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Points,required for safety 12:47 - Mar 25 with 9710 viewsnumptydumpty

Five for me gets us to 50 points

A draw away at Stoke and home win against Cardiff in next two fixtures, could well be enough, given they are matches against clubs in greater danger than ourselves.

Eight games left...

What do others feel is required??
[Post edited 25 Mar 12:48]

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Points,required for safety on 14:45 - Mar 26 with 2236 viewsTheChef

Points,required for safety on 14:23 - Mar 26 by Northernr

Speaking more generally, some really interesting fixture combinations coming up down there.

Derby finish the season with Luton H, Hull A, Stoke H.

Stoke play us, Preston, Luton and Cardiff in their next four games and go to Derby on the last day.

In their next six games Cardiff have QPR A, Preston A, Stoke H, Oxford H.

Oxford have a dreadful run in - Boro, Sheff Utd, Leeds and Sunderland all still to play.

Luton's next three away games are Hull, Derby and Stoke.


Not that I'm too concerned but that's fairly reassuring.

Would take something spectacular for us to get dragged into the bottom three.

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Points,required for safety on 14:49 - Mar 26 with 2221 viewsted_hendrix

Never In a 100 Years will we be relegated this season.

My Father had a profound influence on me, he was a lunatic.

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Points,required for safety on 15:45 - Mar 26 with 2105 viewsstowmarketrange

Points,required for safety on 14:23 - Mar 26 by Northernr

Speaking more generally, some really interesting fixture combinations coming up down there.

Derby finish the season with Luton H, Hull A, Stoke H.

Stoke play us, Preston, Luton and Cardiff in their next four games and go to Derby on the last day.

In their next six games Cardiff have QPR A, Preston A, Stoke H, Oxford H.

Oxford have a dreadful run in - Boro, Sheff Utd, Leeds and Sunderland all still to play.

Luton's next three away games are Hull, Derby and Stoke.


But a few of those teams in trouble have to play us though.1 more win should see us safe,but I don’t know who it might be against though.
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Points,required for safety on 16:09 - Mar 26 with 2059 viewsDorse

Points,required for safety on 14:49 - Mar 26 by ted_hendrix

Never In a 100 Years will we be relegated this season.


You've done it now...


'What do we want? We don't know! When do we want it? Now!'

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Points,required for safety on 16:09 - Mar 26 with 2059 viewsJuzzie

I used this link previously supplied; https://www.worldfootball.net/table_calculator/eng-championship/

I put every QPR game down as a loss and as realistic as I could for all the others (of course, football isn't like that and there will be surprises) and we ended up 21st.

The fact that a lot of the teams at the bottom are all playing each other really helps.


edit: I then went back and amended the QPR games (leaving the others as is) with what I think could be realistic results and we ended up ....... you guessed it....16th!







[Post edited 26 Mar 16:23]
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Points,required for safety on 16:12 - Mar 26 with 2036 viewskensalriser

Points,required for safety on 14:49 - Mar 26 by ted_hendrix

Never In a 100 Years will we be relegated this season.


That's a really mind-boggling temporal paradox you've given us there Ted. Because we only have one chance at going down this year, rendering the other 99 years moot.

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Points,required for safety on 16:26 - Mar 26 with 1960 viewsLblock

I remember that year when in March I was told to get the plastic bed sheets out as there was absolutely no chance we'd be going down and it would take a run of mental results for that to happen.

We stayed up by, I think, two points so it didn't.......... but by Christ Warbs and the boys took it to the wire.

Our list of absents from hereon in for the run in looks like an episode of M*A*S*H and it's that which concerns me the most.
I'd wet myself (again) but due to laughter should Celar appear from nowhere and score a couple of winners for us. He's be properly ramming my words down my throat but I can't see it.

Lose on Saturday and even the most optimistic must surely start to wonder........

Cherish and enjoy life.... this ain't no dress rehearsal

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Points,required for safety on 16:32 - Mar 26 with 1937 viewsDorse

Points,required for safety on 16:26 - Mar 26 by Lblock

I remember that year when in March I was told to get the plastic bed sheets out as there was absolutely no chance we'd be going down and it would take a run of mental results for that to happen.

