| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:03 - Feb 28 with 1983 views | monmouth |
I'm finding that tough to take.
1-0 up after 18 mins and playing well. Why not just keep playing. Why not? WHY NOT?
I'm sure I'm overreacting, but if that's what were going to get we might as well have saved ourselves a few bob and kept Monk and the boys....or Curt. We were unlucky at ManC and ManU. we were not in the least bit unlucky today, more lucky it was only 2-1 in the end. |  |
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| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:04 - Feb 28 with 1960 views | blaine_scfc |
I'll be absolutely hammered for this, but Guidolin was a shocker of a decision by the board yet again. I really don't see what he brings which Curt didn't. Yes we bought in a striker, but what's the point playing this way, Harry Kane could have been on our side today and wouldn't have got a touch.
He's made no impact to the playing style, we beat Everton but let's be honest they should have put a few more on us. West Brom and Palace we did exactly the same, went a goal up and shut up shop thinking we were good enough to hold out sides.
Going down. Simple as that. |  | | |
| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:04 - Feb 28 with 1952 views | phact0rri |
Guess its easy to be so negative when we've led 75% of a match by a league champion contender. Thought we looked good coming in away from a club in good form. Lots to take away from this.
but to say our lads played horribly is being a bit ungenerous. And I still feel we have the the will to get something out of Wednesday. |  |
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| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:07 - Feb 28 with 1868 views | raynor94 |
| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:04 - Feb 28 by blaine_scfc |
I'll be absolutely hammered for this, but Guidolin was a shocker of a decision by the board yet again. I really don't see what he brings which Curt didn't. Yes we bought in a striker, but what's the point playing this way, Harry Kane could have been on our side today and wouldn't have got a touch.
He's made no impact to the playing style, we beat Everton but let's be honest they should have put a few more on us. West Brom and Palace we did exactly the same, went a goal up and shut up shop thinking we were good enough to hold out sides.
Going down. Simple as that. |
Let's wait and see what happens next month before you condemn us to relegation |  |
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| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:07 - Feb 28 with 1867 views | magicdaps10 |
| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:03 - Feb 28 by Private_Partz |
I agree with that but it would be foolish have gone at Spurs today in view of their current form. We played it just about right and we will have the same again on Wednesday. It is the home games that worry me. We must be more adventurous there.
I think caution has to be the case away and against the top teams but only because we are in the mess we are in now. We can revert to plan A once we are safe...... If that time ever comes.
Anyway . Off for a good cry now.. |
100% agree about the home games.
Think we will do exactly the same with the home games, hope to get the goal and hold the lead..........................this will get us relegated.
Every game should be seen as a cup game now and we should go out and play to win and score more than one goal. |  |
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| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:07 - Feb 28 with 1853 views | tomdickharry |
That was a shambolic mess,the sole reason it was 2-1 was that Spurs missed chance after chance after chance after chance after chance and Fabianski was excellent,why play defensive football (or try to) when we are not equipped with the players to do it.As an aside was Ki playing? |  | | |
| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:08 - Feb 28 with 1826 views | Starsky |
| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:03 - Feb 28 by Private_Partz |
I agree with that but it would be foolish have gone at Spurs today in view of their current form. We played it just about right and we will have the same again on Wednesday. It is the home games that worry me. We must be more adventurous there.
I think caution has to be the case away and against the top teams but only because we are in the mess we are in now. We can revert to plan A once we are safe...... If that time ever comes.
Anyway . Off for a good cry now.. |
Totally disagree if you think that's how we should set up against any side.
Remember how Leicester battled their way out of the relegation places last season?
If this is the future then I despair |  |
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| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:10 - Feb 28 with 1763 views | A_Fans_Dad |
Fer did more in 15 minutes than Ki did in 83.
Shows why we should NOT be playing Ki.
As for the result, it was inevitable once we started all out defending.
Putting barrow on with 5 minutes to go was really going to make a difference?
Gomis yet again does nothing but lose the ball in their Penalty Area.
Very poor Tactics, Italian we are not. | | | |
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| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:10 - Feb 28 with 1741 views | Dr_Winston |
| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:08 - Feb 28 by Starsky |
Totally disagree if you think that's how we should set up against any side.
Remember how Leicester battled their way out of the relegation places last season?
If this is the future then I despair |
Yup.
FG's track record suggests he likes his sides to be positive, so you have to wonder why he's so steadfastly refused to do the same with us so far.
