| Harvey Vale 01:28 - Mar 14 with 26775 views | aston_hoop |
Apologies not sure if it's been mentioned anywhere, been away a few days, but he's switched nationality to represent Ireland. |  |
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| Harvey Vale on 00:11 - Apr 23 with 1303 views | Myke |
No coincidence that Vale’s form peaked in and around his Ireland call -up/ debut. Once the excitement has died down from that (and the disappointing outcome) his levels have dropped to pre-international standards. |  | | |
| Harvey Vale on 06:04 - Apr 23 with 1144 views | Rsole |
| Harvey Vale on 22:09 - Apr 22 by Wegerles_Stairs |
Yes, got to agree. We talk about players being inconsistent but if I were playing for us last night, I'm not sure I'd know what we were meant to be doing. |
I know we see a lot of AI Slop these days but we sometimes generate pure QPR Slop too….. |  |
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| Harvey Vale on 21:19 - Nov 7 with 0 views | ChrisNW6 |
Harvey Vale seems to be the newest social media 'Boo Boy' alongside Varane.
Vale has been fit and available most of the season. He is pretty versatile when asked to play in different positions. When we have an injury hit squad, not sure why he is getting singled out so much (a bit on here, but far worse on the socials). I know he's not impacting games as much we hoped he could with goals, but his contributions are pretty consistent with some nice link up when moving the ball forward. Some of which seems to go unnoticed, with some fans looking for negatives.
Varane grew into the game again today and was unlucky not to score. | | | |
| Harvey Vale on 21:30 - Nov 7 with 0 views | ChrisNW6 |
Spackman Just seen the other Vale thread | | | |
| Harvey Vale on 23:37 - Nov 7 with 0 views | Stanisgod |
| Harvey Vale on 21:19 - Nov 7 by ChrisNW6 |
Harvey Vale seems to be the newest social media 'Boo Boy' alongside Varane.
Vale has been fit and available most of the season. He is pretty versatile when asked to play in different positions. When we have an injury hit squad, not sure why he is getting singled out so much (a bit on here, but far worse on the socials). I know he's not impacting games as much we hoped he could with goals, but his contributions are pretty consistent with some nice link up when moving the ball forward. Some of which seems to go unnoticed, with some fans looking for negatives.
Varane grew into the game again today and was unlucky not to score. |
Watched Varane today specifically for about 5 min second half. Spent most of the time just standing in a three metre circle watching proceedings, no move into space, no taking someone away, no anticipation, nothing. Sorry but the most frustrating player I think I've seen in nearly 60 years. |  |
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| Harvey Vale on 23:55 - Nov 7 with 0 views | Lblock |
| Harvey Vale on 21:19 - Nov 7 by ChrisNW6 |
Harvey Vale seems to be the newest social media 'Boo Boy' alongside Varane.
Vale has been fit and available most of the season. He is pretty versatile when asked to play in different positions. When we have an injury hit squad, not sure why he is getting singled out so much (a bit on here, but far worse on the socials). I know he's not impacting games as much we hoped he could with goals, but his contributions are pretty consistent with some nice link up when moving the ball forward. Some of which seems to go unnoticed, with some fans looking for negatives.
Varane grew into the game again today and was unlucky not to score. |
Vale has certainly been consistent, I’ll give you that!!!
10 out of 10 and credit to him for his availability
After that…. Nah, not for me Geoff
Said it numerous times, (boring tw@t that I am), he’ll razzle in a 25 yarder every now and then, maybe the odd slide rule pass every couple of games and that’ll be it.
He will never impose himself, is shy of the physical stuff, hides, jogs around, rarely protects his full back if playing wide and non existent in aerial duals.
Currently, he can’t even play a three yard pass and must surely only be starting as Chair being eased in, other players not fancied by the Manager or he’s very good at washing French cars.
I really hope Chair emerges fit n firing the other side of this international break
He’s just what we need right now and I’d hope Kone benefits and keeps his current run going off the back of service for Yass |  |
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| Harvey Vale on 00:12 - Nov 8 with 0 views | robith |
| Harvey Vale on 21:19 - Nov 7 by ChrisNW6 |
Harvey Vale seems to be the newest social media 'Boo Boy' alongside Varane.
Vale has been fit and available most of the season. He is pretty versatile when asked to play in different positions. When we have an injury hit squad, not sure why he is getting singled out so much (a bit on here, but far worse on the socials). I know he's not impacting games as much we hoped he could with goals, but his contributions are pretty consistent with some nice link up when moving the ball forward. Some of which seems to go unnoticed, with some fans looking for negatives.