We stayed up by, I think, two points so it didn't.......... but by Christ Warbs and the boys took it to the wire.

Our list of absents from hereon in for the run in looks like an episode of M*A*S*H and it's that which concerns me the most.
I'd wet myself (again) but due to laughter should Celar appear from nowhere and score a couple of winners for us. He's be properly ramming my words down my throat but I can't see it.

Lose on Saturday and even the most optimistic must surely start to wonder........



'What do we want? We don't know! When do we want it? Now!'

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Points,required for safety on 16:59 - Mar 26 with 1849 viewsdaveB

Points,required for safety on 12:28 - Mar 26 by kensalriser

And they're off! The annual bedwetting thread is here. It must be spring.

Did you know our form over the last six is the the equal worst (with Oxford) in the division?


In fairness to the bed wetters there is a theme at QPR of when we get to relative comfort and start dreaming of the playoffs we fall off a cliff

We did it under Holloway in both 16/17 (5-1 win v Rotherham followed by needing to win last home game to stay up) and 17/18 (Playoffs at Hallowen, just outsdie relegation zone by Christmas)

Under McClaren in 18/19 - just outside playoffs going into February, struggling to stay up by the end of March

In the covid season went from playoff push before break to losing every game and looking over our shoulders by the end.

21/22 went from 4th in March to losing every week and struggling to finish in the top half

22/23 went fropm top of the league to being very lucky to stay up

So we have form for this and and when you have a run like we've started since the Derby game people are not wrong to be slightly concerned that it's going to happen again
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Points,required for safety on 18:09 - Mar 26 with 1743 viewsE15Hoop

Points,required for safety on 16:59 - Mar 26 by daveB

In fairness to the bed wetters there is a theme at QPR of when we get to relative comfort and start dreaming of the playoffs we fall off a cliff

We did it under Holloway in both 16/17 (5-1 win v Rotherham followed by needing to win last home game to stay up) and 17/18 (Playoffs at Hallowen, just outsdie relegation zone by Christmas)

Under McClaren in 18/19 - just outside playoffs going into February, struggling to stay up by the end of March

In the covid season went from playoff push before break to losing every game and looking over our shoulders by the end.

21/22 went from 4th in March to losing every week and struggling to finish in the top half

22/23 went fropm top of the league to being very lucky to stay up

So we have form for this and and when you have a run like we've started since the Derby game people are not wrong to be slightly concerned that it's going to happen again


On a similar theme but maybe mildly more reassuring is the fact that we're only 3 wins off 54 points.

I mention this, because most of you will remember that ridulous season- 2012/13 - when Peterborough got relegated on 54 points, and Birmingham finished 12th on 61 points.

I can't see a world in which this divison gets that concertinad again this season, even though I know all the bottom teams have started to pick up points just in time for us to play them all. I think even we can't f*ck this one up, though I do take your point that we might decide to give it a good try just for sh*ts and giggles as Sir Clive of this parish would say.
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Points,required for safety on 19:08 - Mar 26 with 1641 viewsNorthernr

Points,required for safety on 18:09 - Mar 26 by E15Hoop

On a similar theme but maybe mildly more reassuring is the fact that we're only 3 wins off 54 points.

I mention this, because most of you will remember that ridulous season- 2012/13 - when Peterborough got relegated on 54 points, and Birmingham finished 12th on 61 points.

I can't see a world in which this divison gets that concertinad again this season, even though I know all the bottom teams have started to pick up points just in time for us to play them all. I think even we can't f*ck this one up, though I do take your point that we might decide to give it a good try just for sh*ts and giggles as Sir Clive of this parish would say.


For someone to get relegated on 54 points this year is going to require a lot of Derby, Cardiff and Stoke types to suddenly win six or seven of their remaining eight games while simultaneously playing each other.
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Points,required for safety on 19:13 - Mar 26 with 1617 viewsNorthantsHoop

I am hoping we come back from the international break like we did in November and get the points rolling again.
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Points,required for safety on 19:13 - Mar 26 with 1618 viewskensalriser

Points,required for safety on 19:08 - Mar 26 by Northernr

For someone to get relegated on 54 points this year is going to require a lot of Derby, Cardiff and Stoke types to suddenly win six or seven of their remaining eight games while simultaneously playing each other.