For the best part of a decade we've achieved miracles by playing attacking football that made extensive use of pace and width. It's not really a coincidence that the rot started setting in when we tried to change that. |  |
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| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:11 - Feb 28 with 1739 views | Borojack |
| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:04 - Feb 28 by blaine_scfc |
I'll be absolutely hammered for this, but Guidolin was a shocker of a decision by the board yet again. I really don't see what he brings which Curt didn't. Yes we bought in a striker, but what's the point playing this way, Harry Kane could have been on our side today and wouldn't have got a touch.
He's made no impact to the playing style, we beat Everton but let's be honest they should have put a few more on us. West Brom and Palace we did exactly the same, went a goal up and shut up shop thinking we were good enough to hold out sides.
Going down. Simple as that. |
Thats the spirit Spurs are 2nd in the league most goals scored.
Have you ever posted anything positive or complimentary just curious. |  |
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| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:11 - Feb 28 with 1721 views | perchrockjack |
Ki possibly our main weak line.no shot, tackle, strength or simple guts really.
Fer looked interesting to me and why not play him before ki.
Palls hi is a good buy and I hope we don't destroy him.
Guidelin ? I d have gone with Pearson or poyet and have us front up | |
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| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:12 - Feb 28 with 1710 views | Starsky |
| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:04 - Feb 28 by phact0rri |
Guess its easy to be so negative when we've led 75% of a match by a league champion contender. Thought we looked good coming in away from a club in good form. Lots to take away from this.
but to say our lads played horribly is being a bit ungenerous. And I still feel we have the the will to get something out of Wednesday. |
10 men behind the ball just hoofing it away?
If I were in charge of a team playing Swansea City then I'd tell them to gift Swansea an early goal. | |
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| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:14 - Feb 28 with 1667 views | AnotherJohn |
What I find depressing is that teams that escape relegation tend to get some surprise results against the big boys, and I expect our rivals to do that. Today we were facing a team who had played in Europe during the week, whose top scorer had a broken nose, and who must have been under a lot of pressure given their league position. We had two great chances early on and took one. But then with a golden opportunity opening up, we go negative and get nothing. I'd be amazed if Arsenal give us anything like the same opportunity. | | | |
| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:15 - Feb 28 with 1640 views | monmouth |
| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:08 - Feb 28 by Starsky |
Totally disagree if you think that's how we should set up against any side.
Remember how Leicester battled their way out of the relegation places last season?
If this is the future then I despair |
I didn't expect anything today, but I actually feel physically sick at having to endure the same old crap with the same old end result after such a promising start. What's the point in being in this league at all if we aren't going to try and impose ourselves on it. If we play like that against Norwich and Bournemouth we will lose both.
If we play all game like we played the first 20 minutes today we will win both games. Same players, same shape, but a light years difference in result depending on what they are told to do. That's what's hurting me. When we gave them a game, we gave them a game....then we decided to be pussies instead and hand them the game on a plate.
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| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:15 - Feb 28 with 1629 views | phact0rri |
| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:10 - Feb 28 by Dr_Winston |
Yup.
FG's track record suggests he likes his sides to be positive, so you have to wonder why he's so steadfastly refused to do the same with us so far.
For the best part of a decade we've achieved miracles by playing attacking football that made extensive use of pace and width. It's not really a coincidence that the rot started setting in when we tried to change that. |
If anyone thinks he's had the chance to really impart his own signature on the side would be fooling themselves. he can't really change to much... he can only use what he has available. I imagine if we stay up and Franco is here next season, that we'll see more of his signature. | |
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| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:16 - Feb 28 with 1609 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:15 - Feb 28 by monmouth |
I didn't expect anything today, but I actually feel physically sick at having to endure the same old crap with the same old end result after such a promising start. What's the point in being in this league at all if we aren't going to try and impose ourselves on it. If we play like that against Norwich and Bournemouth we will lose both.
If we play all game like we played the first 20 minutes today we will win both games. Same players, same shape, but a light years difference in result depending on what they are told to do. That's what's hurting me. When we gave them a game, we gave them a game....then we decided to be pussies instead and hand them the game on a plate.
Annoyed. |
Isn't it the "Italian" way? | | | |
| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:17 - Feb 28 with 1600 views | Dr_Winston |
| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:15 - Feb 28 by phact0rri |
If anyone thinks he's had the chance to really impart his own signature on the side would be fooling themselves. he can't really change to much... he can only use what he has available. I imagine if we stay up and Franco is here next season, that we'll see more of his signature. |
Absolutely, although what he's got available is capable of putting up more of a fight on the front foot than we've generally seen. | |
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| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:17 - Feb 28 with 1592 views | Starsky |
| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:15 - Feb 28 by phact0rri |
If anyone thinks he's had the chance to really impart his own signature on the side would be fooling themselves. he can't really change to much... he can only use what he has available. I imagine if we stay up and Franco is here next season, that we'll see more of his signature. |
I would imagine he can tell them to push forward and not play so deep.