Varane grew into the game again today and was unlucky not to score. |
I'm sorry, I'm usually the happiest of clappers but Vale was abysmal today, and Varane at fault twice for their goal - first for the awful leave, then fair play he catches the guy and...bounces off him. He has to bring him down.
The frustrating thing win Varane is he's mostly pretty good, but his errors are often catastrophic |  | | |
| Harvey Vale on 00:58 - Nov 8 with 0 views | Boston |
I think he'd do far better with a proper barber. | |
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| Harvey Vale on 06:43 - Nov 8 with 0 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
Going to stick up for Vale.
The young lad is clearly out of form and desperately trying to make things happen by forcing passes when easier options are available. He needs a spell out of the side to get his confidence back.
Hopefully with Saito, Chair, Dambele and Madsen all back fit after the break he can take a breather and ease back into form.
As for Varane. Hes not technically good enough to be able to play in this side. Just a French version of Sam Field. | |
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| Harvey Vale on 06:48 - Nov 8 with 0 views | HammersmithR |
I don’t mind Vale. When everyone is fit he probably won’t start. But we need squad players. He covers lots of positions including left back. Yes, he can be a bit more physical, but technically he is sound. He has a nice left foot and creates a few chances. Likes of him and Poku do have up to have their games with assists and goals. Vale is definitely better at corners than Chair. Chair comes back and the corner goes straight to the near post. | | | |
| Harvey Vale on 08:53 - Nov 8 with 0 views | Watford_Ranger |
He’s badly off form for sure and yesterday was a big chance in the ‘10’ against a poor team where we’d have lots of the ball. But I don’t see a lack of effort. Think he could have done with not spending two weeks sitting on Ireland’s bench but a change of scene will probably do him good.
Varane, I think I was critical enough after Southampton to not bother again. | | | |
| Harvey Vale on 09:42 - Nov 8 with 0 views | gazza1 |
I fail to see why the manager, & is one of my serious critisms of JS, continually selects Vale to start match after match. I have not checked but I would suggest that he has started more matches other than senior outfield players (Dunn, Edwards type) which I find absolutely amazing considering the impact that he has made in matches this season. He is without doubt the 'Teachers (JS) pet' & , hence, why he plays & starts nearly every match despite being a very limited footballer at this level & despite playing pretty poorly the last 3 matches & generally over this season.
Posters who suggest that he is 'off form' or is 'doing OK' need to look a lot closer at Vale during the matches ......... he is not good enough & I would suggesr he never will be if we have asperations of getting back into the Premiership. | | | |
| Harvey Vale on 10:50 - Nov 8 with 0 views | Steiner |
| Harvey Vale on 09:42 - Nov 8 by gazza1 |
I fail to see why the manager, & is one of my serious critisms of JS, continually selects Vale to start match after match. I have not checked but I would suggest that he has started more matches other than senior outfield players (Dunn, Edwards type) which I find absolutely amazing considering the impact that he has made in matches this season. He is without doubt the 'Teachers (JS) pet' & , hence, why he plays & starts nearly every match despite being a very limited footballer at this level & despite playing pretty poorly the last 3 matches & generally over this season.
Posters who suggest that he is 'off form' or is 'doing OK' need to look a lot closer at Vale during the matches ......... he is not good enough & I would suggesr he never will be if we have asperations of getting back into the Premiership. |
I suspect it's because he's one of the few players in the squad currently capable of putting in ~200 minutes during a three game week without having some part of him catastrophically snap in half.
Being constantly available but mediocre is more useful to a team repeating drilled patterns of play than being good but never available (JCS). | | | |
| Harvey Vale on 11:17 - Nov 8 with 0 views | StreathamRanger |
| Harvey Vale on 10:50 - Nov 8 by Steiner |
I suspect it's because he's one of the few players in the squad currently capable of putting in ~200 minutes during a three game week without having some part of him catastrophically snap in half.
Being constantly available but mediocre is more useful to a team repeating drilled patterns of play than being good but never available (JCS). |
I wonder if people are a bit less patient with Vale because he came from Chelsea. He's hot and cold but as TK1 pointed out on another thread, he's younger than Adamson and Lloyd and playing in a much more demanding position. There's definitely a quality player in there. Injuries have given him more minutes than he maybe should have but it won't do his development any harm. I'm not writing him off just yet. At some point we need to start selling some players for decent money. He may need to step up if we get a good offer for Madsen for example. | | | |
| Harvey Vale on 11:26 - Nov 8 with 0 views | 7374Ranger |
| Harvey Vale on 00:12 - Nov 8 by robith |
I'm sorry, I'm usually the happiest of clappers but Vale was abysmal today, and Varane at fault twice for their goal - first for the awful leave, then fair play he catches the guy and...bounces off him. He has to bring him down.