OK, then, so we need 55.

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Points,required for safety on 19:42 - Mar 26 with 1576 viewsdm97

Points,required for safety on 19:08 - Mar 26 by Northernr

For someone to get relegated on 54 points this year is going to require a lot of Derby, Cardiff and Stoke types to suddenly win six or seven of their remaining eight games while simultaneously playing each other.


Without wanting to be all data, stats, and dickheady about it - look at the top 4 in that season and compare it to now. Points distribution is more relevant to these conversations than points totals.
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Points,required for safety on 21:18 - Mar 26 with 1461 viewsdaveB

Points,required for safety on 18:09 - Mar 26 by E15Hoop

On a similar theme but maybe mildly more reassuring is the fact that we're only 3 wins off 54 points.

I mention this, because most of you will remember that ridulous season- 2012/13 - when Peterborough got relegated on 54 points, and Birmingham finished 12th on 61 points.

I can't see a world in which this divison gets that concertinad again this season, even though I know all the bottom teams have started to pick up points just in time for us to play them all. I think even we can't f*ck this one up, though I do take your point that we might decide to give it a good try just for sh*ts and giggles as Sir Clive of this parish would say.


We need to get those 3 wins though, can easily see a scenario where Cardiff beat Sheff Wed at home this week, we lose to Stoke and we face the prospect of them being level on points with us if they beat us next week.

It won't take much to drop us right in it just as it won't take much to get us out of it if we win at the weekend
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Points,required for safety on 21:47 - Mar 26 with 1421 viewsCamberleyR

Points,required for safety on 16:26 - Mar 26 by Lblock

I remember that year when in March I was told to get the plastic bed sheets out as there was absolutely no chance we'd be going down and it would take a run of mental results for that to happen.

We stayed up by, I think, two points so it didn't.......... but by Christ Warbs and the boys took it to the wire.

Our list of absents from hereon in for the run in looks like an episode of M*A*S*H and it's that which concerns me the most.
I'd wet myself (again) but due to laughter should Celar appear from nowhere and score a couple of winners for us. He's be properly ramming my words down my throat but I can't see it.

Lose on Saturday and even the most optimistic must surely start to wonder........


You're thinking of the PBBC/Critchley/Ainsworth season. In three seasons, 13th was the lowest we finished under Warbs, in his first season.

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Points,required for safety on 22:22 - Mar 26 with 1370 viewsGaryHaddock

Points,required for safety on 16:26 - Mar 26 by Lblock

I remember that year when in March I was told to get the plastic bed sheets out as there was absolutely no chance we'd be going down and it would take a run of mental results for that to happen.

We stayed up by, I think, two points so it didn't.......... but by Christ Warbs and the boys took it to the wire.

Our list of absents from hereon in for the run in looks like an episode of M*A*S*H and it's that which concerns me the most.
I'd wet myself (again) but due to laughter should Celar appear from nowhere and score a couple of winners for us. He's be properly ramming my words down my throat but I can't see it.

Lose on Saturday and even the most optimistic must surely start to wonder........


If you say it every year then you’ll be right eventually.
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Points,required for safety on 22:43 - Mar 26 with 1335 viewsLblock

Points,required for safety on 22:22 - Mar 26 by GaryHaddock

If you say it every year then you’ll be right eventually.


Funnily enough I think one of the close calls was as the man said above.
We were top six in January and even I said “I think we’re safe”

I simply cannot believe how often this club circles the drain.
I am absolutely mystified as to how we are, again, under Marti who is the finest Manager we’ve had in a decade.

Why the fcuk do they do it to us all the bloody time?

Cherish and enjoy life.... this ain't no dress rehearsal

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Points,required for safety on 08:42 - Mar 27 with 1146 viewsenfieldargh

Points,required for safety on 22:43 - Mar 26 by Lblock

Funnily enough I think one of the close calls was as the man said above.
We were top six in January and even I said “I think we’re safe”

I simply cannot believe how often this club circles the drain.
I am absolutely mystified as to how we are, again, under Marti who is the finest Manager we’ve had in a decade.