That would be a start | |
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| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:17 - Feb 28 with 1591 views | airedale |
I reckon we'll stay up and, about next September, we'll play Man City at home and beat them and say, Welcome to the Premier League Pep, howdya like them apples! |  | | |
| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:21 - Feb 28 with 1529 views | airedale |
Wonder what the Just Backs will have to say? | | | |
| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:24 - Feb 28 with 1486 views | Pacemaker |
Two seasons ago whilst Laudrup was still in charge I went up to WHL and saw us attempt to hold out for 90 mins and lose, we made no attempt at all yo go forward in that game. I saw many games such as Arsenal, Chelsea away where we tried and failed, on the odd occasion such as the Arsenal win we had clung on for 75-80 mins and Dyer did a good job of hassling Jenkinson which led to a goal and ultimately the win by hitting them on the counter.
I don't think we are playing well and I don't get the tactics or set up but those claiming this is something new have short memories, it was very few games where we went at sides from the off. We always claimed it was tactical genius when it worked. [Post edited 28 Feb 2016 16:25]
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| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:26 - Feb 28 with 1441 views | Darran |
| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:24 - Feb 28 by Pacemaker |
Two seasons ago whilst Laudrup was still in charge I went up to WHL and saw us attempt to hold out for 90 mins and lose, we made no attempt at all yo go forward in that game. I saw many games such as Arsenal, Chelsea away where we tried and failed, on the odd occasion such as the Arsenal win we had clung on for 75-80 mins and Dyer did a good job of hassling Jenkinson which led to a goal and ultimately the win by hitting them on the counter.
I don't think we are playing well and I don't get the tactics or set up but those claiming this is something new have short memories, it was very few games where we went at sides from the off. We always claimed it was tactical genius when it worked. [Post edited 28 Feb 2016 16:25]
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We couldn't have played more negative when we beat Chelsea 2-0 in the semis of league cup. |  |
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| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:27 - Feb 28 with 1422 views | Jackanapes |
| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:24 - Feb 28 by Pacemaker |
Two seasons ago whilst Laudrup was still in charge I went up to WHL and saw us attempt to hold out for 90 mins and lose, we made no attempt at all yo go forward in that game. I saw many games such as Arsenal, Chelsea away where we tried and failed, on the odd occasion such as the Arsenal win we had clung on for 75-80 mins and Dyer did a good job of hassling Jenkinson which led to a goal and ultimately the win by hitting them on the counter.
I don't think we are playing well and I don't get the tactics or set up but those claiming this is something new have short memories, it was very few games where we went at sides from the off. We always claimed it was tactical genius when it worked. [Post edited 28 Feb 2016 16:25]
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And its not like we ever get anything at Spurs. I mean we scored and could have had a couple more. As gutted as I am, that was actually a decent showing for half an hour. Whats sad is the lack of fight in too many of our players. |  |
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| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:28 - Feb 28 with 1413 views | tzlewis |
I was fearing the worst before the game as I thought we might be on the end of a hiding so I guess we did better than I thought we might. There are positives- We played reasonably well for long periods and managed to keep one of the league's best attacks at bay for 70 minutes (albeit slightly fortuitously at times!).
However, I can't help but feel a bit disappointed. I agree that the tactics were poor today and it has probably cost us getting something from the game. I actually don't mind us trying to park the bus and making it difficult for Spurs to break us down but the problem is that there is never an out-ball or a pacy player to lead a counter attack. As a result we are constantly under pressure (Spurs had 34 shots on goal) and our defence began to tire badly. I don't understand why we don't play Montero and/or Barrow who would at least give us more of a chance of scoring with a pacy counter-attack like Leicester do. | | | |
| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:29 - Feb 28 with 1386 views | Starsky |
| The Official Tottenham Hotspur vs Swansea City Matchday Thread! on 16:28 - Feb 28 by tzlewis |
I was fearing the worst before the game as I thought we might be on the end of a hiding so I guess we did better than I thought we might. There are positives- We played reasonably well for long periods and managed to keep one of the league's best attacks at bay for 70 minutes (albeit slightly fortuitously at times!).
However, I can't help but feel a bit disappointed. I agree that the tactics were poor today and it has probably cost us getting something from the game. I actually don't mind us trying to park the bus and making it difficult for Spurs to break us down but the problem is that there is never an out-ball or a pacy player to lead a counter attack. As a result we are constantly under pressure (Spurs had 34 shots on goal) and our defence began to tire badly. I don't understand why we don't play Montero and/or Barrow who would at least give us more of a chance of scoring with a pacy counter-attack like Leicester do. |
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