The frustrating thing win Varane is he's mostly pretty good, but his errors are often catastrophic |
I also thought Varane should have fouled the player in the centre circle to halt the attack.
As for Vale, once again he was poor. His passes , and header that missed the target by a mile and much of his play this season has been disappointing.
He is only playing so often due to inuries , primarily to Madsen and Chair and his availability and willingness to cover different positions is for me the only positive about Vale. | | | |
| Harvey Vale on 12:09 - Nov 8 with 0 views | connell10 |
He is a very frustrating player to watch , moments of good play then absolutely nothing . I think there is a player there , but he has gotta be consistent and as others have he is still young ! So im not writing him off just yet. |  |
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| Harvey Vale on 17:22 - Nov 8 with 0 views | VancouverHoop |
| Harvey Vale on 12:09 - Nov 8 by connell10 |
He is a very frustrating player to watch , moments of good play then absolutely nothing . I think there is a player there , but he has gotta be consistent and as others have he is still young ! So im not writing him off just yet. |
Arguably 23 isn't particularly young in today's footballing world, though midfielders take a little younger to blossom, they need more playing minutes to mature. Vale's erratic, but shows glimpses of what he might become. The clock's ticking however. | | | |
| Harvey Vale on 17:28 - Nov 8 with 0 views | LazyFan |
JS plays Vale as he has a few goals and JS always wants goals in the team.
His best position is No 10, but we have plenty of those players. And his passing has got worse, gives the ball away too much.
When Chair is fit, Vale would not make the team. And if Madsen starts coming back, Varane on the bench again. Varane could move in Jan at this rate, as I would prefer Morgan.
JCS, Burell, Madsen and Chair all to return to the team. That's a stronger spine coming back in; meanwhile, Kone is hitting form. The LB position has compo. We only need Lampty to get fit (don't all laugh at once) and we may finish 9th after all ;P |  |
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| Harvey Vale on 21:25 - Nov 8 with 0 views | Myke |
Vale’s main assets are his availability and versatility. He has moments of class and moments when he looks like he never saw a football before. A useful squad player when all are fit (which means he plays a lot) | | | |
| Harvey Vale on 07:06 - Nov 9 with 0 views | cyprusmel |
A impartial view on Harvey Vale performances comes from the BBC's markings where the last 4 matches have seen him bottom 3 times and second from bottom once.
Frustrating player, can do something special in a game but then seems to fade away. | | | |
| Harvey Vale on 07:16 - Nov 9 with 0 views | gazza1 |
| Harvey Vale on 21:25 - Nov 8 by Myke |
Vale’s main assets are his availability and versatility. He has moments of class and moments when he looks like he never saw a football before. A useful squad player when all are fit (which means he plays a lot) |
Yea, his availbility is good but why wouldn't it be?? He rarely gets involved in 'big tackles', he does not work that hard, turns his back when in a heading duel, etc, etc. Versatality, he can play wide or centre midfield, not very well consistently!!! Not sure what you mean by a 'useful squad player'?? | | | |
| Harvey Vale on 07:48 - Nov 9 with 0 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
I think he's been awful this season but feel a bit sorry for him as he's played more than he would have because of injuries. Out of form and playing all the time: not a good combination. | | | |
| Harvey Vale on 07:50 - Nov 9 with 0 views | JezHoops |
| Harvey Vale on 07:06 - Nov 9 by cyprusmel |
A impartial view on Harvey Vale performances comes from the BBC's markings where the last 4 matches have seen him bottom 3 times and second from bottom once.
Frustrating player, can do something special in a game but then seems to fade away. |
I thought the BBC markings were done by fans.
The small print below the scores reads:
“the score displayed represents the average from all the submissions by BBC Sport users.” | | | |
| Harvey Vale (n/t) on 08:06 - Nov 9 with 0 views | gazza1 |
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| Harvey Vale on 08:08 - Nov 9 with 0 views | gazza1 |
| Harvey Vale on 07:48 - Nov 9 by Wegerles_Stairs |
I think he's been awful this season but feel a bit sorry for him as he's played more than he would have because of injuries. Out of form and playing all the time: not a good combination. |
The manager (JS), who picks him every week, obviously does not think he is playing poorly otherwise he would not pick him to start even when there are options available.......no need to feel sorry for him!!!! [Post edited 9 Nov 8:09]
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