Why the fcuk do they do it to us all the bloody time?


'Why the fcuk do they do it to us all the bloody time? '

the THEY are more often than not a completely different THEY each season.

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Points,required for safety on 08:55 - Mar 27 with 1129 viewsngbqpr

4 points or above from the next 3 games and we can all relax.

2 or less and we have a problem.

Stating the bleedin' obvious, I know...but 3 in a row against teams below us whose recent form is as bad or nearly as bad as ours has been really should be enough for the players to get suitably fired up (especially with some post-Leeds confidence).

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Points,required for safety on 09:09 - Mar 27 with 1085 viewsTheChef

Points,required for safety on 08:42 - Mar 27 by enfieldargh

'Why the fcuk do they do it to us all the bloody time? '

the THEY are more often than not a completely different THEY each season.


That's what is so remarkable, how different sets of players can churn out similar crappy results across several seasons.

The QPR dna clearly is strong!

I don't know how Warnock briefly reversed that, but it seems the juju spells he learnt in West Africa did work for a time. Well, that and Mick Jones just shouting at people.

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Points,required for safety on 10:22 - Mar 27 with 971 viewsR_from_afar

Points,required for safety on 22:43 - Mar 26 by Lblock

Funnily enough I think one of the close calls was as the man said above.
We were top six in January and even I said “I think we’re safe”

I simply cannot believe how often this club circles the drain.
I am absolutely mystified as to how we are, again, under Marti who is the finest Manager we’ve had in a decade.

Why the fcuk do they do it to us all the bloody time?


"I simply cannot believe how often this club circles the drain".

Indeed, and as we have seen over the years, a lot of teams which do that in the Championship eventually go down and can take a long time to come back up, if they ever do.

In addition, I can't stop thinking about the time a Serie A team hovered above the relegation zone all season, without ever dropping into it, only to get relegated on the final day.

As a club, we never seen far away from an almighty crisis, too.

Then there's the fact that a lot of players won't even be here next season. What happens if they start 'phoning it in en masse?

I think we have a 95% chance of staying up, but this is Rangers we're talking about, so I am very nervous.

"Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1."

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Points,required for safety on 10:24 - Mar 27 with 965 viewsloftus77

Points,required for safety on 14:49 - Mar 26 by ted_hendrix

Never In a 100 Years will we be relegated this season.


Gulp...
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Points,required for safety on 11:26 - Mar 27 with 856 viewsKensalT

Points,required for safety on 10:22 - Mar 27 by R_from_afar

"I simply cannot believe how often this club circles the drain".

Indeed, and as we have seen over the years, a lot of teams which do that in the Championship eventually go down and can take a long time to come back up, if they ever do.

In addition, I can't stop thinking about the time a Serie A team hovered above the relegation zone all season, without ever dropping into it, only to get relegated on the final day.

As a club, we never seen far away from an almighty crisis, too.

Then there's the fact that a lot of players won't even be here next season. What happens if they start 'phoning it in en masse?

I think we have a 95% chance of staying up, but this is Rangers we're talking about, so I am very nervous.


"I think we have a 95% chance of staying up, but this is Rangers we're talking about, so I am very nervous."

I would say I'm slightly nervous rather than very nervous.

Strange to think that just a few games ago we were talking about the playoffs.

It's a crazy league this one.
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Points,required for safety on 11:37 - Mar 27 with 841 viewsTheChef

Points,required for safety on 10:22 - Mar 27 by R_from_afar

"I simply cannot believe how often this club circles the drain".

Indeed, and as we have seen over the years, a lot of teams which do that in the Championship eventually go down and can take a long time to come back up, if they ever do.

In addition, I can't stop thinking about the time a Serie A team hovered above the relegation zone all season, without ever dropping into it, only to get relegated on the final day.

As a club, we never seen far away from an almighty crisis, too.

Then there's the fact that a lot of players won't even be here next season. What happens if they start 'phoning it in en masse?

I think we have a 95% chance of staying up, but this is Rangers we're talking about, so I am very nervous.


Well I've already written off the Stoke game because a) it's away and b) we're always terrible first game back after an international break.

Hope we can something from the two games after that.

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