid table heading towards the end of the season and need something to panic about.
Can we just win a couple games to get over the line first and do the whole ITK/MC leaving/CN is a dictator threads in May |  | | |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 21:13 - Mar 16 with 1764 views | KensalT |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 17:58 - Mar 16 by TK1 |
He doesn't like a whinge though, does he? We do know that, we have the evidence of almost all his interviews I can think of. He's been largely uncomplaining throughout his time here, despite all kinds of adversity. He never really makes excuses and his mentality is always really forward-facing and supportive of his players.
Here he is simply saying this has been by far the hardest season of his career - he'd know. And he adds that it's not just about results. Anybody who's watched us regularly this season knows there's something wrong at the club, at a sporting level. At the very least, this is arguably the least well-balanced squad we've had since being relegated a decade ago. And we know who always takes the credit publicly for every signing.
Fundamentally, I disagree. I want them to air their dirty laundry. This is our club. I want to know what's happening. Because they'll be gone soon enough and we'll be left with the mess once more, wondering how it's happened under noses again. |
"Fundamentally, I disagree. I want them to air their dirty laundry. This is our club. I want to know what's happening. Because they'll be gone soon enough and we'll be left with the mess once more, wondering how it's happened under noses again."
Be careful what you wish for.
Marti has only stayed in one job longer than he has been with us.
https://uk.soccerway.com/coaches/marti-cifuentes/330191/
Maybe he suffers from the 18-month itch. | | | |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 21:16 - Mar 16 with 1747 views | KensalT |
| "By far the most challenging season of my career!” on 19:45 - Mar 16 by lassel |
It’s not solely down to Nourry, Belk had his part to play too.
Cifuentes had no involvement in transfers, he wasn’t even talking to Nourry for most of the summer. |
"he wasn’t even talking to Nourry for most of the summer."
Really?
So how did they negotiate the contract extension announced last September?
https://www.qpr.co.uk/news/2024/september/30/cifuentes-calm-new-contracts/
Smoke signals?
Pigeon post?
Through the medium of dance!? | | | |
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